48 years old and tired of PIED

evinced

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I found this site after doing some reading YBOP which helped me realize that I have been suffering from PIED.  This is where I am currently and I hope to map the path that got me here.

As long as I can remember I have always had some fascination with sex and had erections at a fairly early age.  My sister and found my grandfathers stash of playboys and spent countless hours reading the cartoons and of course the nude pics.  I remember playing with my penis but of course was too young to have an orgasm or ejaculate.  Over the years until my early teens I would occasional attempt to masturbate, often for hours, sometimes with a magazine but more often it was just self exploration. At some point in my early teens I finally found out what I had been missing. I had my first orgasm and it was like nothing else I had experienced. I was hooked.  I went through cycles of daily masturbation and when I was able to get my hands on a new mag(often Hustler, High Society, etc) already preferring mags that showed some pussy.  I intuited my way into what I later learned was edging. I would stroke as long as possible enjoying every pic in the mag and making sure I didn't cum until the end. Of course my edging orgasms were even more intense and that much more addicting.  Fortunately by the time I was 16-17 I became sexually active and dived in head first and for awhile I was masturbating less and usually not to porn and was doing everything I could to hook up with girls my age. 

So far ED had never been an issue and if anything the most I ever experienced was delayed ejaculation such that a few times I had to stop mid-sex because it was taking too long for the girl.  When that occurred I would usually finish myself manually either with the girl or at home after. This lasted until my early 20s.

Over the next decade or so masturbation to porn was infrequent and usually resulted in extreme arousal and a good orgasm. I was regularly dating or in relationships with regular sex.  Masturbation was occasional (3-4 times a month) and usually not to porn. Often I would wake up horny with morning wood and start the day with a smile.  Well into my 30s other than 1 or 2 cases of whiskey dick I had no performance issues with a live person or alone.  However masturbation was definitely a part of my life and porn was the exception not the rule.  However in my early 30s my relationship changed to a long distance situation where there had been some strife and lack of stability.  With all of this alone time, porn and strip clubs began to fill the void that was left by my girlfriend who was now on the opposite coast.  If it wasn't for online computer games I probably would have become a porn addict back then.  Computer games took enough time to distract me from daily masturbation and porn was reserved for special "me" time when a good nut was due.  Eventually the long distance relationship ended and that along with some life issues I went through a bout of depression which led to some performance anxiety and occasional PE which usually improved with some more regular sex. 

After couple years of single life I met the woman I would later marry and entered into my longest lasting relationship.  We went through the usual honeymoon phase with lots of sex, but I still masturbated but often not with porn.  As the relationship progressed the sex life simmered and my masturbation increased and was almost daily and sometimes more than once a day, especially on weekends.  It was at this point that I experienced what I now realize was PIED.  At first I chalked it up to being too drunk or the 2 times I masturbated that morning.  By now porn was used when masturbating nearly 100% of the time.  My wife worked early and went to bed before I did which gave me plenty of time to peruse the readily available internet porn and I was hooked. Nude pics, porn clips, webcams, forums etc.  I was stroking to porn almost every day and rarely had performance issues except on a few occasions with my wife.  To mitigate the problem I would try and plan our sexual encounters so that I would refrain from a PMO so that performance wasn't an issue. Attraction was never the problem.  This cycle went on for 5+ years.

Over the last 2 years or so life has added extra stress to the mix and my wife lost her job and went into a deep depression.  Not only did this mean that she was home all the time but that she was up late. No more late night stroke sessions for me and her depression also killed her sex drive.  The lack of sex just led me into more masturbation but my time and opportunities were limited to early mornings before work.  In this phase masturbation became a race to cum so that I could leave for work on time or on weekends before the wife got up and it was not an option.  Little I realize at the time was that this race to cum had it's side effects. First, when I did have sex with my wife I had a hair trigger and couldn't last very long (which I attributed to the long gaps between sex). These gaps could be 2-3 months but sometimes less. Second, in order to cum fast enough I had to expand into different types of porn and eventually I was using tiled windows and watching one of my carefully collected and cataloged porns, a webcam, forum etc all at the same time. It was taking more to reach the rushed goal.  During the last 6 months things got worse.  My wife and I attempted to have sex and PIED reared its ugly head and I couldn't stay hard with her. She took it as me not being attracted to her and of course that was not the case for me. This happened 2 times and my confidence was rocked and I worried about my wood. Thus began a rapid downward spiral of more and more porn and an erection that was increasingly unreliable. If I stopped stimulation for even a few seconds I would start to lose my erection and often times the only time I was 100% was right as I was ready to cum.  It wasn't long before there was an occasional case where it took great effort to get hard and a few times I came while only partially erect. I was experiencing a lot of anxiety at this over my boner and was considering viagra etc. I began to research online and eventually came across YBOP and realized that my old friend porn had done me wrong.

I did some reading, read many journals and knew that I had found the culprit.  Up to this point I had never seen porn as immoral or dirty, my wife knows I viewed porn and laughed about my collection.  We even watch porn together once in awhile.  I just never realized how I was affecting my brain and my erection.  As a result, 5 days ago I decided to solve the problem and reboot.

I plan to post again to talk about what I have been through so far and to help myself stick to this reboot.  My immediate goal is 30 days of no PMO (not sure how to get that counter) and limit MO to when I am horny and without any form of porn or psub. Thanks to everyone for the stories I have read so far and wish me luck and I embark on this challenging endeavor.
 

evinced

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Well it looks like I figured out the counter but I may want to add second counter to it.  While today is my 8th day without a PMO I did view some P the first 2 days but didn't PMO (mainly because my junk wasn't responsive and I was already trying not to masturbate to porn.  I think was hoping for a response to the porn but that didn't happen.

After reading more information I have realized that my lack of morning wood, for quite some time now, is likely connected to all of this as well.  Looking forward to having that happen again.  Overall I definitely am thinking about porn a lot. Maybe even more than the temptation to masturbate to porn.  Also, very focused on my erection or lack there of.  Yesterday I actually felt a little horny and did manage a MO without watching porn and I am still on the fence whether I am going to set no MO as a goal.  For now I think PMO is my main issue and I may also add a counter for P only but I will see how it goes and how I feel.

Anyway back to work for me.
 

evinced

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Just checking in and mainly writing this to get my thoughts out in the open.  Overall things are going in the right direction but I do find that all of this is consuming a lot of my mental energy.  While I am not extremely tempted to relapse and watch porn and/or masturbate to it, the thoughts keep popping into my head.  I will be sitting at home and suddenly my mind drift to "hey why not watch some porn"?  Even if I did I am not sure my equipment would cooperate anyway at least not in a way that would be satisfying.  Before my break, getting hard was increasingly difficult and required more and more stimulating porn or multiple types at once.  On the off days I could get completely hard without being ready to cum I was on the verge of cumming even when only 3/4 erect or less.  Not very satisfying at all.  I was at least encouraged that last night I woke with partial wood and the same when I got up this morning. Been a long time since that has occurred.  Sadly I feel that I am probably too focused on the state of my erection or lack there of and I have some anxiety over my ability to perform the next time my wife wants to have sex since prior to attempting this reboot things didn't go well on the last 2 tries.  Definitely not discouraged but anxious for some improvement.  For now I will continue to persevere.
 

Brooklyn Jerry

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I am quite a bit older then you,and will say not jerking off has made me better able to perform with a real women. And when I slipped up by viewing porn and fapping or edging to porn the problem returned.
 

evinced

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@Brooklyn Jerry

Good to hear.  I am sure that once I am able to get back in the saddle again the confidence will return. Just a little of anxiety after the last two times did not go well.  My wife has been in a depression and gained some weight and hasn't felt very sexy so my issue ended up making her feel worse and despite my insistence that it was me it did little to boost her confidence.  Of course that added to my worries about performing so I am nervous about that moment when I have to perform.  I am confident that things will improve with enough time away from porn but until I get that reality check the first time I am sure I will be a little nervous and I hope it goes well.  Thanks for the feedback.
 

unchained

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evinced said:
While today is my 8th day without a PMO I did view some P the first 2 days but didn't PMO (mainly because my junk wasn't responsive and I was already trying not to masturbate to porn.  I think was hoping for a response to the porn but that didn't happen.

Please don't do that to yourself.  It's called "testing" and it almost never ends good.  One of two things will usually happen.  One is that your dick won't work and leaves you worried, depressed and anxious.  The other is that it does and you will most certainly end up PMO'ing.  I used to obsessively test in the shower when I first started trying to quit.  It almost always ended up going to porn fantasy and eventually back to porn.  As a matter of fact, I finally came to the conclusion that all MO eventually takes me back to porn so I am now strictly hands-off.
 

freshstart@40

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I concur. 48 days and no p, but I did end up Ming to O last week, after I got curious to see if  it still worked. Testing leads to m, m may lead to o, which may lead to p.
Hands off, let it work when it needs to
Be strong.
 

evinced

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So overall things are going well for the most part.  Haven't watched any porn since the first 2 days without PMO.  Definitely pops into my head a lot when doing random things, when I have idle time etc but I have managed to resist the urge.  The X-mas holidays ultimately lead to the realization that something wasn't right. Too much time on my hands to watch P and MO.  At least work takes up enough of my day to keep me distracted but weekends are the big challenge.  Here's to staying strong this weekend and finding positive activities to do in the morning that don't involve PMO.
 

Brooklyn Jerry

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  Make it through the weekend and stay busy . I am almost to 90 days ,and hope that this time  I never relapse . I still remember before my 16 birthday I thought about quiting jerking off. That was 50 years ago . I had never even  seen a porn film at that time, only some Playboy mags . But at that age I could JO watching Goldie Hawn on Laugh In. It didn't take much them to get me horny.and never a problem doing it a few times every day. Now as I got older I know I can't PMO and still try to have sex with my lady, so this is  fact is a major incentive to keep my hand away from myself. Hang in, it will be with it .
 

evinced

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Oh well, the weekend didn't go so well. Between being slightly hungover on Sunday and clearing out some porn from the hard drive I slipped.  Back to square one again but not discouraged.  At least it helps me be more aware of how easy it can be to slide back into old habits.
 

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2 days in for the second time.  Woke up in the middle of the night with wood and had a very sexual dream right before my alarm went off.  Pretty sure that masturbating twice during my 14 day run may not have helped so I am strongly considering avoiding that as well for at least the first 30 days.  At least I got rid of one of my accounts that led me to fail last time. Had  some unused credits on a webcam site and rationalized that before removing my account, what was the harm is giving my credits to a camgirl first. Lol, as if that wasn't a bad idea.  The renewal for another site was also due but thankfully my credit card expired just it time for the renewal and they couldn't process my membership so that's another option off the table.  Looking forward to try #2 going better.
 

evinced

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Another rough weekend but I managed to make it through it.  I did end up viewing some porn which resulted it some added anxiety. Saturday night rolled around and the wife was in a rare mood for some lovin' and we talked about my concerns over some PA and PIED and she agreed to be patient.  Unfortunately there had also been some drinking and the equipment did not cooperate.  That left me even more anxious on Sunday and tempted to watch more porn. I did check a little out but didn't PMO.  Was able to discuss the previous night with my wife and she wanted to try again last night and this time no drinking was involved.  It took awhile to relax and there was some performance anxiety but eventually things starting cooperating and I was able to perform. Albeit not very long but it was a confidence boost. First time we had successful sex in months. 

All of this has reinforced my need to stay away from the Porn and PMO. When it comes down to it I would rather have the occasional action with my wife then the daily PMO that led to my PIED. 
 

unchained

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It can be a struggle to find your way through the maze of PMO addiction.  I know too well how it felt to want to stay away from porn but was in constant anxiety about whether the erection would work or not.  My advise to you is this...if you want to heal, truly heal, then cut out the porn... completely.  The fact you didn't MO is great, but porn is the poison that is ruining your erection.

It doesn't matter what the stimulus is, if it's anything other than being with your wife it is training your brain to get turned on by things other than her.  Fastest way to heal is to relax, stay away from porn and make her your only sexual outlet.  I understand that it is easier said than done, believe me when I say I wish I had taken my own advise countless times, but it is the truth.
 

evinced

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Thanks Unchained.  Agreed that I need to stay away completely even if I didn't PMO. It really didn't feel like that much of a success that I didn't masturbate since I felt just as anxious afterwards as if I had.  I thought quitting cigarettes was one of the hardest things I had ever done. I guess that was until now and trying to go cold turkey with porn.  I know I can beat this though especially with the help of this site and YBOP etc.

 

evinced

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Another day down and it's been interesting physically and emotionally. Every so often the minds wanders to thought about porn but more often it's a thought like, I wonder if my erection works?  When the realization the I was experiencing PIED and that I could not longer reliably get an erection especially when trying to have sex with my wife was when things hit bottom for me.  Since I started on this path of rebooting I find that I what I think about the most or worry about the most is whether things will return to some sense of normality again ranging from being able to perform with my wife, get MW or aroused without watching or thinking of porn.  Many days I realize I don't feel "horny" like I thought I did when I was masturbating daily to porn.  That itch that needed to be scratched is absent most days.  But the desire for the ego boost from knowing that the equipment is working or capable of working seems to on my mind throughout the day.  When I was younger I was fairly sexually active and porn was an infrequent part of my life but masturbation was there to fill in the dry spells. It wasn't until I was in 2 long term relationships for the  22+ years that porn became the filler for the eventually lulls in sex in most long term relationships.  But all along the way I always knew I could rely on being able to perform.  That was until the last 7-8 years where porn use became so much more prevalent and the times where things didn't work were starting to occur.  At least I now have the information to understand what was going on in my brain and my body chemistry and from reading peoples journals and success stories I see that there is hope for recovery.  I just have to temper my impatience and desire for some "proof" that things are on the right track and not use porn to see that my dick works again. At least I have last weekend where I was able to perform with my wife, albeit it only for a short time before I finished, and I didn't lose my erection during sex..  One data point and hoping for more to come as my recovery progresses.
 

evinced

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Well I made it through the weekend, for the most part.  In the process of deleting porn from my computer on Saturday I ended up watching a bit before deleting.  Fortunately I didn't PMO but felts a noticeable anxiety response after viewing the porn.  Definitely something I recall from before this process of rebooting started.  Woke up Sunday feeling some spike in libido and some partial MW and ended up MO but without any fantasy or porn.  Overall trying to go with MO for awhile as well but at least I didn't PMO.
 

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Guess its time for round 4.  Not going to beat myself up, I made it 21 days this time and all is not lost at least it is progress.  Going to try for the Hard 30 and ultimately 90 days.  Pretty sure the occasional MO without porn wasn't helping me out.
 

evinced

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Nice to see positive numbers on my counter again.  Was really in a bad mood yesterday, had a sexual dream before I woke and was in a funk all day.  Feeling much better today and glad to be back on track again.  Doing my best to remember that keeping MO in the routing my first few attempts was not helping, nor was my desire to test the equipment for some sort of reinforcement that the process was working.  This time my plan is to only O with my wife.  Here's to sticking to the plan.
 
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