The Renewing of my Mind

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Boo

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Chip,

Branch quit. I just posted in his journal in case he reads it. ( I know you've shown interest in his journey )

You're really doing the mental work to figure things out about yourself. I applaud it. We all have to find a way to fight the fight and you're doing that. Don't quit brother. Remember, a lapse is not a relapse. Never give a slip more power than it deserves. Streaks.Streaks.Streaks. Get better over time. It works if you do the work. It doesn't happen on it's own. You can and you will get better. I believe in you


 

Bo1968

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Thank you Chip for your story. I wasn't sure how to write mine, but yours makes sense and follows a very similar path. My faith is absolutely what sustains me, and I support your battle. I am going to start setting goals today! thank you.
 
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Chip

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May 21, 2016

Having a good productive weekend.  The wife is on call at the hospital so I won't see her till Monday.  With free time and energy I rearranged my office and in between rain showers squeaked in some yard work.  I was gonna wait to update Monday as promised, but got on here and thought I give a shout out to my crew.  I heard from Branch, he sent me an email and seems to be doing good.

Chip
 
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I'm hoping your weekend went well while your wife was gone. It's a great confidence builder to get through a challenging situation when you know you would have been more vulnerable in times past. Your activities sounded similar to mine this weekend. Glad you heard from Branch and that he's doing well.
 
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Chip

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May, 24 2016

So far so good, been keeping busy and haven't had much in the way of withdrawals that I've noticed.  For me its usually starts to ramp up around 18-21 days, that's why I have 2 counters, the first reminds me to be aware of whats to come.  I'm also making another attempt at a 5 day water fast starting today, since I've been so focused on RN getting my spiritual fitness in check I decided I'd start working on my physical fitness as well.  I started one of these a couple of weeks ago, but was cut short by an unexpected funeral and then Mothers Day.  It was just too many questions to try and explain to every single person.  So after 2-1/2 days I went back to eating and drinking and then rescheduled for a time I wouldn't have to deal with so many folks about it.  I've had the occasional thought try and enter my consciousness, but I've been refusing to play with them, even in the slightest.  It definitely has helped having my prize possession on the line to make me draw a hard and fast line.  I'm more focused, more determined and not playing the victim. 

For a long time I think I was acting like a victim in regards to how hard I really was trying resist.  In those moment when the thoughts would come, I had 2 minds.  On the one hand I was, "interested" in being free of PMO, but I think in reality I was hoping some how, some way that someone else would just take it away from me.  Then on the other hand I enjoyed what I was looking at and doing, I mean it does have a degree of pleasure associated with it.  So, in my own evaluation, I lacked the hardcore determination to resist, I didn't want it bad enough.  This whole journey has forced me to look deeper at myself, who I am?  What do I really stand for?  I'm troubled in the thought that, if my prize possession wasn't on the table as a wager, I'd probably go right back to my old behavior...  I have to say that saddens me, but I'm hoping that the further I get away from P, that maybe my brain will heal, maybe my determination will grow stronger in the absence of perpetual dopamine hits.  I'm thinking that what might be best, is to start laying the groundwork for newer healthier habits to replace the old ones.  I still have the occasional urge to write, but my creativity at the moment is low, I guess that is associated with withdrawal, which is a good thing.  I guess, as I sit hear pondering & rambling that I'm kinda in a blank place in between.  I'm not the guy I was, pleasuring myself with every urge and impulse.  I'm also not yet the man I want to be, I'm in between. 

The ship has pushed back from the dock and the crew has thrown off the lines.  Below us the water is calm, black and ominous, a moonless night be sure.  The only light can be seen from the lighthouse beaming out, like a luminous sword cutting the night with its continuous swath.  A breeze blows with a slight chill an all that can be heard is the water slapping and splashing against the hull as the captain maneuvers the ship and brings the ole girl about.  As we turn away from the shore, away from all that we've known we face an open sea, a not yet knowable future.  The Captain calls the engine room, "All ahead 1/3" and with that the propellers spin to life.  The black water swirls and foams behind us, we feel the thrust forward as we begin to build momentum, a few scared souls dive over rail, choosing to stay behind.  We turn our gaze to the horizon, but no matter how hard we strain to see our destination, its still yet to far off to know.  We give the occasional glance back to shore, the known and the old ways waving to us as we move further from shore.  We hear the calls, "Don't go, don't go, stay here with us", but we must go, we must make our escape.  Some of us hear the sirens call and dive back in, swimming back to the old world.  No, not us, no more of the old world, we must focus on the new, so again we look ahead.  As we clear the light house and harbor the Captain again calls the engine room, "All ahead 2/3".  Fearing the unknown a few more hands abandon the ship, swimming foolishly back to the port, swimming back to the shore, choosing instead to live in the past, with the old, the dying, the sick, the hopeless.  Not us, No not us, we brave few press on, weary souls be sure, but we press on.  With a firm and steady grip on the rail, we strain ever harder to try and see our destination, but its still a far off, but we have faith the Captain knows the way.  Just then, the tiniest flicker of light breaks through and flickers on the horizon.  It is the sun rising, a new day is begun and soon it will shine warmly on our faces and beyond that a new world.  Onward to victory, onward to freedom, onward to a new life. 

Who's with me?
 
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Chip

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May 26, 2016

As I close in on my 21 day threshold I thought I'd re-post the wisdom of William that I have found inspirational and true.  As I go into this weekend, my wife is on call again so she won't be home the next couple of days so I'm gonna take some extra caution and really dial down my web use.  Also I've added emphasis to the hot points.  Below is a link to his journal documenting his path to freedom.

Chip

"Hello Gentlemen, Now we begin" - http://legacy.rebootnation.org/index.php?topic=1256.0


William said:
You see, Gentlemen, there are two types of guys here. I only have something to say for one type;
 
The first type(Don't be this guy) is the guy who understands porn is a problem for him, but who wants to control it, to cut back, but, to keep it in his life.  That type is an alcoholic who likes to keep a bottle in the house, even if it is not opened, and is on the top shelf pushed way back.  He is an alcoholic in denial, and sooner or later, he is going on a binge.  The first type suffers from hubris and arrogance, and ignorance.

The second type is the guy who has accepted porn controls him, that he cannot control porn, but that porn has come to control him.  The second type will overcome his porn addiction through humility, knowledge, and suffering--the suffering is only for a relatively short time.  Knowing he cannot keep porn in his life and control it, he has committed to deleting it from his life, and thus controlling his life again.  I am in the second group.  Porn no longer controls my life because I know that with porn in my life, porn controlled me.  I now control my life.  For those of you who are or wish to be in the second group, I invite you to this side of the line.  For the rest, you have much love from me, and I wish you all the happiness you can have relapsing, every two or three days, for the next 60 or 70 years. 


Now we begin. 
 
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Boo

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Outstanding work on finding tools and instruction that inspires you to get where you want to go. William is a champion of rebooting, no doubt. I'm certain you'll become one too, in time. Stay well Bro.
 

Erasmus_xlt

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You're absolutely right.  I did read someone else's blog right before yours and confused myself.  Thank you for the correction.
 
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Chip

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Erasmus_xlt said:
You're absolutely right.  I did read someone else's blog right before yours and confused myself.  Thank you for the correction.
Thank you for your concern and always feel free to check in on me, I invite it.  I see God working in you and I think your wife will see it too, in time.

Today is the anniversary of sorts of my last 2 falls, one at 18 days and the other at 19 days, so I'm in my danger zone of sorts.  As many of you know I've made a bold move and put some skin in the game.  I have to say, I wish I'd come across this idea, for this type of motivation a long time ago.  Before I implemented this strategy and it was just an idea, I felt kinda fearful and reluctant to do it.  What if I fall again?  30+ years of work would be lost, unrecoverable.  For me it came down to asking myself some tough questions;

"What is the measure of my resolve?"

For a long time I understood(from a christian perspective) that my motivation, my desire should solely be, "to bring glory to God and be a good and faithful servant" and that this desire alone should be enough for me to succeed.  This was immature folly on my part.  Now that I'm older, more experienced and honestly reading my Bible more, I know that trying to just stand their, essentially naked without utilizing the tools scripture advocates for dealing with sin, is just foolish and unnecessary.  I believe using this technique is in keeping with scripture.  I openly give God all the glory, the credit, my thankfulness and praise for showing me what I needed to do.  At first it felt like I was betting on my own strength to accomplish this, but what I've realized is that I put my sacrifice into God's hands, I trusted Him to deal with me and heal me, to deliver me.  Now I'm not talking about praying a prayer and hoping for a good outcome, I'm doing my part too.  The scripture says, "Faith without works is dead" I realize that is talking about things like helping the poor, feeding the hungry and housing the widows and orphans, but I took it to mean also that I have things I'm responsible for, too.
 
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Chip

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May 28, 2016

Feeling good, got a lot to do today so I won't say much.  I'd like to thank all my friends that have encouraged me and helped me get back to this point.

Branch
Boo
Malando
Bo1968
William (My Mentor)
FYG
TK-421
Hopesprings
and many, many more.





:mad: No Mercy! - No Quarter! - No Half Measures! :mad:
 

fyg

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Dear Chip,

I've just read your journal, bar the re-post of William's advice that I will go back and read. Like I will go back and read Dr. Amy Johnson's points from Leon's post... Anyway. Thank you so much, brother, for sharing your journey so far, as you have. What a fantastic read. Also, I think you were right, we have similarities... From reading your earlier posts, I'd say many. I don't need to go back and re-read to correlate, I just felt it.

The way Boo helped you out and pushed you on in your earlier posts was fantastic, correct me if I'm wrong. Though, of course, it is your own work that's got you to where you are now. It seems you're in a good place, with your vision looking forward and that is real good to read!

Your journal brought up lots of food-for-thought for me, which I'll address later in my own posts :)

Re: your post #24... And allow me to bring up a previous post, I hate doing this, as for me, this really is about moving forward; though that said, again for me (tut - rolls eyes), reflection is part of this process, and being able to reflect in the midst of the 'battle' can only improve strength... but when you mentioned that you were saddened by having to implement the wager to put your goal on-the-line. I understood. Though...
but I'm hoping that the further I get away from P, that maybe my brain will heal, maybe my determination will grow stronger in the absence of perpetual dopamine hits
- I think you're right, brother.

Let's do this! To close, I think Boo is right too, in that the Why? is what will bring the real long-term understanding that will make a recovery, final. If finality is even possible? Maybe a level of vigilance will always be required, like I think William has mentioned before, I think. I could live with that. I have an old addiction (that wasn't crippling, but gave me a slight limp) to 'gamblers' or gambling machines, or one-armed-bandits; what I think you guys call 'the slots'. I see them now-and-again, and they try to sing to me, but I ignore their very, very dull siren call (ref'ing your great poetic and lyrical post of the 'ship setting sail', and to one of my own posts ;)]

I'm with you, dude. I'm also humbled that I've helped you thus far, as well as the many others. Fantastic. Also, apologies for not looking in sooner.

Okay, well, I'm gonna sign off for now.


Cheers and massive Respect!
 
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Chip said:
May 28, 2016

Feeling good, got a lot to do today so I won't say much.  I'd like to thank all my friends that have encouraged me and helped me get back to this point.

Branch
Boo
Malando
Bo1968
William (My Mentor)
FYG
TK-421
Hopesprings
and many, many more.





:mad: No Mercy! - No Quarter! - No Half Measures! :mad:

Hey Chip,

Congrats on this streak. Glad you're doing well. I looked by at your journal and realized how much I've posted here. I'm hoping some of it has resonated and been helpful. I didn't want to give up on you when you were sounding like you wanted to give up on yourself a few times early on.

Once when the late ,great Jim Rohn was giving a talk to a junior high class , he asked the class if they knew what the definition of "Resolve" was. There were a few answers here and there but they mostly missed the mark, but then a little girl in the back raised her hand and said, "Mr. Rohn, I think I know". Jim said "what is it?". She said "Resolve means promising yourself you'll never give up". Jim Rohn said that was one of the best answers he'd ever heard.

Promise yourself you'll never give up.

Be Blessed.
 
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Chip

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Having a great Weekend, taking everything in stride.  My mother is having health issues mainly caused by my father being a hoarder and cheap, so that has me concerned and haven't really figured out how to help the situation.  My mothers health has never been great, she has Epilepsy, Hypoglycemia and quite a list of allergies, but through shear determination she still works at 72.  My father on the other hand had reasonable health until they forced him to take early retirement back in 1993 at the age of 55.  After that he had heart issues, but has lived way longer than predicted.  He had 7 bypasses to start things off, then 7 years later had 3 stints put in, 5 years after that 2 more stints.  After the final round of stints they said that was all they could do for him and that was 8 years ago.  His dad died in 1990 and then his mother passed in 2005 and following those events he seemed depressed to all of us, but he refused to take the meds they prescribed.  I've never met another person so dead set on being right about things even when he is obviously wrong. 

Right now my parents house is divided in two, the upstairs and the basement.  The basement is his domain and it is full of well...  Trash.  Not like garbage, but junk mail, old magazines, old books, random furniture and assorted crap.  This was fine for many years because only he went down there, but about 5 or 6 years ago it flooded the entire basement.  We had the "Serv-Pro" peeps come in and do cleanup, but when they wanted to remove his, "Good stuff" because they knew it wood grow mold, he balked and refused.  Later he moved some of the worst of it to a storage building he erected on his property(one of several), but the mold has continued to grow and the smell has begun to invade the upstairs and cause my mother to have Asthma.  I know this has nothing to do with RN or PMO, but it is a stress'r for me.  Just needed to express it outside my head.  I'm not feeling any urges, so that's promising.

Thank you to all the Vets on here for your service, whether you saw combat or not, you signed up and were ready to fight.
 

malando

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That does sound stressful, Chip. Mould can be a very pernicious thing. You'll probably have to clear the whole area out and get it professionally cleaned out and repainted with a mould-resistant paint if it's advanced this far. This is not something your father should be in charge of - it's dangerous to his health too. Hope you can get it sorted as it's affecting both your parents. I used to hoard a lot of stuff when I was single. I understand the mentality. Since my family came along though, I've learned to let go of a lot of stuff that I'll never use again. It can be hard, and if your father has been a hoarder all his life, it will need to get pretty uncomfortable to change his ways - that includes graphic threats about the risk it poses to your mother's (and his) health. Also mention how it's damaging their property and devaluing it. Once mould takes hold, you have to treat it aggressively or it makes its way through the whole house. Then you have to move out to treat it properly. You can't just lock a mould problem in the basement and expect it to stay there.

I'm sure you know all this, Chip. I'm just trying to help with things you could say to get your father moving on this series issue.

Best wishes, M.
 

TK-421

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Chip said:
May 28, 2016

Feeling good, got a lot to do today so I won't say much.  I'd like to thank all my friends that have encouraged me and helped me get back to this point.

Branch
Boo
Malando
Bo1968
William (My Mentor)
FYG
TK-421
Hopesprings
and many, many more.





:mad: No Mercy! - No Quarter! - No Half Measures! :mad:

Thanks for the shout out! Glad we're all here to support each other in the common goal of being better, happier men and being porn free
 
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malando said:
That does sound stressful, Chip. Mould can be a very pernicious thing. You'll probably have to clear the whole area out and get it professionally cleaned out and repainted with a mould-resistant paint if it's advanced this far. This is not something your father should be in charge of - it's dangerous to his health too. Hope you can get it sorted as it's affecting both your parents. I used to hoard a lot of stuff when I was single. I understand the mentality. Since my family came along though, I've learned to let go of a lot of stuff that I'll never use again. It can be hard, and if your father has been a hoarder all his life, it will need to get pretty uncomfortable to change his ways - that includes graphic threats about the risk it poses to your mother's (and his) health. Also mention how it's damaging their property and devaluing it. Once mould takes hold, you have to treat it aggressively or it makes its way through the whole house. Then you have to move out to treat it properly. You can't just lock a mould problem in the basement and expect it to stay there.

I'm sure you know all this, Chip. I'm just trying to help with things you could say to get your father moving on this series issue.

Best wishes, M.
Well that's the kicker, reason and logic just don't work.  If you press him on it he gets really angry and that's not good for his heart.  I don't know what I'm gonna do, he doesnt believe there is a mold issue, well he refuses to believe it, because he knows it means throwing things away.  There maybe 99 things pointing directly to a mold issue, but if he can find 1 that doesn't, then you lose the argument in his mind.  His homes value is plummeting and he'd rather be surrounded by moldy magazines from when he worked for the Southern Company as an electrical engineer.  My mom went to the allergists last week to see what was causing her breathing problems and during the questions about her environment, he would lie so they wouldn't know the house is an issue.  He swore up and down it was a perfume problem, even though my mom hasn't worn any in decades.  The results came back mold, so he's agreed to install a high tech filtration system, but not address the problem.  Anyway, its keeping me up, but at least I'm not PMO'ing.
 

malando

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Chip said:
malando said:
That does sound stressful, Chip. Mould can be a very pernicious thing. You'll probably have to clear the whole area out and get it professionally cleaned out and repainted with a mould-resistant paint if it's advanced this far. This is not something your father should be in charge of - it's dangerous to his health too. Hope you can get it sorted as it's affecting both your parents. I used to hoard a lot of stuff when I was single. I understand the mentality. Since my family came along though, I've learned to let go of a lot of stuff that I'll never use again. It can be hard, and if your father has been a hoarder all his life, it will need to get pretty uncomfortable to change his ways - that includes graphic threats about the risk it poses to your mother's (and his) health. Also mention how it's damaging their property and devaluing it. Once mould takes hold, you have to treat it aggressively or it makes its way through the whole house. Then you have to move out to treat it properly. You can't just lock a mould problem in the basement and expect it to stay there.

I'm sure you know all this, Chip. I'm just trying to help with things you could say to get your father moving on this series issue.

Best wishes, M.
Well that's the kicker, reason and logic just don't work.  If you press him on it he gets really angry and that's not good for his heart.  I don't know what I'm gonna do, he doesnt believe there is a mold issue, well he refuses to believe it, because he knows it means throwing things away.  There maybe 99 things pointing directly to a mold issue, but if he can find 1 that doesn't, then you lose the argument in his mind.  His homes value is plummeting and he'd rather be surrounded by moldy magazines from when he worked for the Southern Company as an electrical engineer.  My mom went to the allergists last week to see what was causing her breathing problems and during the questions about her environment, he would lie so they wouldn't know the house is an issue.  He swore up and down it was a perfume problem, even though my mom hasn't worn any in decades.  The results came back mold, so he's agreed to install a high tech filtration system, but not address the problem.  Anyway, its keeping me up, but at least I'm not PMO'ing.
I hear you about the frustrating logic of elderly parents. The car I'm having trouble with now used to belong to my mother. I had noticed a strange sound in the engine for many years before I took it over, and often asked her if she was going to get it checked out. She never did. Now I'm having trouble with it and she's convinced herself that the sound is new and it's there because I didn't look after the car the way she did. Got absolutely nowhere dissuading her from this opinion. Sigh...
 
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malando said:
I hear you about the frustrating logic of elderly parents. The car I'm having trouble with now used to belong to my mother. I had noticed a strange sound in the engine for many years before I took it over, and often asked her if she was going to get it checked out. She never did. Now I'm having trouble with it and she's convinced herself that the sound is new and it's there because I didn't look after the car the way she did. Got absolutely nowhere dissuading her from this opinion. Sigh...
Sorry Dude,  I get that a lot too.  "It wasn't like that when I used it..."  :eek:  Have a good week.

Been an up & down day, the stress of my parents kept me up most of the night and I have to confess, today I had the urge to MO.  The thought came and went a few times, but I let the sleeping dog lie, pun intended.  Dove into work this morning and distracted myself with the market and in the back of my mind was hoping for a little afternoon delight when my wife got home.  She calls at 7:15am saying she's headed back home, vomiting and very sick.  So no gymnastics tonight and I guess I'm sleeping on the couch too, because I don't want any part of this bug.  Spent the rest of the day wiping down door handles and knobs with a clorox wipe.  Did score a couple of good option Call trades on "Sonic" today.
 
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Hey Chip,

I hope your wife recovers from her illness as quickly as possible. (and that you don't get sick!)

So sorry about all the stressful stuff you're dealing with right now. We're having great difficulty with my mother-in-law, so I feel your pain. Elderly people don't want to feel like they're losing any independence in making decisions for themselves and can be really stubborn about things.

I'm praying that you stay strong and receive some grace in this situation. Peace.
 
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Chip

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Boo said:
Hey Chip,

I hope your wife recovers from her illness as quickly as possible. (and that you don't get sick!)

So sorry about all the stressful stuff you're dealing with right now. We're having great difficulty with my mother-in-law, so I feel your pain. Elderly people don't want to feel like they're losing any independence in making decisions for themselves and can be really stubborn about things.

I'm praying that you stay strong and receive some grace in this situation. Peace.
Thanks Boo,

Ended up being like a 48 hour bug.  Nothing resolved with my parents yet, but I'm feeling good and just trying to let it roll off.  Thanks for checking in.
 
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