Humble Rich: Getting Back to Health

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HumbleRich

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Hello all,

10:20 am on a Saturday morning and I am sat down with a cup of tea making breakfast.  My wife got called in to work today, so I am going to be cleaning the house while she is gone.  I got on immediately today to talk about some really weird stuff that has been happening after a week of being clean.  I woke up this morning while having dreams about myself and one or two high school crushes.  I have no idea what this means.  And this is part of why I don't feel comfortable disclosing my continued problems with porn, and my difficulty maintaining sobriety with my wife.  I would NEVER EVER cheat on my wife.  I did cheat electronically with her while we were dating, which is why I followed through when she told me to delete individuals I flirted with, cheated with, online while she and I were dating, after I deleted Facebook recently.  (I am not on any other social media.)  I realize what a huge mistake cheating was.  It was during a time when I was doing a lot of stuff I shouldn't be doing, and in a bad place, though that is not an excuse.  I was a full fledged alcoholic when she and I met and dated in graduate school, drinking every night or every other night.  I was off and on with her because of my difficulty with commitment and my difficulty dealing with my feelings for her and wanting to get settled down.  A part of me resisted the idea of courting my future wife, and wanted to be a bad boy or something.  I don't know.

All I can really guess is that these dreams are a response to me giving up porn, erotic images, and masturbation.  But what if it is more than that.  I do feel resentment, entirely separate from my relationship with my wife, before and after getting married, from not getting much action in high school.  Are my old insecurities back to haunt me now that I am no longer drowning them with constant porn-based lust activity?  To explain, I went to a tiny boarding private high school where it was virtually impossible to be sexually active.  Students were banned from entering dorms that housed the opposite sex.  Some students did find ways to do the dirty by doing it in other locations on campus, or by going on summer vacations together, etc.  But I never found that appealing.  The single girl that I dated during my years there approached me, but our relationship ended up sizzling out after little more than three or four months over the inability to have any sort of sexual relationship.  When I look back now I think that going to this high school, though it did wonders for me, ended up setting me back for years.  It turned sex into this alien thing, that I would not experience until I was a Junior in college, losing my virginity to my then girlfriend.  Sex became this thing I always wanted, something I put on this weird pedestal of things I wanted to achieve, but simultaneously seemed out of reach.

At the same time I had horribly bad social skills and so had a very hard time approaching girls I liked.  Not that, again, these relationships would have lasted due to the almost impossibility of having sex.  I would find out much later, when I started talking to these girls again in college (while I was single, before meeting my ex girlfriend, and then my wife) that several of these girls would have agreed to date me.  This only made me feel more shitty (for lack of a better word) for not asking them out.

This all led me to be horribly screwed up, in my opinion.  I had virtually no experience romantically between the two adult relationships I have had (my wife and my ex girlfriend).  My wife pointed out to me once, that I have only had one adult relationship, with her.  She defines adult around behavior, like the other 90% of people do.  That we live together, have been in a long term relationship, and were preparing for marriage.  I, of course, define adult around sex.  Obviously one of these ways is better than the other.

I can't help but think though, that that is not the whole story.  I do remember that the first time I acted out to porn was in high school.  In my dorm room I would masturbate to dirty anime (light porn) or porn I could find online.  I started my porn addiction way back in high school, which means I have been a porn addict for around about 15 years.  That really says something to me.

What if my problems talking to women were the result of my porn addiction, not the other way round.  I am not saying that my lack of a romantic history was solely caused by porn addiction.  I did start high school, after all, not being addicted to porn.  But I think that I got on the computer, or looked at magna, as an escape from my lack of social skills.  Instead of improving my social skills, and approaching girls, I masturbated in my room.  Before I knew it, the ball was set rolling and I was in the viscous cycle that would rule my life.

But those days are behind me, my rational mind says.  Those days are long gone.  I am a happily married man, in an epic quest to understand my wife and live the best married life I can.

Which is why I hope that I am right.  I hope that these are simply symptoms of my porn addiction of more than a decade trying to pull me back in, and not signs of a much deeper, more severe problem. 

My rational mind knows that I am a very lucky man, for my life to have turned out this way.  Married, with a good job, and a teaching career on the horizon.

I would be insane to rock the boat. 

I am fairly certain that there is nothing deep about these dreams I keep having.  I have not cheated electronically since long before my engagement to my wife, more than three years ago.  I have accepted the realities of married life, that I am a taken man.

The insanity of my past will die and wither away.

In other news: I am undecided about whether to bring up my ongoing troubles with porn addiction to my wife.  I feel it would be much better to tell her about success overcoming an addiction, than to tell her I am having difficulty overcoming it. 

Maybe I am just procrastinating.  I don't know.

Anyway.  That was way more than I planned to write.  But that is what this is here for.

Be back later.

Checking out, 6 days sober. 

Rich

 

aquarius25

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I just want to point out a few perspective shifts for you to mull over. You most certainly don't have to agree I just thought if I put them out there they might help you in seeing things from a different perspective. First, viewing yourself as a "taken man". I used to view my husband this way and I am sure he did the same. One thing I realized though this experience is that nobody is "taken". Even though we are both married, the marriage license doesn't keep him from finding someone new. He chooses me and I choose him. We do this every day. I choose for him to be my partner and to do life with. He chooses me. A lot of partners view porn as a form of cheating because it is one person in a partnership, hiding and withholding truth in order to seek sexual gratification from another source that is not their spouse and purposefully making sure that their "partner/spouse" doesn't find out. Experience a sexual gratifying experience outside of the marriage union. When I look at these two things I realize and have talked with my  husband (he shares this thought) we both realize that porn is (at least for us) a form of not choosing your spouse. It destroys the partnership. The only way to heal the partnership is by allowing your wife to actually be an informed partner.

Each day my husband gets up and chooses not to look at porn, to not seek relationships with other women in person or lots of other things, he is choose me as the center of his affection. Each day I do the same. Marriage is built on years and years of continuing to make this same choice. One day at a time. Its not an obligation, its an opportunity to choose to love someone and grow old with them. There is no missing out or thinking the grass is greener somewhere else. It is a matter of getting the opportunity, watering your own lawn and making sure the grass is greener in your own marriage! 

I mention this to be encouraging to you!
 
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HumbleRich

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Updates: still clean and sober, but the urges to hop on over to Reddit are real!  I did binge Youtube videos (none sexual in nature ), and that might habe something to do with it.  I am thinking that I might take a detix from Youtube for a week or two.  It may be good for me.  I did notice,  entirely separate from this porn.addiction, that I have been having trouble with reading comprehension in more difficukt articles .  I was reading my Scientific Amerucan this morning and my eyes glazed over.  I am usually a very active reader, so all I can think is that my binging of Youtube recently has made my brain lazy.  It is time to get off Youtube fir a while to get that reading strength back.

Clean and sober, but having cravings.

Rich
 
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Feeling better today.  Did some reading and I was back to normal.  Just need to get off of the Youtube.  Besides that, I had some epiphanies today while I was out doing errands, but I will let them cook longer before I write about them here.  Clean and sober. 

Rich
 
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HumbleRich

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Back to the starting line.  I binged on Reddit erotic sites last night and this morning.  Set the bar back to zero. 

Rich
 

bob

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Humble,

I will add myself to the column that says, BE HONEST WITH YOUR WIFE!

She know something is going on. She can sense it. Marriage is a relationship with two people. You work together to solve problems. Porn's power comes from its shame and secrecy. Don't let it control you. Have the guts to open up and let her know what is going on.

Maybe just have her view Gary Wilson's TED talk. You don't have to tell her (right away) that this is your problem. Approach it as something of scientific interest.

We are pulling for you.

Peac
 
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HumbleRich

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Still here.  A week sober.  90 Days sober of alcohol.  Let?s get those kind of numbers for this addiction!

Rich
 
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HumbleRich

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Checking in clean and sober.  Heading into my second week of sobriety, so about day 8.

May have to end up telling wife.  We had sex after not havingndone it in a while and I had a hard time getting it up.  I had to do it manually musekf.  This surprised me as I am more than a week sober of porn.  I did masturbate without porn twice last week.  I am masturbating less and less without visual stimulation.  I blamed not having sex for a while for problems.  Hopefully I won't have  problems when we have sex this weekend. 

Thinking about how to go.about telling her, but it would be nice to have a fully clean conscience .

Also, she and I do plan on trying tk bave a baby again soon, so I need to habe the problems gomaway sooner rather than later.

Rich

 
Hey there. I would say knowing what has happened to my marriage- we are now in the process of separation my biggest regret is not telling my wife. We now are too far down the line and she would not support me if I told her now. You can however, your wife wants a baby and a happy life. Don't let your shame rule you as it has done to me. Get it out and get the support you need from your partner- the only way is to do it together.
 

bob

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Humble,

I encourage you to talk to her. Maybe have her watch Gary Wilson's TED talk. You can watch it together.

This problem is built on secrecy. It makes it even more difficult to stay clean. While it may be difficult to discuss this problem, I can bet that when you tell her she will say that she knew something was going on. I have heard it again and again on this site and it was the case for me. It was a difficult talk but better than if it progresses further downs.

Peace
 
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HumbleRich

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Logging in.  Clean and sober, although today the urges are really, really bad.

Rich
 
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HumbleRich

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I just acted out, falling again for the two week curse!  I acted out, because apparently a dick that works for sex and a better life are less important than jacking off to shit on Reddit. 

I am figuring out how to block explicit material on my Ipad and Android because I see now that I need training wheels.  My Ipad looks like it will be the hardest because it looks like I can't disable Safari on it. 

Feel really lowsy at the moment.  I have  decided that I will tell my wife, but I want to find ways to prevent it from happening again first. 

Wonderful.

Hope everyone else is doing better than me.

Rich
 
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HumbleRich

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Ipad is done.  Surprisingly, it was very easy.  I just went to restrictions under general settings and changed it to Limit Adult  content.    That didn't stop me from accessing Reddit, of course, so I just added that to websites to block.  I was very surprised at how easy it was to put up barriers on my Ipad  my Android is trickier unfortunately.  That is a problem because I usjally look at porn on my android. 

Rich
 
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HumbleRich

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So, I've looked and looked and there is no easy, nonconvoluted, and effective way to filter out adult material on my Android.  Great!  I feel gutted and like I will never win this fight.  I don't know if it is worth telling my wife now that I can't do anything about my phone.  Not a good idea to open that can of worms.  It would be different if all I had was my ipad and a computer.  But the fact that nothing at all can be done for my phone mames me feel that I have to just use willpower.  I can't block material.  And I wouldn't be able to prove to my wife  I was clean anyway .  It is best just to do this on my own.

Rich
 
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HumbleRich

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I am going to fight porn and masturbation addiction by getting back into my meditation practice.  It is my birthday on Sunday, August 5th.  My birthday present to myself is to get rid of this addiction.

Reading ch
 
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HumbleRich

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Will do, as soon as we move back to the States.  Thanks.
 
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HumbleRich

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Checking in clean and sober.  My wife let me have it today for ignoring her and not soending time with her these past few weeks.  As well as what she calls emotionally abusive behaviors.  I have  to make  some drastic changes.  I am going to start by making time for quality time with her.  I won't read my books or do anything else when I am supposed to be doing that.  I will keep my studying to an hour when I get home.  Then I spend time with ber.  Big changes.

Rich
 

bob

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Humble

I found these two different sites/videos that talk about blocking adult content on Android phones. I assumed that you had already seen this but it was worth a try. Might suggest that you give your wife access so she can set the password. Then you can't automatically go around the block. If not you wife, maybe a friend?

Just a thought. Thinking of you had wishing you good luck in the connections between you and your wife.

Peace

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FofFGcCULl4

https://www.wikihow.com/Block-Porn-on-Android


 
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