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Jonno

Member
I am 57, happily married to the same woman for more than 25 years, with 3 adult children.

I have also been “keen” on porn ever since I can remember! This started pre-internet as probably healthy teenage curiosity, but I had access to the internet from pretty early days, probably around 1996 or thereabouts, and as far back as I remember I have simply loved the thrill of online porn. My married sex life was very normal, starting to slow down as we got older from 2-3 times per week, to once per week, to probably once per month. Enough for us. Then at some point about 3 or 4 years ago I guess, my wife started to go into the stage of menopause where sex became less important, and at the same I started to develop ED!

At the time I thought it was simply a process of aging…my GP suspected nothing different, prescribed speedra and hey presto my erections were back to normal and we could continue to have normal penetrative sex. Not really though, cos I simply hated the lack of spontaneity that came with speedra, after a bit simply stopped taking them, as our love making became less and less frequent (probably my wife did not mind so much as her body was going through a difficult process). In the meantime, my appetite for porn grew and grew.

Middle of 2020 I retired from my full time job and combined with the increased home time which came from the Covid situation, my porn watching time increased more (maybe not daily, but sometimes up to 4 hours in a single day) and my ED got worse and worse. I used to invent excuses to be at home alone, and immediately head down to my office for my fix. I had lost a lot of sensitivity down there, and it became really difficult (sometimes impossible) to maintain an erection no matter what I was watching, and even though I did still feel very horny. I tried a lot of things, for example for a while 3D material on a headset worked well, but not for long. (I did manage to stay away from extreme material however, I think my morals were (and are) still very strong in that respect.) In the meantime my married sex life pretty much disappeared.

A few months ago I went to see a specialist urologist – his diagnosis was the same as the GP (i.e. that ED could possibly have a psychological source never came up in our conversation – it’s simply an “aging” thing) but he prescribed tadalafil (Cialis) which has a far longer half life then speedra and would theoretically allow more spontaneity in our occasional love making. Or so I thought.

By that time I was already partially aware of PIED through casual reading but thought that tadalafil would both let me resume a healthy sexual relationship with my wife AND revive my PMO satisfaction. How wrong I was! I sneaked a dose of Tadalafil a couple of times without my wife knowing, just to “test” it, but it did absolutely NOTHING to me, no difference whatsoever!

I got reading some more, quickly came to the conclusion that I was experiencing a case of PIED (in hindsight I probably knew it before I was just living with my head in a hole), panicked, and immediately got a porn blocker for my PC and mobile and went cold turkey. This was 27 days ago, and this post is the first time I am discussing this with ANYONE!

The last time I had penetrative sex with my wife was around 2 years ago, using speedra. As far as she is aware (unless she is not letting on) I am suffering from an “aging” problem, which has also created performance anxiety, and we don’t talk about it much beyond that. Maybe she has lost sufficient interest in sex not to really care, I don’t really know, and now I don’t actively raise the subject because of course I know I can’t perform anyway, whatever magic pill I ingest!

I have managed to go 27 days with no relapse, to be honest not watching porn has not been too difficult for me. I have also stayed well clear of softer material (youtube, vimeo etc). What I am finding REALLY difficult is staying away from edging…probably on a daily basis I find myself fantasizing about a favourite porn star and edging almost unconsciously and then I usually (not always) stop immediately. I realise this is no good at all, and is something I need to fix…… I plan to try meditation, more cold showers, more exercise…...

After a week into no PMO my morning erections started to return quite nicely and I was thrilled, but they have slowed down again. A couple of attempts to get aroused with my wife sufficiently to have sex failed miserably. I realise the healing process could take time, and that’s OK, it’s all for a good cause. The main thing I worry about is that one day I will need to be up front with my wife about my dirty history….dunno, maybe she will ask me to try the tadalafil and I’ll have to tell her that I have and they don’t work, and why. Maybe she will take it in her stride, maybe not, and I cannot bear the thought of our otherwise great relationship (in spite of the nonexistant sex) being affected. In any case I’m not happy living a lie…..we’ll see.

I realise the above is a little rambling…..sorry for that. I have read a few of the journals here and they are for the vast part very encouraging and inspiring. In fact I find that reading them, and other internet material on the same subject, really helps to understand what is going on in my brain, and really helps me to resist porn temptation. So thank you all for sharing!
 

casanova

Member
Hi Jonno, you're welcome. As you're 57 your healing should be much faster than people under 25 y.o. But still it should take some months of discipline, flatlines, ups and downs, dead dick (in some days you'll feel your dick is like a dead worm, but don't let it scare you, its part of the process). You might face some mood swings too.. stay strong and don't PMO no matter what. Preferentially dont even M nor O either, at least for 90 days.

I recovered recently after 200 days of discipline and uncertainties. Here my success story, I hope it inspire and help you a bit:

https://forum.rebootnation.org/index.php?threads/20800/
 
I think, from everything that I've read and what I understand about all of this is you really need to get away from 1) fantasizing about porn/porn stars -- it's not that different neurologically speaking to actually watching it, and 2) the edging is only re-enforcing those scarred neuro paths.

They are what you are trying to weaken. To get rid of. I don't think your reboot is going to work until you lay off that.

I know it's difficult not to give in to the urge, trust me. But I also know it is far from impossible. From my own experience.

I started having ED problems with my wife about 10 years ago. I had no idea what was causing it. It never occurred to me it was porn. I actually thought I was using porn in a therapeutic manner, to make sure everything still worked. To try to last longer. That may have actually worked to some degree a long, long, long time ago but over time the constant dependence on unrealistic fantasy makes ... real ... sex ... too boring. Even if you're enjoying it, the pleasure centers in your brain that make it happen have all been re-wired and ... yeah. I could get it up for about 2 minutes and from almost the moment sex commenced I started deflating. That was 10 years ago.

And I kept using porn for the next 9+ years. And I used more of it, found more "exciting" porn ... until over the last say 18 months of my use ... porn didn't even get it up all the way. In the end, not at all. And fapping a floppy is NOT satisfying. That's where all this leads. When I finally realized that's what it was. I still get night and morning wood... always have, although I think it had dropped off during 2019/2020... I'm getting them and maybe a little more after I quit cold turkey June 1... Still, sexual thoughts, touch ... nothing will start it up except whatever the heck it is that makes it happen without sexual arousal at night. As soon as I start moving around it goes away. But it's clear my body can still make the chemicals that make it happen, my brain just won't trigger it anymore over sexual thoughts or contact.

That's what's broken.

I will admit over my 104 days I have fapped a few times ... When I've done it I've made it a point not to even fantasize about ... well even about women, just concentrated on the physical feeling. Here and now. Never got hard. And I know even this is not a good thing and I've done what I consider a decent job of avoiding it and managing the situation when it happens. No porn in front of me OR in my head. Like I said, I know this is not good but I'm not letting those few times stop me from moving forward. No despair. Only determination to regain some of my normal sexual function. That's the goal.

Maybe I'm lucky in that I don't have overwhelming urges to bring up porn. The main reason I did it as much as I did was it was so convenient and easily rewarding. Both my work and a couple of my hobbies involve being on a computer. It's always RIGHT THERE!!!!

I had no idea I was doing damage. Now I do. That changes my calculation immensely.
 
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Jonno

Member
Hi Jonno, you're welcome. As you're 57 your healing should be much faster than people under 25 y.o. But still it should take some months of discipline, flatlines, ups and downs, dead dick (in some days you'll feel your dick is like a dead worm, but don't let it scare you, its part of the process). You might face some mood swings too.. stay strong and don't PMO no matter what. Preferentially dont even M nor O either, at least for 90 days.

I recovered recently after 200 days of discipline and uncertainties. Here my success story, I hope it inspire and help you a bit:

https://forum.rebootnation.org/index.php?threads/20800/
Hi casanova! Thanks for your words of encouragement. I have read your story and it is inspirational. You seem to have really cracked it!

From my part I have much lower ambitions :)... I would be more than happy with arriving, at the end of my journey, to just being capable to have sex with my wife as often or as few times as the mood takes us, whether this is daly, weekly or monthly.
 

Jonno

Member
I think, from everything that I've read and what I understand about all of this is you really need to get away from 1) fantasizing about porn/porn stars -- it's not that different neurologically speaking to actually watching it, and 2) the edging is only re-enforcing those scarred neuro paths.

They are what you are trying to weaken. To get rid of. I don't think your reboot is going to work until you lay off that.

I know it's difficult not to give in to the urge, trust me. But I also know it is far from impossible. From my own experience.

I started having ED problems with my wife about 10 years ago. I had no idea what was causing it. It never occurred to me it was porn. I actually thought I was using porn in a therapeutic manner, to make sure everything still worked. To try to last longer. That may have actually worked to some degree a long, long, long time ago but over time the constant dependence on unrealistic fantasy makes ... real ... sex ... too boring. Even if you're enjoying it, the pleasure centers in your brain that make it happen have all been re-wired and ... yeah. I could get it up for about 2 minutes and from almost the moment sex commenced I started deflating. That was 10 years ago.

And I kept using porn for the next 9+ years. And I used more of it, found more "exciting" porn ... until over the last say 18 months of my use ... porn didn't even get it up all the way. In the end, not at all. And fapping a floppy is NOT satisfying. That's where all this leads. When I finally realized that's what it was. I still get night and morning wood... always have, although I think it had dropped off during 2019/2020... I'm getting them and maybe a little more after I quit cold turkey June 1... Still, sexual thoughts, touch ... nothing will start it up except whatever the heck it is that makes it happen without sexual arousal at night. As soon as I start moving around it goes away. But it's clear my body can still make the chemicals that make it happen, my brain just won't trigger it anymore over sexual thoughts or contact.

That's what's broken.

I will admit over my 104 days I have fapped a few times ... When I've done it I've made it a point not to even fantasize about ... well even about women, just concentrated on the physical feeling. Here and now. Never got hard. And I know even this is not a good thing and I've done what I consider a decent job of avoiding it and managing the situation when it happens. No porn in front of me OR in my head. Like I said, I know this is not good but I'm not letting those few times stop me from moving forward. No despair. Only determination to regain some of my normal sexual function. That's the goal.

Maybe I'm lucky in that I don't have overwhelming urges to bring up porn. The main reason I did it as much as I did was it was so convenient and easily rewarding. Both my work and a couple of my hobbies involve being on a computer. It's always RIGHT THERE!!!!

I had no idea I was doing damage. Now I do. That changes my calculation immensely.
Ive, thanks for taking the time to write so much in response. Yours is one of the journals that i read which I really related to and which convinced me to start my own......there are a lot of parallels in our separate experiences. Most definitely I realise and take on board all you say about edging...it has to stop and it WILL! Starting TODAY!
I wish you strength in your own journey my friend!
 

Jonno

Member
Hi Jonno, you're welcome. As you're 57 your healing should be much faster than people under 25 y.o. But still it should take some months of discipline, flatlines, ups and downs, dead dick (in some days you'll feel your dick is like a dead worm, but don't let it scare you, its part of the process). You might face some mood swings too.. stay strong and don't PMO no matter what. Preferentially dont even M nor O either, at least for 90 days.

I recovered recently after 200 days of discipline and uncertainties. Here my success story, I hope it inspire and help you a bit:

https://forum.rebootnation.org/index.php?threads/20800/
Casanova, you say that at 57 healing should be faster.......that is an encouraging statement.....please is there any further information on "age related healing duration" I can look at?
 

Jonno

Member
Hi,
as long as you keep with the reboot you WILL regain all of your previous amazing sexual functioning.
Thank you fappy!!!!! I like to think I was amazing before all this.....but achieving just plain ordinary would suffice for me :)
 

Jonno

Member
Hello friends and fellow voyagers!
I just finished week 5 absolutely of no porn. Progress seems so-so, initially I resumed nice morning erections but these have now faded, is this normal? Also, what are the general thoughts regarding self caressing while focussing purely on the physical touch and feeling, no fantasizing at all? Should I avoid this also? I have read conflicting opinions.
I'm finding this forum an immense source of information and comfort, thank you all!
 
From what I've read here it is so normal it is almost to be expected. In my case morning wood is the one thing that never really went away so this didn't happen to me.

On the other issue, I think you're going to continue to get conflicting opinions.

I've done it some, and my philosophy is that in extreme moderation it is probably ok. I hope I'm right.
 

Jonno

Member
Day 40 and holding on!
Actually I think I am starting to notice some progress. Last 2 or 3 of mornings in a row, I woke up to a reasonable erection, but as usual, with my bladder bursting (I read somewhere that the two may be related).....Visited the bathroom, went back to bed for a relaxed few more minutes. Entered that lovely half awake/half asleep state and lo and behold.......good old buddy came to life nicely! Almost like my subconscious taking over. Separately, also felt some nice stirrings when cuddled up to my wife! After waking up properly and getting out of bed and getting about, the usual flaccid fred......but hey....those few minutes filled me with hope!
I'm still a bit far away from attempting any real sex (last time I tried, a couple of weeks ago, it was a disaster), but I'm happy today!
 

Swema

Member
I am 57, happily married to the same woman for more than 25 years, with 3 adult children.

I have also been “keen” on porn ever since I can remember! This started pre-internet as probably healthy teenage curiosity, but I had access to the internet from pretty early days, probably around 1996 or thereabouts, and as far back as I remember I have simply loved the thrill of online porn. My married sex life was very normal, starting to slow down as we got older from 2-3 times per week, to once per week, to probably once per month. Enough for us. Then at some point about 3 or 4 years ago I guess, my wife started to go into the stage of menopause where sex became less important, and at the same I started to develop ED!

At the time I thought it was simply a process of aging…my GP suspected nothing different, prescribed speedra and hey presto my erections were back to normal and we could continue to have normal penetrative sex. Not really though, cos I simply hated the lack of spontaneity that came with speedra, after a bit simply stopped taking them, as our love making became less and less frequent (probably my wife did not mind so much as her body was going through a difficult process). In the meantime, my appetite for porn grew and grew.

Middle of 2020 I retired from my full time job and combined with the increased home time which came from the Covid situation, my porn watching time increased more (maybe not daily, but sometimes up to 4 hours in a single day) and my ED got worse and worse. I used to invent excuses to be at home alone, and immediately head down to my office for my fix. I had lost a lot of sensitivity down there, and it became really difficult (sometimes impossible) to maintain an erection no matter what I was watching, and even though I did still feel very horny. I tried a lot of things, for example for a while 3D material on a headset worked well, but not for long. (I did manage to stay away from extreme material however, I think my morals were (and are) still very strong in that respect.) In the meantime my married sex life pretty much disappeared.

A few months ago I went to see a specialist urologist – his diagnosis was the same as the GP (i.e. that ED could possibly have a psychological source never came up in our conversation – it’s simply an “aging” thing) but he prescribed tadalafil (Cialis) which has a far longer half life then speedra and would theoretically allow more spontaneity in our occasional love making. Or so I thought.

By that time I was already partially aware of PIED through casual reading but thought that tadalafil would both let me resume a healthy sexual relationship with my wife AND revive my PMO satisfaction. How wrong I was! I sneaked a dose of Tadalafil a couple of times without my wife knowing, just to “test” it, but it did absolutely NOTHING to me, no difference whatsoever!

I got reading some more, quickly came to the conclusion that I was experiencing a case of PIED (in hindsight I probably knew it before I was just living with my head in a hole), panicked, and immediately got a porn blocker for my PC and mobile and went cold turkey. This was 27 days ago, and this post is the first time I am discussing this with ANYONE!

The last time I had penetrative sex with my wife was around 2 years ago, using speedra. As far as she is aware (unless she is not letting on) I am suffering from an “aging” problem, which has also created performance anxiety, and we don’t talk about it much beyond that. Maybe she has lost sufficient interest in sex not to really care, I don’t really know, and now I don’t actively raise the subject because of course I know I can’t perform anyway, whatever magic pill I ingest!

I have managed to go 27 days with no relapse, to be honest not watching porn has not been too difficult for me. I have also stayed well clear of softer material (youtube, vimeo etc). What I am finding REALLY difficult is staying away from edging…probably on a daily basis I find myself fantasizing about a favourite porn star and edging almost unconsciously and then I usually (not always) stop immediately. I realise this is no good at all, and is something I need to fix…… I plan to try meditation, more cold showers, more exercise…...

After a week into no PMO my morning erections started to return quite nicely and I was thrilled, but they have slowed down again. A couple of attempts to get aroused with my wife sufficiently to have sex failed miserably. I realise the healing process could take time, and that’s OK, it’s all for a good cause. The main thing I worry about is that one day I will need to be up front with my wife about my dirty history….dunno, maybe she will ask me to try the tadalafil and I’ll have to tell her that I have and they don’t work, and why. Maybe she will take it in her stride, maybe not, and I cannot bear the thought of our otherwise great relationship (in spite of the nonexistant sex) being affected. In any case I’m not happy living a lie…..we’ll see.

I realise the above is a little rambling…..sorry for that. I have read a few of the journals here and they are for the vast part very encouraging and inspiring. In fact I find that reading them, and other internet material on the same subject, really helps to understand what is going on in my brain, and really helps me to resist porn temptation. So thank you all for sharing!
I can relate to this!
Thanks
 

Jonno

Member
Day 44 of zero P, M and O and I think I have started to notice some positive changes. Hard-ons in the morning are returning well, and my penis seems to be a little thicker an havier most times of the day. Becoming more frisky with the wife (jumped into the shower with her this morning and we had a litle cuddle, and my penis certainly responded, maybe not to the extent it should/used to, but certainly I had the start of a nice erection). We were in a little hurry to go out so that's where things stopped, so I don't know what the eventual outcome might have been. That's OK, I think I need to build more confidence before attempting to go further. Fingers crossed this is an upward slope!
 

Jonno

Member
Day 64 since I started on my journey, 20 days since my last update and time for another update.

A couple of weeks ago I decided to start on my prescription 5mg Tadalafil daily dose. I read various opinions on this and other forums, some arguing against using such "crutches", others saying that they might help. I reasoned that in my case I may be experiencing a combination of mental (PIED) and physical causes for my ED, so using the drug would (1) help me determine whether that is the case (I am convinced my ED problem is mainly down to PIED, but I not yet sure whether there are any physical factors also contributing) and (2) maybe give me that extra little boost to take me over a ED hump and allow me to gradually build up confidence in the sack.

A few days after starting the dose I went on hols with my wife and another couple. The circumstances of the first week were such that we were sharing a very cramped living area with little privacy, so there was no chance of (trying) any real sex, but on the other hand a very cosy sleeping arrangement where I could cuddle up nicely with my wife. I have to say this all worked brilliantly as far as my ED is concerned. Not sure yet what the reason is - the cosy quarters, the brain rewiring over the last 60 days, the tadalefil - probably a combination of all 3 - but hardons started returning with a vengeance whenever any cuddling happened! Not only that, but even when not erect (and not cuddling) my penis' girth and length returned to it's previous normal dimensions, pre-PIED.

We are now finishing off our hol in a really romantic city, now with loads of privacy, and my last few days have been wonderful. We had great sex twice in 48 hours, perfectly normal, relaxed sex topped with a beautiful orgasm at the end. Very unlike my previous fumbling attempts which ended up disastrously. No doubt the fact that we are so relaxed on holiday also helped a little.

I now truly feel I am on the road to recovery from my addiction, but at the same time I know I need to be vigilant and not let my guard down. I hate porn for the damage it has done to me for a long number of years, and I know I will require continuous willpower not to relapse.
Today I stopped taking tadalefil, so the next step in my journey will be to discover just how much I need the drug to have a normal sex life. Hopefully not at all.

I hesitate at this point to label mine a Success Story, but I certainly feel that things are heading in the right direction. Let's see what happens without Taladafil.
 

guitar1968

Well-Known Member
I hesitate at this point to label mine a Success Story, but I certainly feel that things are heading in the right direction. Let's see what happens without Taladafil.
I would certainly call it a success story. Maybe not the end of your story and there of course may be some more drama in that story, but what you have achieved is success. Enjoy it. Nurture it and hopefully the success will stay with you for a long time to come.
 
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