Broccolini's diary

Thanks again, PE. :)

Day 25
Still feeling fairly social and joking around a lot with workmates today.  We had to go for a long boring meeting and I ended up sitting next to ?Fiona?.  The chairs were packed in quite closely and so we were sitting quite near each other.  The presenter made some comment about how the people from one department had been very upset by something that had happened, and I leaned over and whispered ?do they need a hug?? To Fiona as a joke.  She didn?t hear me properly and I spent the next forty minutes feeling extremely awkward and hoping she didn?t think I said ?Do you need a hug??  :S  This is the sort of thing that always happens with me and it?s part of the reason I became so social phobic in the first place.  Anyway I made sure I clarified that afterwards and all is well.

Day 26
Grumpy and agitated today.  Not sure why.  When I was walking around the city I was constantly looking out for fetish things; very hard to control my eyes.  Interestingly though it felt more like a deeply ingrained habit and less like a painful compulsion.

My mood wasn?t helped by what happened in the afternoon.  I told the girl on the dating site that she wasn?t my type, basically, in a nice way (or so I thought?)  Then I got back a two line reply that was basically a polite tantrum.  I couldn?t reply to it because she had deleted her profile.  I know it?s not really my problem but I can?t help but feel lousy for seemingly upsetting her.  She must have got her hopes up as well.  Gaaaah I hate upsetting women.  It?s the worst thing in the world.  At least if she had left her profile up I could have tried to cheer her up in some way.  Not trying to draw a halo over my own head or anything but sometimes I really am too compassionate towards others and take their sufferings upon myself - especially women.  Other times I can be a complete bastard though, lol.
One positive though: while it was a bad experience, it kind of just felt like a toothpick in my heart or something.  It didn?t crush me or send me into a depressive cycle like it probably would have previously.
At night an online friend send me a POV pic of her lounging around, showing her bare legs (and they happen to be very nice legs).  My reaction was basically ?gaaaaaaaaaaaaa? *pinch to zoom in* .... *delete*.  I looked for about 3 seconds.  It?s really good to know that my anti-porn instincts took over automatically instead of my former lustful instincts.  Great sign of progress!

Day 27 - (Wow!!  Can?t believe I?m nearly at 4 weeks !!!)
Still feeling a bit grumpy.  Definitely nothing like the highs of last Sunday.  But not like the lows of the Sunday before that, so I really shouldn?t be complaining.  Was still looking out for fetish things and found some a couple of times, but it didn?t really do anything for me.  It fees kind of like I?m flatlining, like I?m not really responding to stimuli, but I still have the compulsion to seek it out.  At least it?s not the uncontrollable excruciating hair-tearing compulsion it used to be.  Now it just feels like a sharp pain that?s very annoying rather than something that?s eating away at my entire brain and soul.

Funny thing is, after years of being certain that I was at the very extreme end of introversion, I think now that I?m actually an extreme extrovert.  Sounds like a weird mistake to make but if you go by the definition that extroverts get energised by socialising, then that would be me.  Because I?m alone on the weekends I tend to feel lower on those days?  Plus I?m not a bookworm who?s happy just to keep to themselves - I?ve always been a bit of a show-off and love attention as long as I?m certain that it?s good attention.  On group chats online or at work I?m always the life of the party.  I think it?s just a severe confidence issue more than anything.

Another thing I?ve found interesting throughout this reboot, which has never happened before, is that when I feel those surges of sexual energy they seem to have been much more balanced - i.e. All over my body, including the chest/heart, not just stuck in my groin making me as horny as all heck.  Feeling that loving energy in the heart seems to be what makes healthy sexual activity vs. Unhealthy.  Obviously when you?re looking at porn there?s no emotional connection to the person at all, so your heart doesn?t get involved - just your groin. 

I think this is the whole reason why they make those ridiculous porn movies that actually have a plot - because when you get to know the characters first before seeing them engage in unspeakable acts, it helps to simulate that feeling of knowing and caring about a person, which then makes the unspeakable acts all the more pleasurable.  Or at least, that?s the theory.  It doesn?t really work when your plot?s so bad even Dan Brown is pointing out the holes and the acting almost makes you think Jack Black could headline at the Royal Shakespeare Company.

I won't bother going into details but in addition to the dating site girl, I had 2 arguments with 2 different friends this weekend (internet friends, since that?s pretty much my entire social life).  In the first argument I was able to keep calm and even laugh at times.  In the second argument I just tried to explain myself, then said I had to go.  I don?t think our friendship can recover from that one.  But I feel OK anyway.  So there?s the proof that this makes you more emotionally resilient.  At most I feel a mild sense of disappointment, and a bit of fear about any further confrontations we might have, but nothing more.
 
Day 28

I made it to 4 weeks...Just... But this was undoubtedly the worst day of the reboot so far.

I felt like I had been poisoned all day, my mind was a complete blur.  And when I woke up it felt like my pants were on fire, such was my desire to copulate with anything female, human and of legal age I came in contact with.  It was a complete crash from the highs of the past couple of weeks.  I guess I was also a bit upset about the friend I had the argument with too, so I wasn?t quite as unfazed as I initially thought.  The good part is we did sort that out.  The bad part is I looked at "porn" for about 2 minutes.  It was just two search queries, looking at a few of the pics (really just fetish stuff - wasn't looking for nudity, there was only one pic that involved nudity and it was so weird that it did nothing for me anyway)..  I wish I could say that I just looked up straight vanilla stuff but it was actually one of the mildly weird things I got into just before I started rebooting (although not the really, really weird stuff, which I still can?t understand why I looked at back then.)

The thought did cross my mind to go home and binge because ?you don?t lose all your progress, so it?s OK.?  But what made me stop was remembering the past two weeks, how good they were, and how easy the process has been so far.  It has never been like this in my previous attempts and may never be like this again, so this may be my only chance.

Anyway I closed the page pretty quickly once I?d satiated my curiosity.  It didn't do much for me really.  I was still in control, which is a big change from the past, where seeing anything porn or pornish would make me physically shake and sweat, then lose all control.

It did bring back some other hair-tearingly frustrating flashbacks of other porn scenes afterwards and made me want to look up some other fetishes, but I didn't.  Feeling better now, although still in a fairly shitty mood. Less disappointed by the slip than I am by my positive 2 weeks coming to an end.  Not resetting my day counter for the slip because it was only a minor one, and the blurry zombie mind probably made me a little less culpable anyway (but not entirely of course).
 

PE30

Well-Known Member
Hey, sorry to hear about the slip up. I think you're probably right to keep the counter at day 28 as you neither properly indulged in it nor MO'd, but I think you need to consider two things. Firstly, what are you going to do over the next few days to stop this developing into a full relapse? It's easy to convince yourself that you might as well just relapse properly, but you don't need that. You've been doing amazingly.

Secondly, consider that this 'blip' may have been triggered by the low mood arising from the arguments you had over the weekend. Consider: what is going to be your method of calming down next time your mood dips? Take a walk, do a puzzle, punch a punchbag, but don't be satisfied with porn.

You're doing so well, keep it up and make some decisions at the start of today to bounce back. It's within you :)
 
Thanks, PE.  Good advice!

Day 29
Nothing much to report today.  Things back to normal - no need for asbestos underpants today.  Mind still a complete and utter blur; don't know what's going on here.  Very difficult to be social and confident when you feel like this.  Even though I don't feel like I'm on the brink of a full-on relapse I decided I'm going to reset my day counter tomorrow.  The only purpose of a counter is a psychological device anyway and I think it would help me to start anew at the beginning of the month and take things even more seriously this time.  Main area I need to focus on is improving my eyes as lately I've been congratulating myself for my progress and indulging my eyes a lot in public because (so my brain seems to think) "You're doing really well, urges mainly under control, so therefore it's OK to look."  :p  No it isn't!

Day 1 begins tomorrow!
 
Oh whoops, it's not even the beginning of the month yet.  Oh well, close enough!  By the way, a thought just occurred to me - in case anyone's suspicious and thinks this reset is caused by some additional fall that I'm too ashamed to admit, no, it isn't.  I just want to be able to cross off 90 days+ and know that it was legit, not "90 days with a few slips" or whatever.  While still knowing that I had a good 30 days behind me prior to that. 

Day 1
I said I was going to control my eyes today.  So of course the girl that sits opposite me came in wearing a very pretty dress that shows off her perfectly sculpted behind... And another girl that often does things that appeal to my fetishes was doing it a lot today.  It's very hard to control your eyes when girls are around you doing things that are almost as appealing as full-on nudity.

Anyway, still back to normal.  Strong urges but not for porn.  The desire seems to be fading away even more.
 
Day 2
Had a session with my Body Code/Emotion code practitioner last night and we finally cleared my heart wall!  :)  For those of you who have no idea what I?m talking about but are interested, here?s a link:

https://www.healerslibrary.com/heart-wall/

The result was that all day I felt a sense of love for everyone in my chest.  It was subtle most of the time and I?d been feeling a bit more this way anyway since I cut out PMO, but there was a noticeable difference.  Sometimes it was an almost intense feeling and seemed to flow throughout my body, making me feel very happy and positive.  It was also very hard to look ?Fiona? in the eyes or have her come into my personal space without feeling something there.  Kinda hope that doesn?t get too strong, since the purpose of all sexual attraction is marriage for me, not a one night stand or ?a relationship?; and it?s difficult to imagine we?d be compatible in marriage.

Anyway, in a good mood all day, sometimes approaching the highs of that Sunday a couple of weeks ago when I felt at my best.  Feeling connected to others makes such a difference to my mood!

Still finding it difficult to control my eyes.  Especially when girls have lovely sculpted figures and show them off.  :( gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

But as I mentioned last week, my attraction has returned to a balanced state where I can feel it in my groin and chest, not just my groin.  It?s an enjoyable sort of agony.
 
Hi, thanks for checking in PE30.  :) Has been a difficult couple of weeks, especially this week.  I think it all started when I had the complete brain blur at the beginning of last week.  It doesn?t seem to have gone away. I normally feel blurry and tired anyway but that made things much worse and helped caused my first slip.  Then this past weekend I had only 4 hours sleep on Saturday because I had to get up early to drive someone to the airport.  In the afternoon I felt very restless - usual for a Sunday afternoon - and started having cuddle fantasies.  Was very tired and not fully aware of what I was doing.  There was no M but it ended in O anyway.  Then Monday night, due to my carelessness in not blocking out the internet at home, as well as due to still being super tired from Saturday night - I looked at fetish stuff for about 10 minutes (no nudity) and had another O without M.  I feel like most of my positivity has drained away now and it has been difficult keeping the motivation to continue.  During my high period I had a smile on my face by default but now I just feel drained and tired all the time. 

Porn is actually tempting me again, although my resolve is stronger than it was before I started this, for sure.  Anyway, I took a few emergency steps.  I realized that I was looking at real-world fetish stuff as a crutch as my brain tried desperately to deal with the lack of porn in my life.  So I made some promises to God for the next few days only (intending to renew them).  Basically I will donate a certain amount of extra money to charity if I go out of my way to look at fetish things, if I have cuddle fantasies (or any fantasy) or if I look at porn.  I?ve made these sort of promises before and they work to prevent certain behavior as long as you only make them for a few days  Working well so far - 2 days into my new streak and, while I?m still feeling the pull of porn, my brain instantly says ?I?m not paying $500 for that!?  I think it's going to be a few weeks until I get back to where I was though.

Oh and Fiona asked me out.  I said no.  :p
 

happysad

Active Member
She asked you out?

It takes guts for a girl to do that. If a girl asks me out, I almost always say yes. I mean, flirting is fine and all but really getting to know someone can be much more interesting, even if it doesn't transform into anything more.

Anyway, good luck with the reboot.
 
Yeah, I only get involved with people if they're good marriage material.  She's attractive and fun but not my type for marriage so I'd rather not give her any false impressions by accepting when it's not going to go anywhere.
 
Georgos said:
Hi Broccolini, what's wrong with cuddle fantasies?

What?s wrong with cuddle fantasies? 
1)Often leads to sexual thoughts
2)Inflames desire
3)Usually experienced while lying down/stressed etc. Which can lead to MO or in my case just O without M
4)Encourages the brain to continue to derive pleasure from fantasy instead of from the real world
5)Encourages the pattern of self-medication instead of confronting and dealing with issues

Day 4
That feeling of sexual energy is creeping back in a bit, which is a good sign I guess.  Much quicker to recover from 2 Os than from a major fapping binge.

Seriously guys, what the hell is flatline?  I?ve never flatlined or suffered from low libido.  There?s barely a moment of my existence when I didn?t wish I had selective female x-ray glasses and wish I could furiously pound anything female, human and legal.  Anyone else experience this?  Does flatline eventually come?  I WISH it would!  Why do guys complain about it?!
 
happysad said:
ok, I'll bite.

what's your definition of good marriage material? honestly curious.

Not trying to bait anyone.  It involves a number of complicated factors, most of which you probably won't agree with.  But ultimately it comes down to - can I see myself spending the rest of my life with this person?
 

Georgos

Well-Known Member
broccolini said:
Georgos said:
Hi Broccolini, what's wrong with cuddle fantasies?

What?s wrong with cuddle fantasies? 
1)Often leads to sexual thoughts
2)Inflames desire
3)Usually experienced while lying down/stressed etc. Which can lead to MO or in my case just O without M
4)Encourages the brain to continue to derive pleasure from fantasy instead of from the real world
5)Encourages the pattern of self-medication instead of confronting and dealing with issues
I agree cuddling should not be associated with MO to an extent. Cuddling is a natural act of affection and should remain so. The problem with MO is too often it is about control, cuddling should be mutual, not something that you impose by yourself. I think at some point you are going to have to deal with this, you need to be able to engage with cuddling in a healthy way, even as part of making love, perhaps the key here is the difference between cuddling and cuddle [/I]fantasies[/I]. Mindfulness with regards to fantasies as well as abstaining from MO is probably the best way to reach a healthy balance. Good luck.
 

happysad

Active Member
broccolini said:
Not trying to bait anyone.  It involves a number of complicated factors, most of which you probably won't agree with.  But ultimately it comes down to - can I see myself spending the rest of my life with this person?

Oh I don't mean you were baiting or anything. It doesn't even matter if I agree with you or not, it's natural everyone has some different idea of marriage material. I was curious what's yours.
 
Hi all!  Thanks for checking in, PE.  Was just about to reappear.  So I had a proper fall nearly 2 weeks ago now, followed by a chaser 2 days later, and then the day after.  I was too ashamed to come back on here until now.

Day 8:
Brain still a complete blur.  I really wonder what is wrong with me, I seem to be getting sicker and sicker.  :(  Feeling the sexual energy again a bit today; still very tempted by fetish things at work.  We had a team lunch and I got frustrated because I ended up sitting on the outer and being ignored by everyone, as always.  Just doesn?t seem to matter how much extra confidence I have on paper; it rarely comes out at the right moments.  The best I can do is fake it on occasions.
There?s no doubt that even with that fairly big fall, I didn?t lose all of my progress.  Maybe I reset my sexual energy back to zero but the habits I developed during my successful 5 weeks of abstinence are just getting stronger.  Desire for porn is minimal at the moment.  My moods are much more stable.  I used to be extremely irritable about the smallest things but now I'm much less so.

If I can spin this positively, I know now what it feels like to have a fall after a good streak and hopefully I'll see that next time I'm tempted.  It also reminds me that in those moments when you feel invincible, you're not really.
 

PE30

Well-Known Member
Well done for dusting yourself off and starting again. You're quite right, you're not at the same point as you were before you started this journey. Hopefully you can learn from what went wrong. (I posted something on JasonGuitar's journal about taking this day by day, which might be of use).

 
Day 15

I think perhaps finally my libido is under control! :-O I still have the compulsion to look at fetish things in public and at work but it feels more like a habit/compulsion than a hormonal urge - like it's coming from my brain rather than my groin.  Overall I just don?t feel the constant urge to rip the clothes off everything female that I encounter, and if I do see something alluring I forget about it reasonably quickly.  This is an astonishing development for me and if it lasts* it well help me tremendously. 

Other than that, felt a bit depressed on Sunday/Monday and was thinking about my ex again (haven?t done that in a while.)  But had an Emotion Code session on Monday and did some work on it.  2 days later it seems to be gone.  Just amazing.  I'm starting to make plans about the future and get exited about everything that lies ahead.  Just can't imagine going back to porn now.

*Big if :p
 
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