24 year old, 3 years of trying to quit, older, wiser, but still relapsing

Daniel123

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Hello everyone

My name is Daniel, im 24 years old and im from the UK. I started watching porn when i was about 13/14. Quickly escalated through different genre, elaborate story lines, humiliation, all before the age of 18, the legal age of adulthood. PIED with my first girlfriend made insecure, angry, anxious and depressed. 3 years ago i came across the website yourbrainonporn.com, and suddenly it all made sense. The solution seemed simple, at least at the time. I kept a diary sporadically, looking back over it now i have mixed feelings. I managed to have sex successfully after a long long time, which is a win. But i still relapse, masturbate, and have low libido as a result, which is a fail. But mainly, it makes me feel upset how naive i seemed when i was writing it, and being reminded of how much anger and scorn i poured on myself every time i relapsed. But it wasn't my fault. And it makes me feel even worse to think that lots of other young guys (and girls?) are doing the same. The expectation we place in society on the individual to take responsibility for their problems, pull themselves up by the bootstraps, keep a stiff upper lip or any other individualistic platitude is, in my opinion, wrong and harmful. Climate disaster, war, consumerism, inequality, mental health disorders, suicide, and of course, porn addiction are all to greater or lesser extents caused or exacerbated by that narrative. Let me know what you think about that. Also my diary is posted below. Thanks, Daniel.

Start date: 4/09/12

9/9/12- Decided to start a little diary about this, just as a way to keep track of time and try and keep motivation. So far so good?

14/9/12- 10 days in, starting to feel a bit shitty. My penis looks smaller than usual, which is worrying but apparently quite common during the flatline phase. Been sleeping a lot the last week or so (10 hours a night, sometimes 11), find it difficult to drag myself out of bed. Generally low mood overall. Have to go back to uni to take a Spanish exam next week, then moving back to uni permanently a few days after. Not sure how the move is going to affect the reboot, hopefully it will precipitate more socialising and more chances to engage with real girls, however I also suspect that after the initial excitement things will slow down and things will get boring and depressing, not helping with the lows and increasing temptations to watch porn. Think its going to be important to get into a good exercise routine early on, and make a good start with classes. Will write some more next week

30/9/12- 3 1/2 Weeks now since I started, coming up to the one month point. After initially feeling really good about the whole process, finding myself doubting its effectiveness, not sure if it?s the actual root of my problems etc.., or alternating between that and thinking it will fix everything in my life, which it wont I know but still feels like I?m putting unrealistic expectations on the results. General feeling/mood at the moment is stable, not incredibly low but not great. However, since returning to uni have joined the waterpolo team, a sport I used to play a lot of in school and is pretty hard work, and made all but one of my classes in the first week of teaching, so laying the foundations for a good year (at least better than my first three years). Still feels like im sleeping too much (a problem which I often have when I don?t feel busy during the days, or feel like im lacking motivation). Goals for the next couple of weeks: continue with good attendance and waterpolo training, join a gym (ignore excuse of not being able to fit it into budget) and set up a couple of language tandems with Spanish Erasmus students to improve language fluency and general benefits of socializing. Not felt massively tempted to return to porn (although had a couple of dreams about watching porn which I guess is quite common at least at the start of the reboot), apart from the other day when I was at the library, and I went to the toilet and felt pretty tempted to look at some porn on my phone and have a wank. Passed quickly though, thinking maybe I should disable internet on my phone. Drank to excess on Friday night(2 nights ago), felt awful the following day, but another general aim is to reduce the amount of alcohol I drink during a night out, especially shots and jaeger bombs (red bull makes me feel horrible the next day). At the end of the day, just have to keep reminding myself that at the very least I need to cut out all P, M, O for 3 months, then see where I am. Even if a year passes and im still at square one, its worth persevering with to see what happens, and the positive accounts ive read from other guys on the site has given me hope that it is worth sticking with. Will try and write more regularly just to keep a track on my thoughts and feelings as the brain rewires itself (also bought Norman Doidge- the brain that changes itself- aside from its personal relevance very interesting stuff).

01/10/12- Had a small relapse today. Didn?t orgasm, but looked at some porn. Going to up the security level of k-9 to make sure its harder to find online, but may have to consider getting rid of laptop if this is really going to work. Feel disappointed in myself, but got to keep going

03/10/12- Feeling quite shit today. Went out last night, got really drunk and made a bit of a fool of myself. Missed my class today as well. Been really tempted to watch some porn and have a wank, can really see at the moment how its ?addictiveness? in the sense that you use it as a quick pick me up when you feel shit. When I woke up all I wanted to do was stay in my room all day and watch porn, felt quite lonely and thought to myself that it would be nice to have a girl to be with. However, I don?t want to let myself slip into a pattern of feeling sorry for myself, so I eventually made up an excuse to myself to go to the shops, just to go for a bit of a walk more than anything else. That woke me up a little bit, but still feel in a solitary kind of mood.
Going to go to water polo training tonight, despite feeling shit and hung over, just so that I can say I did something half way constructive today. Joined a gym yesterday, so going to try and get back into that, along with some swimming, which should help with water polo as well. Im also thinking about implementing the Paleo diet (something I read about from ybop as well), just to try it for a month or so and see if it has any effect in terms of reducing lethargy/losing weight. But ive said these kind of things to myself in the past and never really followed through with them? Also want to make sure I SIGN UP FOR PORTUGUESE LESSONS.

05/10/12- Feeling extremely horny at the moment, its come on full force after the first few weeks of little craving. Browsed some porn on facebook, so have had to add that to the blocked list on k-9. Am thinking I may have to go down to the blackberry shop and get internet removed on that as well. Just as I thought being at uni, the novelty of coming back has worn off, now there are a lot of long days/nights at home with nothing to do, and these are the times when the craving strikes. REMEMBER THAT EVERY TIME YOU LOOK AT IMAGES IT SLOWS DOWN THE REBOOT!!! Don?t forget this.

07/10/12- After a relatively easy first month, cravings have started coming on in a big way. Gonna have to delete internet use on my phone I think, otherwise its just too tempting. Don?t really know how to describe the feelings of craving. It?s like feeling really really horny, but only in your mind, without much going on at a penis level. Don?t really know what?s happening there, must be something to do with my brain craving dopamine or whatever the science is behind this kind of addiction, and I remember reading that people often confuse this craving for real libido, so gonna leave a note to myself: THIS IS NOT LIBIDO RETURNING. THIS IS CRAVING FOR PORN! Have to go with absolutely no artificial stimulation WHATSOEVER for at least 3 months, probably more, and then it will be a case of seeking out real women to readjust to the real thing. PS looking back over this diary so far I realise ive lapsed into general self analysis and whinging about my general life, so from here on im gonna try and keep it specifically relevant to porn abstinence and the reboot/rewiring process so others can hopefully take something from my experiences.

08/10/12- relapse. I know it?s an excuse, but I cant get rid of browsing capability on my blackberry. This is going to take longer than I had hoped. Feel low now, need to find a way to get rid of the internet on my blackberry

17/10/12- The relapse 10 days ago or so really brought into perspective for me just how strong of an addiction this is. It?s hard to believe I was pretty much oblivious to this for so long. I was completely taken by surprise at just how strongly and suddenly the cravings came on. I guess I didn?t really take the whole process seriously enough, but now I know how strong of a foothold it has in my brain I know its going to take much more effort than I thought. Internet on blackberry is now completely gone. Have removed from my access all the passwords to k9. Decided not to block youtube, as the benefits of having it (locked permanently on safemode) outweigh the negatives (hopefully I wont live to regret that decision). Perhaps now is a good time to set down in writing the reasons why this is so important to me:
1- REAL WOMEN generally, but f. specifically. She is going to visit London next summer, and I really like her, so she is a very real reason to stick with this for as long as it takes.
2- TO FINALLY BE RID OF MY ANXIETY. Along with some other issues (lack of career plans, failure to exercise regularly, regular drug use (now stopped) etc), im now certain that this porn addiction (still feels weird calling it that) was at or around the centre of all of that anxiety stuff over the last year and a bit. I feel like seeing through this reboot and reengaging sexually and intimately with real women will be a crucial step in finally being rid of all the self doubt.
3- CONFIDENCE. It feels like since the failure of my relationship with s. almost 5 years ago I haven?t had the confidence I used to have. The fact that I?m doubting whether I ever had confidence shows just how much this whole mess has gotten under my skin.
4- LEARNING SELF-DISCIPLINE. Discipline is something I feel like ive lost since coming to university (or maybe I never learnt it). Either way, I want to get it. I think that doing this and reaping successful results will hammer home the idea that you build and mould yourself by habit, and you have to persevere if you want to see a lasting change and improvement. Important life skill.
Ill come back and add to this list if I think of anything else.

19/10/12- did some mephedrone last night. Not loads, but still I said I wouldn?t do drugs again. Not sure how it relates to the reboot, but gonna make sure it was just a once off

09/11/12- Ok, passed the 2 month mark a few days ago. Occasionally waking up with morning wood, had a few sex dreams but otherwise hard to see any real progress, mainly because I haven?t tried myself out yet with a girl. I think New Years would be a good aim for the reboot, once ive hit that target it will be about 4months of no(at least greatly limited) PMO, then would be a good time to start rewiring to real sex. Meanwhile: keep up waterpolo, get gym going again, healthy diet, get back into the swing of classes, NO DRUGS WHATSOEVER, try to be more positive about things and practice mindfulness exercises. All in all, not going as well as I had hoped, but could definitely be a lot worse. Cautiously optimistic?


13/11/12- Two more ?relapses? in the last two days. The relapses seem to happen after about a month of good progress. I think the reason for this is a mixture of: feeling overly confident about progress, 2- feeling out in the middle of nowhere so to speak, meaning far enough from the start that I lose sight of the goal, and with no way to check progress I feel compelled to check everything is still ?working?. Things like getting it up to measure and make sure it hasn?t gotten any smaller, seeing if I still can get it up etc. I think this lead to the relapses (relatively little time looking at actual porn, so better than first relapse, but still disappointed). The approach now has to be no tolerance- if it isn?t a real girl, then avoid it. In order to keep myself sharp, I want to write briefly on here every evening, both assessing how the day has gone, and writing things to achieve the next day. In this way I should be able to keep myself busy and remind myself to stay focused.

It is also worthwhile now to try and assess some improvements thus far as incentive not to relapse again: Anxiety seems to be greatly reduced compared with a few months ago. I was, until the relapses, starting to wake up with strong morning wood. Motivation to go to waterpolo training has lead to a place in the starting team. In terms of will power, although I did relapse, avoided giving up and succumbing to a binge- strengthening will power/diminishing desire to look at porn.

DUST OFF AND KEEP GOING- it is worth sticking with and doing PROPERLY because the results are so worthwhile!!!

03/12/12- Another relapse today, that makes 4 times ive looked at porn in almost 3 months- I have to be honest, without those 4 relapses I think I would be much further in my progress. The truth is I think I was seeing some improvements, last night I was taking a piss and just out of nowhere touching my penis gave me a full rock hard erection literally in seconds. In terms of mood it has been up and down as expected, overall I feel better now than at the start of the reboot, but it feels hollow due to the relapses. But there is no point feeling sorry for myself- onwards and upwards, porn will always be available, so eventually im going to have to learn to just ignore it.

Assessment of this term- Stuck with waterpolo, played competitively, feel fitter and have lost some weight, so happy with that. Would like to start doing some weight lifting as well in the next week/next term. Drug use definitely down, 2 times taken mephedrone, but relatively little, once doing mdma for about 24hours, but felt really bad about that for the following 4 days or so, so think ive learnt my lesson there. Kept up tandem with bea, next term: JOIN ERASMUS SOCIETY. However, socially I haven?t improved much. After a good start in terms of attendance of classes, kind of tailed off around mid term, and might be in a bit of trouble over that, well see. Need to EXPOSE MYSELF TO FEAR INDUCING SCENARIOS TO IMPROVE CONFIDENCE. Relapses to porn im not happy with. Nervous in social situations (e.g. debating whether or not to go to waterpolo Christmas dinner). Haven?t gone out as much as I used to, but when I have I have gotten too drunk, was put in a choke hold by a bouncer for example, and haven?t really enjoyed myself in general. Been drinking a fair amount just at home which I would like to stop, or at least minimize.

Overall a mixed bag, if I get my Spanish essay done to a good standard before the end of term, I think I?ve done alright. The basis still has to remain exercise and abstinence from PMO, then ill build from there. But let?s get serious now. Absolutely no PMO until the new year, remember why you are doing this, its not just some fucking piece of uni work, its your LIFE so TAKE IT SERIOUSLY- denial and sacrifice now for benefits later. Be strong, you can do it.


22/12/12- Return home for the holidays and?relapse. Access to unfiltered internet on the family computer. I was seeing some progress up to this point- had my first ever wet dream, solid morning wood from time to time, lower anxiety levels and more confidence. Honestly, I feel really bad about this now, im disgusted at how many times I have relapsed knowing what I know now. Back to the drawing board once again.

08/02/13- It has been a while, after the relapses of the Christmas period I didn?t really feel like keeping up with this diary. However, I finally have some good news. I had my first successful orgasm with a girl. Its weird to be saying that now, im almost embarrassed to write it given that im 21 years old. But this process has been all about being honest with myself, and recognizing that some things were wrong and needed to be changed, and I think its fair to say that this was definitely one of them. But this is no time to be patting myself on the back. In the past it has always been around this time (one month or so of no PMO) that the relapses occur. I can?t afford to let the concentration slip now. I think it will be easier to avoid now though, having a girl that I can see fairly often, I can focus my attention on her instead of porn. Nonetheless, it is important to remain on guard at all times as I now move into uncharted territory. Keep the faith!

General improvements I?m noticing: anxiety level continues to decrease, no panic attacks, less fear that something bad is going to happen to me; sleep all round is better- no difficulty getting to sleep these days, waking up earlier, getting out of bed earlier etc.; confidence coming back (linked to exercise as well), more comfortable holding and sustaining conversations, feel like im making more jokes/laughing more, more confident with girls; drinking less and taking less drugs (NB its not that im against the use of drugs, in fact the opposite, I just don?t think it?s the right thing for ME to be doing, esp. at this point in my life).

Areas for concern/improvement: Classes- need to overcome social phobia of group classes/public speaking/general shyness; careers- need to start to apply for positions, research postgraduate options, look at study/work about opportunities; diet is starting to lapse a bit, got to keep disciplined with that.

Key goals for the next month: 1- GYM
2- DIET
3- CLASSES
4- CAREERS
5- DISSERTATION
6- become the daddy at spanish

03/12/13 (LONG BREAK)- Reading my last entry above, it is amazing to notice how much can change in 10 months. The positivity and optimism I can note in that entry is vastly different from my current mood. Having broken the back of this porn addiction and all associated problems (ED, contribution to anxiety, shame etc), begun a relationship and begun to put some real distance between myself and porn, I have gradually slid back down through relapse after relapse. I am perhaps for the first time realizing the power porn has over me, my own lack of willpower and determination, and the difficulty, not just of rebooting, but of a life of constant vigilance against relapse. Because what my slide back into porn use has shown me is that there will always be a part of my brain that remembers and wants to watch porn, and so it wont just be plain sailing after 3-4 months abstinence, as I naively expected when I first came across YBOP. In the face of this I feel lethargic and almost powerless, amazed at my own lack of willpower against porn use.

However I believe I must begin again, try to regain some momentum and some positive reinforcement in the process of rebooting and recovery. Funnily enough, porn now triggers quite serious anxiety and depression against myself, so its damned if I do damned if I don?t in a sense (withdrawl vs anxiety) If I can make access to porn absolutely impossible for a few months at least then I hope to regain some impetus. Additionally, I have started CBT for my anxiety, and with the discomfort and difficulty that will pose I could really do with getting back onto the right path with porn, and ultimately, relationships with girls as well. (PART 2 to follow)

 

Daniel123

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PART 2
It occurred to me today how often in my mind I am trying to think of ways to distract myself from reality: exercise, taking long walks, eating when not hungry, drinking and drug taking, and most damagingly of all porn. I am not saying all these things are bad in and of themselves, just that a lot of the time I ?use? them to distract myself from difficult thoughts or uncomfortable feelings, as a mood medicine or a distraction. I hope that meditation will provide some insight and some fortification against this tendency. However it is something to consider at greater length, as a constant desire to change and make better the way things are seems to underlie a lot of my unhealthy behaviour and mask something which I need to deal with.

09/12/13- I have pretty much made it impossible to access porn on my laptop or on the shared home computer. If I explained to any of my friends or family the lengths ive gone to to block myself from looking at porn they would think I was crazy. But I need to do this as I truly believe that eliminating porn will make a positive impact on my sex drive, erections, confidence and mood.

Now that I can say to myself porn is not an option, the issue becomes around constructing a productive, enjoyable and challenging day to keep myself busy, focused on rewiring the brain and shall I say ?re-integrating?. My CBT therapist was ill this week so I had to miss that session, annoying because the process feels to be moving slowly as it is on the NHS. However it is worthwhile noting what happened in my last session with her. I have been keeping a CBT diary for the last two weeks, noting times when I feel anxious, my thoughts at the time, feelings, physical sensations and behaviour. During last week?s session she read some of it back out loud to me and sort of pressed me for more detail, and the result was almost like an out of body experience where I got a more objective sight of my own distorted thoughts. It is now clear to me that my anxiety is more than just social, it encompasses some panic disorder and health anxiety too. Im sure that there is more to unravel (much of it no doubt related to porn and ED), but I just wanted to note the sense of revelation I experienced and that it suggests that perhaps I shouldn?t adopt the approach of keeping things to myself and dealing with it alone, as clearly I my assessment of myself can be misguided and distorted.

16/12/13- At the moment I have gone 10 days without porn, however I have masturbated twice using imagination only. The reason for this is to be less strict on myself with the hope of eliminating relapses/the desire to relapse with porn, which is the main problem. It is important to note at this point that, if im being honest, if I hadn?t made access to porn virtually impossible, I would have relapsed by now. I tried to hack into my Hotmail account yesterday to get a temporary k9 password, however fortunately this is not possible. I am concerned that I am over relying on the k9 program to do the willpower legwork for me.
28/12/13- I am currently about 22 days without looking at porn, however in an effort to reduce the desire to watch porn I have been masturbating about once every two days, which is too much and will slow down my recovery of normal sensitivity. However, the main thing is still to get rid of porn and that so far is happening (albeit mainly because I have made it impossible to access porn, without the blocks I have in place it must be said that I would have relapsed). Once I have successfully gone for a month or so without porn I will start to look towards reducing masturbation, around once per 7 days would be an acceptably low frequency. I have to make an effort to reinforce the rationale behind this to myself, which is this. If I imagine myself in the next potential sex scenario and I have been wanking with the regularity I have said above, I will not have the increased sensitivity of penis and of mind to respond properly and ejaculate (or even maintain erection). Case in point: when I bought R. back to my house, and I hadn?t been looking at porn but I had been masturbating regularly, and I therefore wasn?t as ?excited? as I otherwise would have been (alcohol consumption may also have played a part here). Essentially what im saying is without masturbation, the next sexual scenario I find myself in will have that much more added electricity and excitement. The alternative is to simply tell whoever the girl is when the time comes about this problem of mine and hope for an understanding approach. Perhaps I will just try to have sex and if for whatever reason (pressure, not long enough reboot, nerves) I don?t perform then I will just explain. Im also looking for some positive signs that the process is having some desired effect, which may be more evident with less regular masturbation. Looking back at earlier entries in this diary I was adamant then that the process works and I want to rediscover that faith in the rebooting/porn free lifestyle.

As an additional note I have started to smoke again after about 6 months of quitting. I cant be assed to berate myself about that as I sort of have enough on my plate with ybop and social anxiety, but I just want to make sure I keep it to a minimum if nothing else for the added erectile benefits not smoking will have on my ED problems. But otherwise I am in a better mood now that I was a month ago.

13/01/14- After a month and one week of not viewing porn, I had a relapse this morning. The problem is on the family computer, which was left logged in, and I was able to access porn via a proxy site. I need to get the passwords from mum?s house, get onto the computer and block proxy sites if I am to be certain of not having access again. However, after looking a porn and edging for a few minutes I was able to switch off the computer and not ejaculate while watching porn. I did however masturbate to orgasm an hour or so later, so im going to call it a full relapse. It is really pretty sad to be faced with my own lack of willpower with this- I know it is bad for my sex drive, and yet I cant seem to stop myself from relapsing when the opportunity arises. I cant help but wonder about what else will I never be fully able to stop myself from doing (drugs? Social anxiety? Smoking?). But I guess the only way to progress if I cant use will power is to make access to porn IMPOSSIBLE, Forever. Only then will I cut out the relapses, and only when I have got a girlfriend and I have rewired to sex with them will I see the results.

02/03/15 (ANOTHER LONG BREAK)- Well, it has been a while since I last wrote in this diary. 14 months since my last post, 2 years 5 months since I my first contact with yourbrainonporn.com and the realization of the effects of porn.

Since my last post a lot has happened. I am currently living in Barcelona working as an English teaching assistant. I held a job in London for 9 months earlier in 2014, but it was too boring/stressful for me so I decided to leave the country and travel (Barca is stop 1). I have also, at the ripe old age of 23, finally had successful sexual intercourse with a woman. This great feat has been repeated multiple times, as she was my girlfriend for 3 months, and the opportunity for sex was abundant. I must say as well that I confessed all of this stuff to her at the start of our relationship and she was really supportive about everything, which completely took the pressure off and allowed me to experiment and practice regaining natural feeling. I owe her so much for her response.
We recently broke up, but that doesn?t diminish the fact that, 2 and a bit years ago there were dark moments when I seriously thought this might never be possible for me, so let?s give thanks and credit where it?s due. It was an immensely difficult journey, more difficult than I would ever have guessed it could be when I was 15 and happily wanking away to internet porn without a care in the world, oblivious to what I was doing to myself. It keeps me awake at night to think about the thousands/millions of defenceless kids out there in the world falling into the same trap. But anyway, I did what I set out to do so that?s something to be proud of.

But it is not all good news. Sexual performance with my ex was sporadic and patchy at best. There were times when it was great, I was 100% rock solid and really in the moment and turned on, but the majority of times I was slightly less than that, not completely into it, and it took an uncomfortably long time for me to finish (often not aided by alcohol consumption I must add). And then there were times when I couldn?t get it up. Maybe it was because I wasn?t completely into S., but there is clearly still some way to go to ?complete? recovery (if there is such a thing). I broke up with S. because of my apathy towards her, and I didn?t think it would be fair to keep with her as a sexual guinea pig, the idea didn?t turn me on too much. To make matters worse, I relapsed into PMO yesterday. So clearly the drive to watch porn is still lying latent in my brain, just waiting for the chance to run riot on unrestricted internet.

To be honest I am angry. Looking back at the posts I made earlier in the diary I can see that in the past that anger was turned towards myself. I now am starting to look for other more deserving targets. For starters, the previous generation?s complete failure to foresee these effects on their children from unrestricted internet access. The complete obliviousness of government, schools, parents and guardians is unforgiveable, and I have no doubt in the near future we will look back at them with incredulity for their neglect (and Im not just talking about porn- geopolitics, the environment, the food systems and animal rights to name a few things off the top of my head). While they were all getting their little sphincters in a twist about smoking weed, not paying train tickets, skipping classes and not doing homework they completely let the real dangers slip past them unaddressed, for us to face, unaware and unprotected. Children under 21 years of age are not at a cerebrally developed enough stage to defend themselves against the pervasive and transformative effects of technology and media, so the whole free speech pornography defence is a load of shit. How is a 14 year old kid going to know which negative influences should be resisted when his brain is not even fully formed and his sense of self is still developing? The same goes for a lot of other things as well: television, advertising, fast food and the school system. The developing mind is offered no protection during its critical formative phases, and for the vast majority of kids, the rights types of stimulation are not offered at the right times. Why force children to sit (mainly in imposed silence) through 10 or so years of maths and science classes when they will more than likely end up never using that stuff again? Its wasteful at best, mentally crippling at worst. Successful people in all fields of life do so in spite of, not because of, the systems and structures we have for young people. I also have to question a society that would turn something as private and emotional as sex into a profitable spectacle, profiteering from a faultly primitive brain mechanism that can lead people to addiction. You can add to that almost all processed foods, gambling industry, cigarettes and alcohol. Also where are these porn actresses coming from? Are they doing it out of desperation, or addiction to drugs, or are they doing it willingly, enjoying it? I don?t know which would be worse, but clearly something is going wrong during their childhood critical phases which leads them to this scenario just as it did for me. Pornography and porn addiction is another ugly symptom of a sick society.

I don?t know if I will ever post this on the internet, but nonetheless, if you are reading and you have just started, keeping trying, no matter how many times you relapse, and don?t beat yourself up because it?s not your fault you are in this position. You didn?t know what you were signing up for. We will be fighting against this addiction until the systems and technologies that be are drastically changed, and that might be some time.
 
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CrazyFrog357

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So how are you doing at the moment?
I don't think masturbation during the reboot phase is a good idea - at all. It always leads back there eventually, and I'm pretty sure it just drags the whole thing out either way.
And this isn't about your will power alone (in reference to the bit where you talk about using K9 as a crutch) - combating addiction is, often enough, about admitting you don't have the strength to overcome the problem on your own, and looking for help.
This isn't a test for your discipline, it's all about the process of recovery.
Good luck man, you can do it!
 

Daniel123

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Hi

Thanks for the comment. Currently at 9 days on the reboot, its going alright so far apart from feeling a bit lethargic and tired. I think you;re right and also something which i forgot to mention which can be overlooked is the need to replace bad habits with good ones, and to get involved in healthy activities, find and pursue interests and most importantly get out there and meet girls and start to get used to the real thing instead of computer and hand. Actually, i think that's what i have failed to do in the past, and its the harder part of recovery because it requires positive habit formation on top of abstinence and restraint from porn. I like the good feeling of going to the gym and stuff like that, but after a while it gets a bit boring and i stop doing it. A good cause to dedicate yourself to would solve a lot!
 
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CrazyFrog357

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Yeah man. Don't be too hard on yourself if it doesn't all go your way immediately though.
I've got a good gym routine going NOW, been going regularly for half a year and hardly miss a gym day, but that's after 3 years of going on and off, struggling to keep up my will power.
At some point I realised it wasn't about motivation at all, just about GOING. Now, I listen to the little voice in my head presenting arguments for why I shouldn't go (tired, headache, bad weather, go tomorrow etc) and then I just ignore it and go anyway, whether I feel like it or not. It's simply become a fact for me that on gym days, I go to the gym, no matter what.
And that doesn't just apply to the gym, it applies to a lot of stuff.
If you don't manage to turn your life around in the amount of time you'd hoped for, don't lose hope. Keep trying. That's what it's all about.
 
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