Looking for people who had the same problems

Kwinki21

Member
Hello all,

Im 28 years old and suffering from erectile dysfunction for atleast 3 years. Probably longer...

- No morning wood for years or any spontaneous erections
- Can't get or maintain erection without masturbating
- Very hard to get off with porn when standing or laying down in bed (probably because I got used to sitting behind a screen)
- depression hits when quitting porn after a few days.

I know for a fact that porn is an issue based on a few issues. (depression, better erections masturbating to porn etc). But I can't stop wondering if It's organic.

I have used google for my symptoms and thought I had a venous leak. But I went to my urologist and he said It's not possible because I can get a full erection while masturbating and I'm too young. But he thinks its strange that I don't got any morning erections.

Wondering if people got the same issues or used to have the same problems.
 

Blondie

Respected Member
Stay clean and you will definitely see some massive changes down there. You just have to stay the course! I'm a little over 4 months clean now and have seen some great improvements. Of course during that time I've had weeks of flatline as well. All part of the process.

If you want this, you can do it.
 

Kwinki21

Member
Thanks H&M for the comment. I'm currently on 13 days no pmo. my longest streak ever was like 2-3 days in the past 10 years or so. It was just a normal daily thing for me to do before studying/work/sleep etc.

I noticed massive ed when I failed in the bedroom multiple times in a row a few years ago.

My goal is to quit this stuff till summer (4 months+) and when I don't notice any difference I visit my urologist again.
 

Kwinki21

Member
When I googled my symthoms ( I stop doing this) I came to 2 conclusions: Pied or venous leak. Thats why I keep both options open. Only reason I think It's pied is because I can get a 100% erection easy masturbating to porn but not without. I read that people with a leak can't even get 100% hard.
 

Fappy

Respected Member
Can't get or maintain erection without masturbating
- Very hard to get off with porn when standing or laying down in bed (probably because I got used to sitting behind a screen)
- depression hits when quitting porn after a few days.
yeah i had the same symptoms, too. i think as you read what others in the same situation have said youll find that these are all very common symptoms. try not to be too stressed though, they will pass the more you progress in your reboot.
 
It will get worse if you don't cut it out. I could do it with or without porn until about 10 years ago. Then I couldn't keep it up for sex. Couldn't keep it up for masturbation. Finally, I couldn't even GET it all the way hard even for porn. I was in my late 40's then.

I get night wood for no reason at all just fine. Physiologically it all works. Psychologically, it doesn't. I fried that part of my brain by pouring gasoline (dopamine) on it over and over and over again, frequently, and often for long periods of time (guess they call that edging).

Lots of stuff out there on it, and most of it seems to agree. We've OD'd on the "easy" button, as Dr. Trish Leigh puts it (watch some of her videos, too).

Then keep coming back here to lend and receive support on your journey. Me? I'm 8 months and still flatlined. Most people recover faster than I think I will, but I have heard it can take anywhere from a few months to a few years. I'm afraid because of the length, frequency, and ever-increasing intensity and duration of my habit I probably have "Long PIED".

Stick with it. Find hobbies. Pour yourself into something you've always wanted to be good at but wouldn't try. Get serious about it and practice it every day or at least 5 out of 7. Read. Interact with real people. Fill your mind with other things. Oh, yes, THIS thing will keep nagging for attention, but you must tell it NO and go do something else. It helps to have something else, or several something elses ... to divert your attention from it, and get the lower, healthy doses of dopamine rather than the gas can of porn.
 
Why do you feel that still flat line yet?

Any changes in your libido or erection?

Nothing changes in the last 8 months?
Because nothing even starts to arouse things down there. My sex drive in my brain never went away, but even when my brain gets triggered ... nothing. zippo, zilch, nada. I know my body pretty well. No reaction. Not even a tingly feeling.

Changes? Well ... I'm not wasting hours trying to flood my brain with huge amounts of dopamine in front of a computer screen by finding more and more quick-cut videos because the last one wasn't "good" enough. I'm spending more time reading and playing guitar and doing positive things. If you're worried about yourself not being able to recover -- don't let me be a damper - like I said I think I probably have a particularly bad case. I say this to warn people who are just having some ED problems -- which is where I was 10 years ago -- not to completely fry their circuits like I did. If I'd known then what I know now, I wouldn't be where I am now. I'd be recovered.

I'm just going to keep going on without porn in my life and hope it gets better and I have some faith that it probably will. If it doesn't ... oh well. It's not the end of life. But I think it will.
 
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>> If you think of something "erotic" or think of a woman you are attracted to or fantasize about someone, can you feel yourself getting erect just by thinking or fantasizing?

I actually try NOT to dwell on this, though I do see photos of very pretty women every day -- they get thrown at me via advertising. Not naked, but quite attractive in every way.

>> Have you had sexual dreams in the last 8 months?

That's a good question. Yes, probably. The only one I can remember - because it gave me some hope -- was pretty subtle. A woman came up from behind me and started kissing me on my neck and that DID start to physically arouse me because I woke up about half mast from it.

>> Have you tried to have sexual intercourse?

No. This is a bit of a touchy subject, as my wife really shows no interest in sex, though if I asked she would ... this is part of the issue, though. I don't want to be just "obliged". And I also haven't told her about this, but the time is coming. She is significantly older than I am, and just doesn't have the urge. When we were first married, she wore me out!


>> Can you get erect if you gently touch your penis when taking a bath for example?

No.


>>Thinking about something sexual with a woman or fantasizing gives you an erection?

No.

>> At what age did you start PMO?

Well ... that's a good question. If you read my bio (my first post) you'll note that I saw magazine porn as early as 7th grade. And I pretty much used that (but didn't need it, it just increased the dopamine) even ... probably into the last 10 years, but less and less often as video porn became seriously available. I'd say that was sometime in my early to mid 40's. By my late 40's, and it did come on relatively suddenly, I was having issues keeping it up long enough for even me to orgasm, much less her. In the last 10 years, it got to the point where not even porn could do it.


>> Have you been to the doctor or urologist or psychologist to rule out other possible causes of Erectile Dysfunction?

Yes. When I first talked to my doctor about it 10 years ago she said "it's psychosomatic". She was right, but I thought she was just blowing it off. (I know better now). And she didn't really offer any help until a few years later she said "do you want a prescription for Viagra". So I tried it, but didn't have a lot of luck with it. A few years later, my urologist prescribed me Trimix. At first, it was a pretty guaranteed hard on ... although I found you did need SOME stimulus to get it started (the injection does start a physical reaction but if nothing gets you aroused it won't happen. If you inject more get ready for a 12-18 hour erection that ... well it really isn't any fun after about the first couple of hours. It almost hurts. (pro tip: cardio exercise will eventually get rid of it)

Here's how I know it's not physical, and that my doctor was right 10 years ago. I still get plenty hard night wood in bed, for no apparent reason (a doctor could explain - I've read about it but forget what causes it). If I were physically unable to get an erection, this would not happen. I am clearly physically able to get an erection. Just not in response to sexual stimulus. That does seem to come in waves. I'll go for periods where it happens a lot, and periods where it happens much less frequently.

My thought was this would only be about 6 months ... I thought that when I could be aroused by touch or by a sexy photo (not explicit) that that would be the point I could try real sex again, and of course this can only be with my wife and I'm going to have to work that out.

At any rate, I have quit porn. I had told myself it would make me last longer, that it would keep me "in practice", that if I didn't do it I would DEFINITELY become disfunctional. Dead wrong. We weren't designed to have that kind of dopamine rush available to us any time we want. It screwed me up.
 
Hello all,

Im 28 years old and suffering from erectile dysfunction for atleast 3 years. Probably longer...

- No morning wood for years or any spontaneous erections
- Can't get or maintain erection without masturbating
- Very hard to get off with porn when standing or laying down in bed (probably because I got used to sitting behind a screen)
- depression hits when quitting porn after a few days.

I know for a fact that porn is an issue based on a few issues. (depression, better erections masturbating to porn etc). But I can't stop wondering if It's organic.

I have used google for my symptoms and thought I had a venous leak. But I went to my urologist and he said It's not possible because I can get a full erection while masturbating and I'm too young. But he thinks its strange that I don't got any morning erections.

Wondering if people got the same issues or used to have the same problems.
I think the majority of the guys on this site have had similar experiences to you. I know I have, I got to the point where I couldn't get a full erection with my wife. I was so hooked I was even able to quite porn when I realized I got a full erection only when I watched it. I knew something was wrong, but it was still hard to quit. It took telling my wife, and realizing how much hurt I brought to her and everyone around me who I wasn't present for. I went through withdrawal, brain fog, flatline, no libido, depression, anxiety, you name it. It's been over 4 months now since I quit, finally getting regular erections, and MW, and can have regular sex again. It's a tough journey, and until you take porn out of the picture completely I wouldn't rule it out as the cause of your issues, it truly hijacks your brain and dopamine response. On a deeper level, try to self reflect and understand why you use porn, and what's missing in your life, then find healthy substitutes, a hobby, exercise etc... It really becomes a life changing opportunity.
 

Kwinki21

Member
I think the majority of the guys on this site have had similar experiences to you. I know I have, I got to the point where I couldn't get a full erection with my wife. I was so hooked I was even able to quite porn when I realized I got a full erection only when I watched it. I knew something was wrong, but it was still hard to quit. It took telling my wife, and realizing how much hurt I brought to her and everyone around me who I wasn't present for. I went through withdrawal, brain fog, flatline, no libido, depression, anxiety, you name it. It's been over 4 months now since I quit, finally getting regular erections, and MW, and can have regular sex again. It's a tough journey, and until you take porn out of the picture completely I wouldn't rule it out as the cause of your issues, it truly hijacks your brain and dopamine response. On a deeper level, try to self reflect and understand why you use porn, and what's missing in your life, then find healthy substitutes, a hobby, exercise etc... It really becomes a life changing opportunity.

I can remember that I used to watch 1 single video when I was like 14 years old. Looking back I see how it escalated. Last years I had to keep 10+ tabs open to stay erect. When I watch a single video it becomes boring after a minute and I lose arousal. I think this is also what happens when I'm with a real woman.

Congratz on your progress btw. Stories like yours give me motivation to keep going :)
 

Kwinki21

Member
Just a small update: I woke up this night with an erection. however it went away in 5-10 seconds. First time I experienced something like this. I think progress is made :)
 
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