Repeated failure has led me here

I'm brand new here, and I hope that I'm using this forum right.
Okay, so I guess I'll jump right into my introduction/shameful confessions:
I am a man in my late twenties, married for over 8 years. I love my wife and we have a wonderful, loving relationship both outside and inside the bedroom. I've had problems on and off with pornography and masturbation for about 7 years.
Ugh, it's embarrassing to see that typed down. 7 years? What a waste! I hope to bring some positive changes to my life with rebooting. I am a Christian, so I have faith-based convictions to stop constantly, and I have observed physical problems with porn and masturbation in myself. I find in many ways that God's Word advises against things not because of a vague moral high ground, but because they truly are bad for us physically.
I'm going to try to be as objective as possible with the extent of my problem. Where do I start? The beginning?
I started masturbating at a young age. I think I was twelve the first time. I didn't have exposure to pornography until much later. During my teenage years, I masturbated frequently, typically felt ashamed, and often tried to quit. I was never able to quit. I don't think I've gone more than a few months without masturbating since I started. I was exposed to pornography a few times growing up...ads on the internet, a scene in a movie, things like that. I never really "used" pornography as a teenager, but fantasized often. I met my wife when I was 18, and we were married when we were 20.
My addiction developed while my wife was pregnant. I worked mid shifts, and was often awake much later than her on my days off. Bored and lonely, I started viewing pornography. And the rest is history. I always feel ashamed after viewing pornography, and especially when I masturbate on a day that I've viewed porn. I've been on and off pornography for all these years. Sometimes it's months in between, sometimes I have rough patches where I view it a few days a week. Masturbation by itself is not as traumatically shameful to me, but it often seems to lead to porn viewing in one way or another.
I'm tired of all the lies and rationalization in my head. I hate that I view porn. I hate the way it makes my body feel, and I hate the way it detracts from other aspects of my life. I want to be done with it, not for a month or two, but for forever.
That's why I am here. Attempts to quit on my own have repeatedly ended in failure. I have talked to my wife about it in the past. She was upset, but thought it was "normal" for guys. I don't know if she knows that I still struggle with it. Either way, I know that it bothers me much more than it bothers her. I feel like the things that I view and do online have escalated over time. I want it to stop.
My weakest moments are in times of stress and boredom. I hope that my journal here will be a proactive distraction, and help me in both of those times.
For those of you who have taken the time to read my long-winded introduction, thank you. I am glad to hear advice that anyone has to offer.
 
Hey mate

It's good that you taken your first step by doing this

I myself believe in God and that's 1 of the many reasons I know I should stop myself

I got married in May this year, since then I have viewed porn countless times and always feel ashamed at the end. My sex life with my wife isn't the best as I cannot keep it up whatsoever

Few tips for you:

Instead of rewarding your brain and body with porn next time do this. 100 press ups when you get bored or have the cravings for porn. This method has helped me as it takes my mind off porn also tires me out to be remotely bothered. I usually start off doing like 15-20 press ups in 1 go then I rest and continue until I have done 100

One things I've noticed is when I stay away from porn and masturbating I get much closer to my wife, I begin to appreciate everything about her.

Count yourself lucky as your brain isn't hard wired like the myself, I started watching porn from like 13 and never ejaculated without it, lost my virginity this year and cannot keep it up because my brain is so used to porn.

Main thing to do is distract yourself then the cravings goes away, remember this, it's not that you are horny its the addiction and craving, you are only truly horny if you get hard for no reason. Keeping that in mind you won't relapse, Good luck mate
 

Somebody

Member
Good on you for doing this man, my best suggestion for you is to delete/throw out ALL forms of porn(stash, dvds, nudity scene videos, etc) and install a website filter for porn which should help you stop viewing it without effort.

I've deleted my entire 3tb stash of porn videos... my backup porn video stash... my everything! Best thing I've ever done, and I've been doing strong since I started.

You can do it, and just be glad you have a wonderful wife who understands.
 
Thank you both so much for your encouragement. I like the idea of doing some exercise if I get too bored and I start to feel like I'm slipping. I think I'll give that a try the next time I'm alone at the house and tempted. Somebody, I don't have a porn stash, and I've tried an internet filter before. I have to say, the internet is my biggest source of temptation. It doesn't take too much to get my mind in the gutter, and it seems like every site on the internet has promiscuous pictures. It seems like that's how it starts for me. I see a picture of some scantily clad celebrity on an otherwise innocent website, which I click on, which leads me to other pictures, and then I'm googling things and end up looking at way too many body parts.
At this point, it seems like I do the best when I completely limit which sites I go to. I need to become stronger, and fix something before I can really trust myself on the internet. I don't want to be attracted to women other than my wife. I think masturbation is a huge part of it. Since I was a kid, I rarely resisted the urge to masturbate successfully. So, if I saw something that aroused me, I might not masturbate to the image, but I would still masturbate. A nude scene in a movie might cause an "emergency" trip to the bathroom. Looking back I see that this was a terrible thing. I taught myself repeatedly that the solution to feeling libidinous was to masturbate, rather than to boost my discipline by doing something productive.
Anyway, thanks again. It is nice to have people to share these things with and to gain confidence from.
 
Im glad that your faith in god is keeping you strong, I think the end reward for you and your wife is more than worth it. Its not easy changing a deeply rooted behavior, I have alot of things im still working on, a big one is procrastination and fear of failure. Just remember your alive today and its never to late to make a change for the better! You have one life to live and you can do this! this may be helpful if necessary, have you ever heard of the "Don't break the chain" method? Im also a big believer in replacement therapy, if your occupied with a hobby/task your not feeling the urge/temptation to masturbate!

http://dontbreakthechain.com/what
 
Thanks for the link, Deadpoolio.

So I guess today is day five since I started this journal. I know there will be tough days ahead. We just bought a laptop for my wife, and with it will be some additional temptation. It has a webcam, and I have previously been known to perve on webcam sites. I think the key is to avoid taking the first step, the lie of "hey I'm bored, I'll just hop on here to see what people are saying, I won't open any webcams." I've fallen for that too many times.
On the plus side, I've got a lot to keep me busy lately, which is extra good. If I do the things I need to do, I will feel a sense of accomplishment and also avoid spending time on the tempting computer.
 
Struggling a little more yesterday and today. It seems I'm becoming super sensitive to any erotic images or media, and there is so much of it everywhere! Billboards, magazines, facebook, all over the place. It's annoying because even little things set off urges for self gratification. But I know it's not real libido, because morning wood is not super regular lately, and things like bumpy roads aren't causing any unwanted erections.
I think I'll take some previous advice and go exercise. Hopefully time in the gym will help.
 
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presson

Guest
I can definitely relate. Some days everything feels like a trigger. Keep going man!
 

Irvin

Active Member
Acknowledging the problem is the first step towards getting over it! You're on the right path. And remember, progress is non-linear, every day doesnt have to be better than the previous one, but eventually everything will come to its place! Good Luck!
 
Thank you for the encouragement. It's helpful to think about progress having it's ups and downs, actually. When today is so much harder than yesterday, it is comforting to know that it doesn't necessarily mean that tomorrow will be harder than today.
 
So, for future me that may read this later on: "This sucks. It's been around a week since this 'journey' began, and it sucks. If you ever doubt that you can be addicted to things like P or M, just try to remember how rough this was. And just remember, you are done with this now, and if you ever think about going back, you'll have to go through this again. It's definitely not worth it."

I know that there will be positive rewards to fighting off these urges. I just wish they would show up soon.
 
Well, still clean, but noticing some things that deserve mentioning.
Sex has been infrequent, but that is unrelated to what I'm dealing with in the reboot. Even sex does not reduce the urge to M or watch P. I've been craving visual cues, and even the slightest glimpse of a thumbnail photo is enough to spike cravings. I've thought once or twice that I'm ready, that it's safe to branch out to different websites than the ones I've restricted myself two. Then I'll catch a glimpse of a celebrity photo over my wife's shoulder on a news website or something, and realize that if I was sitting in the chair, I would have clicked that photo link. The descent into the rabbit hole would be almost inevitable at that point, especially if I was alone in the house. So, I'm still restricting myself. Better not to risk it.
Dream fantasies also seem to involve masturbation as much as physical interactions with my wife. I'm not craving love, I'm craving that dopamine rush. Bleh.
The things that seem to help are things that give that dopamine boost, but in a healthy way. Hiking in new place was exciting. I realized afterwards that, even if I came across porn at that moment, I wouldn't feel I needed it. I had already gotten my fix. I need to pursue more of those "good fixes".
 
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presson

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I found what you were saying about "good fixes" encouraging, keep up the good work man!
 
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MindOverMatter67

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I remember how I felt the first weeks after quitting my 8-year old smoking habbit. When I experienced a crave, my blind beastly nature was screaming at me as if the end of the world was nigh. It felt as if quitting my drug habbit, which did nothing but wreck my mind and body, was going to ruin me. After 4 months, most of the time it feels as a slightly amusing experience in the distant past.


http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/mzb/oxherd.htm
 
Hey! glad to hear that your hiking trip was productive and your channeling positive energy between you and your wife. I understand the webcam website also, I never tried activating my own cam but my compulsion or desire would search. Some things you would find were honestly funny, :D but for the most part it was a outlet for perversion. I can also relate with the magazines, especially with some celebrities that are particularly attractive its hard not to wonder what they might look like in the middle of a sexual act.

Another thing you can try is installing a browsing extension (add-on firefox users) the one I use is web filter pro, and I have it installed on every browser on my computer.

 
That is a good idea with the web filter. I've tried one before, but it was too restrictive (like I can't browse normal sites like amazon). I guess this is around week two for me. Today was the first day that I was alone at the house and honestly did not have to battle any urges. I'm sure they will still come and go, but some of the really rough days last week showed me that I don't have to cave.
 
Another weekend down, another few days of being home alone. Friday was tough, but Saturday and Sunday were fine because I was so busy.
I did something risky. My wife mentioned a picture she saw online because it was indecent. I also saw it and another thumbnail type pictures in innocent sites that caught my attention. For some reason, I could not stop thinking about those pictures. I wondered what the actual pictures looked like. I felt obsessed with them, but fought the urge to click on them. After a day or two of that, I decided to look them up. I felt like they were consuming my thoughts for no reason; I wanted to prove to myself that they were just pictures, that I was elevating their worth for no reason. I was worried that I might slip, though, so I waited until I was not alone in the house.
I looked up the pictures and I was, to my surprise, disappointed. I did not feel the hotness under the collar, the urge to binge. I did not find the pictures attractive or feel compulsion to masturbate. I was truly glad for the disappointment. I hope it is a sign that I am recovering, that I am starting to see women as people, and not just pixels.
To myself and others reading this: I don't recommend testing in this way. If I was in a weaker state of mind and if I was not alone, this experiment could have gone differently. Just remember how it went the next time you feel tempted by an image or video. You could obsess about how a celebrity looks in the nude, break down and hunt for images online. In the end she is just a person. There is nothing special about her. You have seen all sorts of bodies during your checkered past. There is nothing special about this one, nothing you haven't seen before. If you want to appreciate a woman's body, go appreciate the real thing.
 
I messed up today. I Started to M, but didn't O. The thought came into my head that "this isn't worth it" and I was able to stop.
A couple of observations: the urge for P has been tapering, but the urge to M is really strong lately. It feels like I'm wasting so much time during the day just trying to fight off urges. Then I start to rationalize "just get it over with and you'll be able to concentrate better". Well, after the M without O this morning, all of a sudden I have urges to do much more...binge on P, get on webcams, basically go do all of the terrible things I'm trying to stop.
I haven't had such a strong response after an O with my wife. It re-enforces my suspicion that I can't be trusted to M at the moment.
I'm glad it didn't go further. I wish I was at a point in my life where I could MO and not relapse, but I have high certainty that I am not there yet.
 
I wish I was posting good news after the Thanksgiving break, but I'm not. It was easy to avoid PMO while visiting with family, but I have slipped up over the past few days. It started with an "innocent" news website, which I was intentionally avoiding before. In hindsight, I was still not ready to go to such a site. I clicked on a couple of female celebrity links, lying to myself that I was just interested in reading about the story. Then, the next day I googled a couple of the people I had clicked on. Now today I googled more, and ended up viewing nudity. I intentionally viewed P. I had gone over a month without it, and then just did it without even resisting. Thankfully I was not home alone, so it did not escalate into a full scale relapse with M and O. I'm still really disappointed with myself. Now I am worried that I will make the excuse that I failed already, so I might as well relapse. Hopefully the battle tomorrow isn't as bad as I'm expecting.
One day at a time.
 
Oh, I also am flatlining. I am feeling more and more attracted to real women (not all good, because I'm married). Still very attracted to my wife, but I'm having some performance anxiety in the bedroom causing weak erections. I'm hoping it is just a flatline, and that it will pass. Either way, it shows that this part of my life is having real, physical consequences, and it needs to stop. I hope that my confidence in the bedroom comes back, and that the I can work on the attraction with women that aren't my wife. One thing at a time, I guess.
 
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