Hopefully the end is in sight....and the beginning too

mattdes

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Another day and although no morning wood today I also have no urges to look at p. No urges no cravings no desires. It's dead to me. Living breathing women are all I crave. No pixels. Again I must repeat that I've been here before only to relapse. It feels a bit different this time though. Maybe I did hit my rock bottom with my latest failed encounter. Good!!! It's going to lead to me being tougher on myself.
In the gym today for a hard session. It definitely cleared my head. I ate a salad . Turkey breast avocado celery and spinach with some olive oil and balsamic vinegar. I'm leaving nothing out here. This is a complete renovation of my mind body and soul and I think that's important. Replace the bad habits with the good. Lot's of people seem to be sitting back and waiting for the urges. That's not the right way to do it. Get out walking. Go to the supermarket. Go to the park . Take a course. All these things add up. The less time your mind is idle the better. I'll do some meditation and stretching later and I'll sleep soundly. Good luck everybody. I hope you all get through another day!
 
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Lero

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mattdes said:
Another day and although no morning wood today I also have no urges to look at p. No urges no cravings no desires. It's dead to me. Living breathing women are all I crave. No pixels. Again I must repeat that I've been here before only to relapse. It feels a bit different this time though. Maybe I did hit my rock bottom with my latest failed encounter. Good!!! It's going to lead to me being tougher on myself.
In the gym today for a hard session. It definitely cleared my head. I ate a salad . Turkey breast avocado celery and spinach with some olive oil and balsamic vinegar. I'm leaving nothing out here. This is a complete renovation of my mind body and soul and I think that's important. Replace the bad habits with the good. Lot's of people seem to be sitting back and waiting for the urges. That's not the right way to do it. Get out walking. Go to the supermarket. Go to the park . Take a course. All these things add up. The less time your mind is idle the better. I'll do some meditation and stretching later and I'll sleep soundly. Good luck everybody. I hope you all get through another day!

You know, I've been through brutal days so far in my 32 days streak. One thing I've learned is that I can do more than I think I can. I mean, there have been days when I was this close to relapse. One inch away but I didn't. Then I woke up today and I said: "You know what? There is nothing that could make me relapse now. The hardest fucking thing ever couldn't make me relapse. Only if I am stupid and relapse on my own but the addiction tried to make me relapse and it couldn't." The mindset is important. Be stubborn like a motherfucker. Say "No" over and over again.
 

mattdes

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Lero said:
mattdes said:
Another day and although no morning wood today I also have no urges to look at p. No urges no cravings no desires. It's dead to me. Living breathing women are all I crave. No pixels. Again I must repeat that I've been here before only to relapse. It feels a bit different this time though. Maybe I did hit my rock bottom with my latest failed encounter. Good!!! It's going to lead to me being tougher on myself.
In the gym today for a hard session. It definitely cleared my head. I ate a salad . Turkey breast avocado celery and spinach with some olive oil and balsamic vinegar. I'm leaving nothing out here. This is a complete renovation of my mind body and soul and I think that's important. Replace the bad habits with the good. Lot's of people seem to be sitting back and waiting for the urges. That's not the right way to do it. Get out walking. Go to the supermarket. Go to the park . Take a course. All these things add up. The less time your mind is idle the better. I'll do some meditation and stretching later and I'll sleep soundly. Good luck everybody. I hope you all get through another day!

You know, I've been through brutal days so far in my 32 days streak. One thing I've learned is that I can do more than I think I can. I mean, there have been days when I was this close to relapse. One inch away but I didn't. Then I woke up today and I said: "You know what? There is nothing that could make me relapse now. The hardest fucking thing ever couldn't make me relapse. Only if I am stupid and relapse on my own but the addiction tried to make me relapse and it couldn't." The mindset is important. Be stubborn like a motherfucker. Say "No" over and over again.


That's it!! Exactly. And concentrating on days too. Why bother? This is for life. Bye bye porn and masturbation. Hello ladies!!! Haha. Thanks for the input Lero. Hope you are doing well.
 
mattdes said:
That's it!! Exactly. And concentrating on days too. Why bother? This is for life. Bye bye porn and masturbation. Hello ladies!!! Haha. Thanks for the input Lero. Hope you are doing well.

I agree 100% Matt man, but that is what makes this so hard to achieve - the finality of it all; that your go-to release will cease to exist and you will have to find another positive, more difficult to achieve, outlet for it all.

Like being a caveman who's gotten so used to eating Mickey Ds and suddenly has to go out and remember how to hunt his own meat :p
 

mattdes

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The Unhappy Fapper said:
mattdes said:
That's it!! Exactly. And concentrating on days too. Why bother? This is for life. Bye bye porn and masturbation. Hello ladies!!! Haha. Thanks for the input Lero. Hope you are doing well.

I agree 100% Matt man, but that is what makes this so hard to achieve - the finality of it all; that your go-to release will cease to exist and you will have to find another positive, more difficult to achieve, outlet for it all.

Like being a caveman who's gotten so used to eating Mickey Ds and suddenly has to go out and remember how to hunt his own meat :p

But that's a positive thing! We all need this change. Be excited not scared. We are going to do what is natural. We are going to be hunting the meat and it's going to come natural to us. I've been successfully hunting meat only to find I can't eat it. That is much more depressing.  We can all do it. Porn isn't an option.

I hope you are doing well. I've read through your thread. No matter what happens today and tomorrow you have already made a positive change. Eventually everything will kick into place. Keep going strong pal!
 
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Lero

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That's right, man. Everything will eventually "click" because we don't sit around doing nothing. If you've been following a plan and you have a direction, a vision about what you want to happen, then you will get close to it everyday.
 

mattdes

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Lero said:
That's right, man. Everything will eventually "click" because we don't sit around doing nothing. If you've been following a plan and you have a direction, a vision about what you want to happen, then you will get close to it everyday.

I definitely think that's the key. The idle mind is your enemy. Keep busy no matter what.
 
mattdes said:
Lero said:
That's right, man. Everything will eventually "click" because we don't sit around doing nothing. If you've been following a plan and you have a direction, a vision about what you want to happen, then you will get close to it everyday.

I definitely think that's the key. The idle mind is your enemy. Keep busy no matter what.

Amen to that man - idle mind is a real killer.
 
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The Unhappy Fapper said:
Amen to that man - idle mind is a real killer.

Too much thinking complicates things. I gotta learn how to "think less".
 

mattdes

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Lero said:
The Unhappy Fapper said:
Amen to that man - idle mind is a real killer.

Too much thinking complicates things. I gotta learn how to "think less".

Think less about p by thinking more about something else. Get your mind engrossed in something else. Something interesting and healthy. A video course or a documentary series . Get out of the house as much as you can . You can do it. That idle mind late at night is a killer.
 

mattdes

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Update..

No relapse and no urge to look at porn. My mind seems set on real women . I have definitely got a lot more sensitivity but I don't think I'd get a 100% erection yet. If I get the opportunity I'll take it but I'm not searching it out. The longer I can abstain the better but I'm not going to turn a girl I like down. If it fails there are other things I can do to please her. The most important thing is building on female contact. I think it's critical. How can you reboot if you have no system. Reboot to what? Nothing? Better to keep your head away from the p and notice the women. Enjoy hugs and contact and kissing. Reconnect. Anyway I'm 11 days and counting. Roll on the 2 week mark. I'm going to a friend's birthday party. No doubt she'll have some female friends at the party and I'm going to mingle and act like a normal guy. I'm going to flirt if I'm given the opportunity and I'm going to do everything a normal person should do and I won't be thinking of porn for one second! Keep going strong everyone. Thanks for the support so far.
 

mattdes

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Boom!!! Couldn't hold it any longer. I didn't use p but i did use youtube so that's still bad but not nudity or porn. I've lasted a lot longer than previous attempts but I'm not going on a binge and I'm back to abstaining. One day shy of two weeks when I pmo'd last. I'm only human but that's it out of the way now. Getting on with my day . Not going to even think about it.

Keep going strong everyone.
 
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mattdes said:
Boom!!! Couldn't hold it any longer. I didn't use p but i did use youtube so that's still bad but not nudity or porn. I've lasted a lot longer than previous attempts but I'm not going on a binge and I'm back to abstaining. One day shy of two weeks when I pmo'd last. I'm only human but that's it out of the way now. Getting on with my day . Not going to even think about it.

Keep going strong everyone.

That's right, man, that's the attitude. A relapse is not the end of the world, it's actually a help. A help to see what went wrong and what you could do from now on. PMO-ing only to Youtube stuff and not P after so many days is a victory in itself. You relapsed to softer stuff. The damage could be bigger. It's good that you decided not to binge. A binge is a terrible idea. Beware of that annoying chaser effect (I masturbated today without P and the chaser effect was hard). Tomorrow I will start Hard Mode. That's what I want to do.
 

mattdes

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Lero said:
mattdes said:
Boom!!! Couldn't hold it any longer. I didn't use p but i did use youtube so that's still bad but not nudity or porn. I've lasted a lot longer than previous attempts but I'm not going on a binge and I'm back to abstaining. One day shy of two weeks when I pmo'd last. I'm only human but that's it out of the way now. Getting on with my day . Not going to even think about it.

Keep going strong everyone.

That's right, man, that's the attitude. A relapse is not the end of the world, it's actually a help. A help to see what went wrong and what you could do from now on. PMO-ing only to Youtube stuff and not P after so many days is a victory in itself. You relapsed to softer stuff. The damage could be bigger. It's good that you decided not to binge. A binge is a terrible idea. Beware of that annoying chaser effect (I masturbated today without P and the chaser effect was hard). Tomorrow I will start Hard Mode. That's what I want to do.


Thanks for the support man. I'm going to consider it pmoing even though it was only soft. Why??? Because I know it's the same fake shit. So I'm back on the horse now. No chaser. The pressure is gone and i am looking forward to a life without p. I have a busy week ahead and some training in the gym. That should keep me going.
 
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mattdes said:
Thanks for the support man. I'm going to consider it pmoing even though it was only soft. Why??? Because I know it's the same fake shit. So I'm back on the horse now. No chaser. The pressure is gone and i am looking forward to a life without p. I have a busy week ahead and some training in the gym. That should keep me going.

Well, you know, masturbating to Youtube is a relapse. It feeds the addicted brain. It's not what I did: I masturbated without any P (watching or thinking about it). But I want to go on hard mode, I like it more but I have to be prepared for the hard urges.
 

mattdes

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Lero said:
mattdes said:
Thanks for the support man. I'm going to consider it pmoing even though it was only soft. Why??? Because I know it's the same fake shit. So I'm back on the horse now. No chaser. The pressure is gone and i am looking forward to a life without p. I have a busy week ahead and some training in the gym. That should keep me going.

Well, you know, masturbating to Youtube is a relapse. It feeds the addicted brain. It's not what I did: I masturbated without any P (watching or thinking about it). But I want to go on hard mode, I like it more but I have to be prepared for the hard urges.


Yes exactly the way i am thinking. If i didn't think that way i would be tricking myself. It's a little trap to get you back to pmo but it won't fool me. I'm straight back in the game.
 
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mattdes said:
Yes exactly the way i am thinking. If i didn't think that way i would be tricking myself. It's a little trap to get you back to pmo but it won't fool me. I'm straight back in the game.

P substitutes are always a tool used by the addiction to trick you into giving it dopamine and going back to P. Learning how this works is very important.
 
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