Do fantasies slow down progress?

I'm on day 52 of hardmode, but I stopped P even 60 days before that because had a girlfriend then. I don't really have cravings for P, but my libido is also no existent, I'm probably flatlining(lots of depression synthoms also). I neither have morning wood for ages.
There is a minimal progress that I notice, sometimes at night I fantasize in my head about somebody, and I get hard jut by thinking(maybe 60%). Would you recommend to try to stop fantasies, will they slow down recovery? Maybe I can control them.
 

ilovemyhand

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Definitely DON'T do any porn like fantasies. After you feel like you have enough control you may start using your imagination with the intention of rewiring; imagining soft kissing, touching and making love (NOT fucking!!) with a former GF or a realistic, potential partner. Be aware though, that as presumed a porn addict you've probably got a weakness for sexual novelty and kinks - therefore pay close attention that you don't start escalating in your fantasies as that is a slippery slope to porn like fantasies.

Here's a short quote from Wilsons book YBOP that is relevant to your question: "Most people report that avoiding fantasy early in a reboot is very helpful - including during sex with a partner - because avoidance actually reduces cravings. However, if someone has little sexual experience, it may eventually be helpful to engage in realistic fantasy about real potential partners in order to help rewire the brain to real people (instead of screens). After all, humans have been engaging in sexual fantasy for eons." - YBOP book, chapter Fantasising, page 162

Remember, people who were successful with this recommend that you do it when you notice that you've already started recovering and that you should be very careful of keeping the fantasy realistic - if you don't have any real sexual experience that might be impossible for you. Also, this would be done with the purpose of rewiring and NOT pleasure (this kind of exercises won't and shouldn't be as "intense" as porn fantasies)!
 

CrowMagnum

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Hey mylaststand, I agree with the sentiment of ilovemyhand (great name, btw) and Numez.  Fantasy is counterproductive at the least and has the potential to be relapse inducing.  It stimulates and feeds the pathways that porn has created.  It provides nourishment to the pathways you are trying to weaken and ultimately eradicate.  It increases cravings. 

Maybe I can control them.

Maybe you can, maybe you can't.  Maybe you can control your porn consumption, maybe you can't.  Being able to control something doesn't make it beneficial, necessarily.  Do you want to recover?  Do you want to have the best handle on this thing as possible?  If so, going without fantasy will make you more successful.  You will feel less cravings and more at-ease sooner.  If you still want to be the slave of a soul sucking, ultimately unfulfilling activity deep down you probably will still want to partake in fantasy.  If you still want to, I urge you to think long and hard about why and come back here to this post and explain why.  Not to justify it, but to be honest and open about your motives.  I'm not about to judge you.  I've been down a similar road, and so have many others on here.  Most (if not all) of us fantasized and used it as a crutch at the start of our reboots and justified it in various ways.  Questions you ought to ask yourself are, "Do my thoughts and actions align with my goals, of what I truly want for myself?  If not, why am I doing this?  How does it benefit me?" Usually the answer to the last question is that it's a quick escape from the shittiness (numbness, depression, anxiety, non-idealness, etc.) of your current reality.  Problem is, in the long run you're just as-- if not more-- miserable.

All that said, great job of being on day 52 of hardmode.  Stay strong, maintain your resolve.  I'll check back on this post the next few days to see if you wrote something.

Regards,
Crow
 
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