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BlueHeronFan said:Hey, man, whatever works for you.
Baby steps can be a big deal! It's all a process of finding what works and getting better a day at a time.
Small steps still move you forward.
BlueHeronFan said:Hey, man, whatever works for you.
Baby steps can be a big deal! It's all a process of finding what works and getting better a day at a time.
This might turn out to be the initial minor slip that eventually builds up into a landslide. Decided to keep track of my addiction a little bit more.nazonoxa said:I feel very much out of the woods in terms of my addiction.
BlueHeronFan said:Good idea keeping track of the addiction a little more consistently. 60 days is great progress, but I read once that "strong" recovery doesn't really happen until after two years. Even then, I would hesitate to say I was out of the woods.
Out of the woods but still moving forwards. Can't wait to see for myself what that feels like.Lero said:Noah Church said in one of his podcasts that after a year and two months without P, he felt like he was still improving. So maybe that's right. Maybe "full" recovery takes 2 years but people should not get alarmed about it because you should already feel all right by then.
nazonoxa said:Finding out that I tend to think in a 0-or-100 way. Same thing with addiction, I am cured or I am addicted.
Lero said:Noah Church said in one of his podcasts that after a year and two months without P, he felt like he was still improving. So maybe that's right. Maybe "full" recovery takes 2 years but people should not get alarmed about it because you should already feel all right by then.
nazonoxa said:Finding out that I tend to think in a 0-or-100 way. Same thing with addiction, I am cured or I am addicted.
Which is simply not true. My recovery from addiction seems to be cycling through different phases, each time getting milder and milder.
Thank you for your kindness. Somebody (of course, including myself) being kind about my little bits of progress can be radically restorative.Lero said:I know exactly what you're talking about. I used to be a "black or white" guy until I realized that it sabotaged my recovery. We make progress even if it's a little. Anything is progress, even something like identifying a trigger or a mistake that we make. This recovery takes time so it's obvious that we need to go through some stages.
Thank you!BlueHeronFan said:And I think this is a great insight related to Lero's. I sincerely hope that I can be 100% cured someday, but I also don't know if I should ever believe that I am. Even if I'm 99% of the way there, believing that there's still a 1% of losing it would help me to stay careful. I know I crashed hard in the past when I thought I was cured. (and now I'm probably just rambling)
Either way, keep up the good work!
nazonoxa said:"My body is like a once broken china; no matter how carefully you glue it together, it is nothing like a china that was never broken."
Yes! And a rather beautiful one, with some painstaking Kintsugi. I totally left out any optimism from that quote, so thank you for pointing it outLero said:That's an awesome way to look at it. But even if the china will never be the same, it will still be a complete china and not some broken pieces.
nazonoxa said:Yes! And a rather beautiful one, with some painstaking Kintsugi. I totally left out any optimism from that quote, so thank you for pointing it outLero said:That's an awesome way to look at it. But even if the china will never be the same, it will still be a complete china and not some broken pieces.
That sounds about right. Good idea me. Let's not get ahead of myself.nazonoxa said:I should decide what I need to / don't need to do now. In this month of June...
I need to : Eat well, exercise, spend time in nature, sleep well. Keep seeing the psychiatrist + ASD/ADD group. Keep track of spending.
I don't need to : Work, study, look for work, think about studying.
nazonoxa said:That sounds about right. Good idea me. Let's not get ahead of myself.nazonoxa said:I should decide what I need to / don't need to do now. In this month of June...
I need to : Eat well, exercise, spend time in nature, sleep well. Keep seeing the psychiatrist + ASD/ADD group. Keep track of spending.
I don't need to : Work, study, look for work, think about studying.
I think you are right. One slow step at a time. Thank you!BlueHeronFan said:Any change we make toward recovery will take time to really make a difference.