NO Artificial Stimulation!!! Day 1 Nov 4

[Brock Savage]

Hey guys,

I recently posted on Nofap and my reboot record was only 28 days...but it was an awesome 28 days and I could really feel the results!
It can be tough at times but the improvements are totally worth it. However I did relapse a couple times (drinking doesn't help), so I decided to try something new and check out the community on Reboot Nation. So if anyone else with with me, October 26 2015 is Day 1--absolutely NO artificial stimulation. Our 20's are some of our best years and not another minute will be wasted!

-Brock Savage

 

[FallenAngel88]

Welcome Brock! I'm totally with you!  Do you wanna tell us anything more about yourself, your past experience, how you realized you needed a reboot, exc. ?

 

[Brock Savage]

Thank you FallenAngel88!

It's day 2 for me and I happened to get laid this evening, which I will take as a good omen for the rest of my reboot. Initially there was some ED (probably PIED) but I was able to push through it successfully.

So like most guys, I started looking at porn online around 14-15. Had no idea of negative effects, I just thought it was normal. But this was around the time high speed internet came out, which accelerated things pretty quick. So needless to say, this ruined my sex life during high school and college (actually it was nonexistent in high school), and even for years after college.

It wasn't till a couple years after college that I got into self development, with a huge help form RSDnation.com, which I highly, highly recommend for anyone reading this.
But I still felt like something was missing. Still looking at porn, still needing porn to fap. I realized it was stupid to waste my 20's on completely fake stimulation--its basically the same as just using drugs or video games to have a good time instead of having real experiences. Life is short. And this obviously affected my ability to attract girls. I sucked. I decided this year that giving up porn was the last major decision I needed to make in self development, to truly realize my potential.

Even with the help of RSD, and sites like yourbrainonporn, I still had relapse after relapse. But it got easier once I watched more videos and learned the science behind it, like triggers, reward circuitry etc. Finally I decided that's it, I can do this, I just need to be accountable to others going through the same self development.

So here I am. Thanks guys. We can do this, like Neo unplugging from the Matrix, haha. We can unwire and reap the amazing benefits. Only good things will come from rebooting. Let's do it!

-BrockSavage

 

[Brock Savage]

Oh yeah-- feel free to tell me about yourself FallenAngel. I got your back!

 

[LeirTheFox]

Hey Brock, good thing you came from PUA to here. I feel that compromising with no-PMO (and taking a step further to deal with it, which is what happens here) helps a lot in the journey of self-development. I'm aboard here for very similar reasons. So, yeah, glad to see we're not alone

Relapse became a thing in my journey and I'm also decided to unplug it. So, yeah, rebooting and meeting real women!

If I may ask, I'd like to see your interactions with women in your journal, and how do you see the benefits. I believe it'll be really encouraging for the readers out there.

By the way, if you need an accountability partner, feel free to PM me.

Cheers!

 

[Brock Savage]

Day3

Hey Leir, thanks so much for the support. Yeah it is great to know that others are coming form a similar background.

I was going through a tough dry spell for several months, but finally broke it the other night, partially thanks to joining this community.

As far as noticable reboot benefits... I guess the best way to compare the difference is for me to compare my interactions/motivations from back in high school+college. Back then all my approaches weren't really coming from real/natural intentions, and they were all awkward and terrible because there was no real desire behind it.

Now, even after a week or two of reboot (and not fapping), my natural drive kicks in and I feel naturally driven to approach girls. Rebooting is just a way of letting nature/horniness run its course. It's literally rewiring the brain and re-sensitizing the neuroreceptors for natural rewards (if you want to talk about it scientifically).

So as far as interactions, I'd say the best way to describe it is that the longer you reboot, the easier it is for your natural "autopilot" to kick in when talking to
girls.

For me, there are 3 final obstacles to overcome in order to get out of "Intermediate Purgatory", as RSD Tyler would say:

1. NO Artificial Stimulation (why we're all here)
2. Meeting girls in the day should be easier than meeting them out at night
3. Don't rely on alcohol in game

I think I'm doing ok so far with #1, but 2 and 3 are tough for me cause they're so damn socially conditioned. I can't say I'm naturally "good" with girls till I overcome these 3.

What are your thoughts, Leir?

 

[LeirTheFox]

As far as noticable reboot benefits... I guess the best way to compare the difference is for me to compare my interactions/motivations from back in high school+college. Back then all my approaches weren't really coming from real/natural intentions, and they were all awkward and terrible because there was no real desire behind it.

Now, even after a week or two of reboot (and not fapping), my natural drive kicks in and I feel naturally driven to approach girls. Rebooting is just a way of letting nature/horniness run its course. It's literally rewiring the brain and re-sensitizing the neuroreceptors for natural rewards (if you want to talk about it scientifically).

I definitely feel that too, Brock. I haven't done any approaches with "natural intentions" until the end of my high school. I was too drawn for approval and also extremely needy. Time gradually changes that, but one major kick on that was stopping with PMO. That was the first time I started to find approaching, rejection -- well, I guess action in general terms -- enjoyable.

I'm on two weeks now, and I also feel a slight change of posture, not only physically, but when it comes to deal with my own shit. You know that story of confidence? It's true. You feel good for absolutely no reason, and I think this is a plus to our interaction with women.

In fact, one thing with me that really changed in pickup was my perception of them. When I used to PMO I had higher anxiety, higher expectations and was also almost irrealistic to my standards. Not that the real women weren't attractive... but their flaws totally cut off my interest. Also I realized that while in porn I was really attracted to alternative, emo/rocker-ish girls, a standard I had only on early adolescence and was a total escape from reality.

The best thing now is to learn how to like them as they are. And that's what make them so interesting now.

For me, there are 3 final obstacles to overcome in order to get out of "Intermediate Purgatory", as RSD Tyler would say:

1. NO Artificial Stimulation (why we're all here)
2. Meeting girls in the day should be easier than meeting them out at night
3. Don't rely on alcohol in game

I think I'm doing ok so far with #1, but 2 and 3 are tough for me cause they're so damn socially conditioned. I can't say I'm naturally "good" with girls till I overcome these 3.

Interesting, I feel I have almost the same difficulty with you in #2 and 3. I say almost because my reality around here feels that meeting girls at night is easier than during the day. The reason is, back here where I am, feminist movement had strong influence over the women, to a point in which approaching itself may get you reprehended.

I done it myself and I admit I feel strongly afraid to do that outside of social acceptable circumstances (like bars, happy hours and parties).

As for the alcohol, I admit it was a stronger belief because I used to drink a lot in these environments. One experiment I did before was to cut alcohol for three months and, back on that time I had to approach sober. For now I still feel it helps after the 2nd beer can... but that's strongly challengeable.

If I may suggest, you can try adding that to the list. One month of no-drinking. What do you think?

Stay sharp! ;D

 

[Brock Savage]

Day7!

Hi Leir,

Good to hear you have very similar experiences.
"The best thing now is to learn how to like them as they are. And that's what make them so interesting now."
I totally feel you man.. that's what keeps things interesting and what keeps you wanting to meet more girls.
The non drinking experiment is a good challenge! I don't know if I can do that one though, haha.... maybe.
I feel like I'm meeting a lot of girls from going out and drinking or going to events where there's alcohol...but I know I don't need it. Maybe 1 month of cutting down on drinking, or 2 drink maximum per night, could be possible. haha.

How's your reboot going? I have to admit, I did slip and look at some stuff online for a couple minutes today. But no fapping. So I'm not going to consider it a full failure where I have to reset the clock again. But as far as girls, this week really has been the most successful of my life so far...and it all started with rebooting 8 days ago. So things are good. Now just gotta do more daygame...

-Brock Savage

 

[Brock Savage]

Ah Shit, back to day 1...

Relapsed after being sick at home with nothing to do, and horny. Accountability partners welcome! Because I feel like just posting here isn't enough. I should have a couple dates lined up this week, which should be a help/distraction, but... shit, Day 1 again!

-Brock Savage

 

[igetum]

Hello brock Savage, glad you joined this community.  I see you are struggling with relapses. Personally I am 31 days without p. I have to admit i struggle with MO though. I recently read a book " The power of your subconscious mind" and realised how powerful the brain is. It taught me to forgive,  break habits, build habits etc. I will not lie and tell you it is the solution, but it is worth a try. And I would advice against indulging in fantasies of P M or O, but just trying to occupy the mind with other better thoughts.. Or letting eyes linger a little longer on suggestive images/videos I once relapsed because of facebook images. As you said, twenties are precious years to be wasted on PMO.

 

[Brock Savage]

Hey thanks so much for your response, Igetum. Psychology and the power of the subconsious has always been interesting to me... I listened to the audiobook a bit.
But in the first minute the author stated "why is it many immoral and irreligious people succeed and prosper...?" So I stopped listening the second it sounded like religious preaching.

I'm sure there's value in the book though. Congrats on 31 days and thank you for your reply.

-Brock Savage

 

[igetum]

Thankyou Brock Savage.

 

[LeirTheFox]

Day7!

Hi Leir,

Good to hear you have very similar experiences.
"The best thing now is to learn how to like them as they are. And that's what make them so interesting now."
I totally feel you man.. that's what keeps things interesting and what keeps you wanting to meet more girls.
The non drinking experiment is a good challenge! I don't know if I can do that one though, haha.... maybe.
I feel like I'm meeting a lot of girls from going out and drinking or going to events where there's alcohol...but I know I don't need it. Maybe 1 month of cutting down on drinking, or 2 drink maximum per night, could be possible. haha.

How's your reboot going? I have to admit, I did slip and look at some stuff online for a couple minutes today. But no fapping. So I'm not going to consider it a full failure where I have to reset the clock again. But as far as girls, this week really has been the most successful of my life so far...and it all started with rebooting 8 days ago. So things are good. Now just gotta do more daygame...

-Brock Savage

Hey Brock, sorry for not answering before.

Yeah, going full on cutting alcohol might be too extreme at beginning. The two beers/night option sounds better IMO. My suggestion came because in your 1st post you mentioned that "alcohol didn't help" you in this journey, sometimes leading to relapse. It's good to mention that consumption of alcohol in great quantities reduces testosterone, so it might numb the positive effects of no-PMO.

Regardless of that, moderation is key. We don't want to become monks, holy men or anything (although we meditate ), we just want to get this part of life settled, right?

Hey man, relapsing always teaches us something. Try not to put yourself down for it and see what lead you to that. Was it social media? Was it some sort of habit that usually leads you to MO? Being aware of that is important, so you can deal with it even better. Just don't give up.

Since we both have this PUA background and have similar purposes (getting better with women), I propose we become accountability partners. What do you think?

As for me, so far is going good. I know how slipping back is tempting. Social media is killer when it comes to that: sometimes I'm browsing my timeline and, all of a sudden, I see some news involving hot actresses and it tempts me to google them after their bodies, or if they already made nude/sex scenes. By realizing that I'm about to throw in this pattern, I stop myself and say: I know where this is going. I will not. My curiousity is just temporary. Abandon it now, and it'll pass like any other thought.

One thing that really crushes me is that I'm addicted to dopamine in general, so my body asks for compensation after porn: sugary foods, lots of sleeping, playing games... and yeah, I'm slowly becoming a lazy ass for that. I'm still a bit sick, had fever yesterday and I'm coughing a lot lately. I'm taking pills and I'm trying to get better, but overall I feel procrastination is killing me. I feel useless.

That's why they say no-PMO is about changing YOU, I believe.

Anyways Brock, one thing that worries me a lot is my emotions. I am dating a girl I met two weeks ago and I'd love to keep things going, but I'm worried I might be too invested on her. It could be also a side effect of no-PMO: wanting to find someone so you can finally settle down and have healthy sex. I'm not into playing games, but since I'm always the one taking the lead, I worry I might be the one who's too invested on this. And this leads me to a paradox: why it makes me more attached when it should improve my conditions?

Again, it might have other reasons, I'm not sure.

Stay sharp and, if you're interested in accountability, just inbox me!

 

[Brock Savage]

Day 11 and feeling great!

This process will work only if we put effort into other areas we've been neglecting, socializing/meeting girls, excersise/health, career, etc.

-Brock Savage