This is it guys -- we are all gonna make it. My first week

First_step_thousand_miles

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Hey guys --

I'm a 26M who is 100% going to stop using porn. A little bit about myself for context (and because it's cathartic). I grew up in all my life in the U.S. but with a more traditional household. Grew up a very studious, introverted kid and was always awkward around girls. I think I first heard about masturbation when I was in middle school but I didn't really understand the mechanics of it. I barely even understood it in high school! I remember having some wet dreams though on occasion and I'd wake up thinking 'wtf is wrong with me' and feel kinda guilty.

I never even masturbated until college. Which is crazy because I remember one girl literally rubbed up her foot against mine & give 100% clear signals she wanted me in high school but I never acted on it -- because I was so naive I didn't even understand what sex really was. Remember another girl who would always try to hang out with me and can remember 1-2 other girls who checked me out several times. Yet in my naiveté I didn't even get what this meant, smh in hindsight.

I first masturbated when I was 18 in college as I made a friend on my floor who would never stop talking about masturbating. Not a terrible thing on its own but I did it to anime porn. Though even then now that I think about it, I used that same video so many times in the subsequent weeks but there wasn't even any penetration. That's how sensitive I was, didn't need that or even lube for that first year. I digress though -- even later in college where there were several girls (one super cute) interested in me, I could never work up the balls to make a move. Some of this was social anxiety but some of this I now realize was due to my PMO use. When I'd see a hot girl on campus, my thought wouldn't be 'hey I should go talk to her' but rather 'I need to get back to my room and masturbate to a doppelgänger of her'? How crazy is that? I made out with some girls in my time there, maybe got to 2nd base but that was it for my college escapades.

This lack of interacting with girls continued for several years, esp as a workout injury kept me out and unmotivated about a lot of things. Finally when I was 25 I had the chance to hook up with a girl. She was gorgeous, I'd describe her but I don't want this to turn into some kind of erotica (and damage me or you guys). Yet I could barely get hard to her! This was the first girl I'd ever actually had sex with (and an opportunity that barely ever came up in my life before) and I could not believe this was happening. I always thought that I could use P as a substitute until I found a girl but never realized P would not even let me be happy with a girl. This was in September 2021.

I then went through a crappy few months and my mental health started getting worse until with a friend I got a bit transparent about it. This guy hooks up with probably 5 women a month and he said even he in the past 6 months probably couldn't get it up 6-12 times. This gave me my sanity back & I realized it wasn't just my going through this. Stumbled upon YBOP which was enormously helpful and over the next 8 months I dipped my toes in the water with quitting. Never really gave it a strong effort but just testing the waters a bit.

I turned 26 recently and I came to realize this was it. I want to be in a happy, loving relationship with a woman and I want to get married and have 2-3 amazing kids. I want the whole 9 yards. I don't want to wake up 5 years from now as a shell of a person who lost some of the best years of their lives while all their friends move on and unable to break an addiction to something that will never bring LT contentment. This is it. While these past few months I've been working up the courage, I know I need to get a move on. This will take last at least 3 months (maybe longer) and so if at least at 26 I can get in the game I won't lose out on the future. I know I can do it.

As I quit now, my usage is probably 90% hardcore stuff / 10% softcore (50% of the hardcore stuff is anime girls / 50% real girls). I was going to start this journal earlier but I forgot to. I last masturbated on April 24, 2022. Have been clean since April 25, so it's been one week. Urges have been mild so far. I probably won't journal every day or week but at checkpoints that are meaningful. Will report back gents. I WILL beat this
 
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First_step_thousand_miles

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Keep it up mate
Thanks my man, love the support. Best of luck to you as well

FYI I saw your post on 'testing' -- I can definitively say to not try this because I know it works. In the above I took a two week stretch when I was just noncommittally trying & I did not have any libido so I tested. It was terrible, didn't even get half hard. But then I tried again the same day and it was better....and then tried again the day after and it was better than the previous one...until basically I was back to my 'pre-reboot' self. Basically I think of it as an engine that sputters to life slowly. Takes a few tries but you'll be back to it...whether that is P or actual intercourse. This gave me more confidence to ignore lack of libidos / flatlines as I know it'll work even if the engine takes a bit of time to start. You got this!
 

cookiemonster

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Thanks my man, love the support. Best of luck to you as well

FYI I saw your post on 'testing' -- I can definitively say to not try this because I know it works. In the above I took a two week stretch when I was just noncommittally trying & I did not have any libido so I tested. It was terrible, didn't even get half hard. But then I tried again the same day and it was better....and then tried again the day after and it was better than the previous one...until basically I was back to my 'pre-reboot' self. Basically I think of it as an engine that sputters to life slowly. Takes a few tries but you'll be back to it...whether that is P or actual intercourse. This gave me more confidence to ignore lack of libidos / flatlines as I know it'll work even if the engine takes a bit of time to start. You got this!
Yeah agreed. When I tested on my first reboot about 4 weeks in, it took no time to see my dick was working and recovering well.

Right now I'm 4 weeks in again on a different reboot and I'm just going to steer well clear of testing erections and instead trust the process. I know my dick in theory is mostly fine already based on the last reboot but I'm going to ignore testing it and keep the strict no pmo no mo reboot going as long as possible until an opportunity to be with an actual woman crops up.

I lost my last streak because of testing erections leading to edging leading to mo leading to pmo
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Hey guys, chronicling some more experiences here. Almost near the two week mark (hit it on Sunday). One thing I've noticed during the reboot is the amount of wet dreams I've been having (not technically wet as I don't have anything in my boxers afterwards just yet, that's supposed to take at least a few months to get to apparently). Already I've had 2, one where I was definitely having intercourse (with this girl from high school I'd forgotten about) and another from this girl at work where I don't think we were doing anything but she was in her underwear.

Reason I bring this up is that I remember when I was testing the waters a few months back and within 2 weeks I also had 2-3 of these dreams. This is uncommon as when I regularly masturbate to porn, I get these dreams maybe 1-2 times a year. Now in just two weeks I've had 2? And the last time I also stopped masturbating I also had 2-3 in 2 weeks?

I don't believe this is a coincidence, it's like my body knows there is no more active fantasy so it needs to create it in my subconscious. Not a terrible thing, I think this means the process is underway. The thing that I don't like is that when I see attractive women out and about these days, I caught myself staring several times. Even at pictures of attractive women (pictures of girls from my firm -- and guys too or else it would be weird -- put up around our firm by our firm's head of culture basically) I just caught myself staring a little too long (just wearing regular clothes & dresses btw). I hope this goes away soon because it's quite awkward and at this stage I actually feel less confident, not more confident, around women I see around.

Also feeling a little anxious these days. I'm not sure whether this is due to quitting P as YBOP says this is not at all uncommon or whether it is other anxiety I've had in the past. Had a spell of 6 months in early 20s with mild anxiety / depression. Thankfully went away after I fixed some underlying issues / changed my habits but I really don't want it to come back. If it must happen & be temporary as part of this, then I'll bear through it but hopefully if that's the case it passes fairly quick. Also haven't felt particularly horny in the past two weeks. My penis has randomly gotten like half hard a couple times but aside from that nothing really. A little concerned but I know it still works if I were to try and test (because as I said above I've tried it before), but wonder what the next stage will look like

Anyway, that's all I really had to say. Wanted to document my experiences throughly so it's something for folks to refer to (and so I don't forget these important details) and also because it's part of the process. This community means a lot, keep staying strong guys
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Hey guys -- fulfilling my promise of posting at odd intervals. Was at Costco today and had the same thing I was talking about yesterday where I was literally just starting at the attractive women that walked by. Had to force myself to look away not to look creepy. When I'm using P I never stare, just a casual glance and I continue on with my thing. But now it's like my brain is starved for women and it's trying to get me to produce visual stimulation in any way possible.

It's especially strange because it's not like I'm getting hard to it. It's a weird dichotomy where my brain is getting riled up & horny but there's no action down there. I'm pretty sure though that this is part of the process where for someone in the very early stages of recovery that there is this mismatch -- basically why when it comes down to actually having sex, we P 'addicts' mentally might be ready to go but our junk just isn't responding.

One more thing before I forget, my P habits pre-recovery was usually ~10ish times a week. I'd maybe only masturbate 5 days a week but I'd do it 2x on those days. Could definitely function and everything but everything felt a little dulled in recent years -- maybe because flooding my brain with dopamine with P so much desensitized some of the joy from other things. YBOP talks about how stuff like every music feels better, food tastes better, etc. Really looking forward to all this and becoming a new man
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Yeah agreed. When I tested on my first reboot about 4 weeks in, it took no time to see my dick was working and recovering well.

Right now I'm 4 weeks in again on a different reboot and I'm just going to steer well clear of testing erections and instead trust the process. I know my dick in theory is mostly fine already based on the last reboot but I'm going to ignore testing it and keep the strict no pmo no mo reboot going as long as possible until an opportunity to be with an actual woman crops up.

I lost my last streak because of testing erections leading to edging leading to mo leading to pmo
That's awesome, praying for your success. Can't wait to hear from you once you reach the 8 week mark and then the 12th week mark!
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Also still at the two week mark -- was talking with a buddy today over the phone while driving back home. Topic was absolutely nowhere near anything sexual (and I'm very straight lol) but suddenly I started feeling horny & felt that energy pool near my penis. Wtf? Dunno what's happening but can say for sure that this doesn't happen normally. Feels like part of the process

Also to any and all reading all this, I want to chronicle everything I can a) because it feels good to tell someone and b) so that it's there to refer back to. I really, really hope that in 3-6 months I have a success story to tell you all (in abbreviated form!) and I want to make sure I get all the details. maybe this is putting the cart before the horse but I try to think of it as planning for success

I definitely felt a bit horny at random points and temped to fap today but chose not to. If I were to describe the urges (10 being the hardest to deal with, 1 being easily forgotten), so far the worst of it has been maybe a 3-4. I remember when I was testing the waters one of the earlier times that literally in the first week I felt ungodly horny and remember 1 porn scene in particular that I couldn't forget & I went and fapped in the bathroom. That was probably an 8 out of 10 urge. Tried to head it away by reading accounts on here but came across one that stimulated a lot of fantasies--- not great.

Anyway, signing off now. Goodnight fellas, and until next time
 
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First_step_thousand_miles

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Damn, today was a fairly tough day. Urges probably hit a 5-6 & I felt my concentration waver but I stayed strong. Noticed several mood swings in past 2 weeks where my brain is almost teetering on edge of depression (no anxiety symptoms). Thankfully nothing truly depressive but I'm realizing I need to change up my habits to be more resilient to mental health incl: exercising, sticking to my magnesium / vitamin d supplements religiously, and eating healthy. Maybe it won't stave away all the symptoms but hopefully makes it easier

Also noticing myself starting to get some random boners, not fully hard -- maybe half. Would never really happen before because I was always giving my penis plenty of attention to P
 

Blondie

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Nice job staying strong First step.

Noticed several mood swings in past 2 weeks where my brain is almost teetering on edge of depression (no anxiety symptoms).


Yeah this is true, and for me, it can just come out of nowhere. But luckily it seems to vanish just as quickly. It's amazing what this nonsense does to our brains, and whenever it happens, it only makes my resolve that much more stronger.

Keep staying with it, it can only get better, you just have to push through.
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Nice job staying strong First step.

Noticed several mood swings in past 2 weeks where my brain is almost teetering on edge of depression (no anxiety symptoms).


Yeah this is true, and for me, it can just come out of nowhere. But luckily it seems to vanish just as quickly. It's amazing what this nonsense does to our brains, and whenever it happens, it only makes my resolve that much more stronger.

Keep staying with it, it can only get better, you just have to push through.
Thanks my guy, nice to know we are not alone. I've noticed the same thing, the depressive symptoms disappear fairly quickly vs sticking around for a day.

Had a dream last night that I relapsed (woke up thinking thank god I didn't), including a video of some girl I don't think I've ever seen before. Felt so real, damn it's crazy how our brains are trying to mess with us. I can remember the scene even now (usually hard to remember one's dream hours after waking up) and it's definitely making focusing on work tough right now. Temptations are real. Though even that scene was NOT POV with myself, I was watching it on a video as an outsider which again goes to show that I am in early stages of healing.

Man, this is not an easy process but I know we can do it. What I'm realizing though is that after this process of 3+ months I definitely need to go out and find a girl. Not just because that's the purpose of all this but also because without that, can see how it would be easy to use P to fill that void and I never want to go back there again. But I'm going everything in my power to make this happen. The other things I'm most looking forward to aside from fixing PIED is raising my baseline level of happiness.

Right now on a BMI I'm at 24.5 (18-25 is healthy, 26+ is overweight). I'm trying to lost 20lbs of fat and hopefully replace that with 15-20bls of muscle to get some more confidence. Also trying to spend more time with other people which is helping a lot. All to say I want to be ready to go out and seize my life after this is over.

Gabe Deem talks about this that since we're flooding our brains with so much dopamine it dulls the other pleasures of life (great sunshine outside, favorite songs, etc). I've 100% noticed that my general life satisfaction has dropped since college and many things just seem boring. Not everything can be blamed on P but I'm virtually certain that at least some significant amount is because of it. Other thing is just becoming more confident & shooting my shot with more women, before there was never any incentive for me because I had P back at home. I'd even think "wow that girl is attractive but hey I can go fap to an even hotter doppelgänger of her online when I get home" -- as if this would ever be a real substitute! But such is how P affects us I suppose

God bless, wishing for your success as well
 
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First_step_thousand_miles

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One tip that I've found increases my resolve -- go outside (particularly if you live in a city). Every time I go outside and see a couple walking together, I think "I want that" and it re-asserts that P will NEVER be able to replace that. Couple other observations

- Also just noticed but my penis looks really shrunk. Glad I learned that this was normal or otherwise would be freaking out
- Sometimes when I'm just sitting in my bed reading or watching something I have my hand down my pants. I know it's weird but maybe part of the withdrawal and I wash it / hand sanitize it after once I notice (it's subconscious) but what I noticed is that just touching my penis for a little while not even thinking about P it slowly gets harder. Definitely not fully erect (maybe 30-40% or so) but I always wondered what people meant when they said they could fap to sensation alone. I think this is the very early stages of that which speaks to the recovery

I know I will get better. It will be frustrating and tough, but it WILL happen. I also know that I cannot give up because if I do, I know I will die alone or die bitter. I refuse to lose the best years of my life to this
 
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First_step_thousand_miles

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Great stuff, I can tell your brain is healing!
Much love man, your support & the community's means a lot to me. I'll definitely ramble on my posts a bit so anyone should just read whatever chunks they want (if they want to read at all!) but very grateful regardless

Read your posts, glad to see you made it the full 90! Seems you've made a ton of improvements which is awesome to see :). Very very happy for you -- is your PE issue solved?
 
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SmokenMirrors

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Much love man, your support & the community's means a lot to me. I'll definitely ramble on my posts a bit so anyone should just read whatever chunks they want (if they want to read at all!) but very grateful regardless

Read your posts, glad to see you made it the full 90! Seems you've made a ton of improvements which is awesome to see :). Very very happy for you -- is your PE issue solved?
Don't worry about rambling! This is YOUR journal, it's a tool to facilitate YOUR healing process! You can write down absolutely anything that you'd like in order to help you.

Thank you man! I couldn't tell you if the PE issue is solved because I'm neither MOing or having sex :ROFLMAO: Regardless, I'm much happier than ever so I'm focusing on that now!
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Don't worry about rambling! This is YOUR journal, it's a tool to facilitate YOUR healing process! You can write down absolutely anything that you'd like in order to help you.

Thank you man! I couldn't tell you if the PE issue is solved because I'm neither MOing or having sex :ROFLMAO: Regardless, I'm much happier than ever so I'm focusing on that now!
Thanks brother. Take it all at your pace!
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Damn, I don't remember the dream exactly but had another sex dream. Don't think there was sex specifically but it was a buildup to that. Unconscious mind is going haywire

Also mood swings are real. Got a bit upset last night when my elbows felt sore after working out, I've always felt like I needed to work out / lose fat / gain muscle in order to be more successful with girls. When my body was telling me it couldn't keep up, it definitely timed my mood and I felt like I was teetering on edge of depression. Thankfully didn't fall over the edge but this has happened several times already in such short order in past few weeks. Temptation to just fap was so real

Also what's a crazy realization is that when temptations do it, it's 90% of the time for hentai vs. real girls. I probably fapped 50/50 to both before but the former has a much stronger pull. I think the reason is that reactions / proportions are over-exaggerated with the former (no actual girl is going to finish from you just sticking your dick in...). But holy crap, P is terrible but I think the animated stuff in particular is rat poison as there's just no human element to it.

Today is a hard day guys. If I was working out 100% it would be easier to fight off as I can keep looking towards the future. Maybe I'll keep reading success stories to stay strong
 
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