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Pete McVries

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Good news! :)

I've been feeling the same lately and it's still mind-boggling to me. But a very welcomed feeling. ;D

Keep up the good work!
 

stepbystep

Active Member
Great job! Thanks for inspiring me that it is possible. I have gone years without porn, but it's back and I'm trying my best to avoid it again!
 

CB

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Thanks guys!

Day 41 now.

Yesterday was really tough, had really really strong urges to watch p or instagram girls.
I went as far as to google some stuff and just stopped myself. I noticed my libido went higher and the urges too after we had sex, so there?s definitely some pitfalls to look out for.
I?m going out for a run to get my mind more focused.
 

CB

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Day 43 checking in.

I was googling on some girls, but have stopped myself each and every time. I?ll have to put away my phone more during the days. I?ve got a bad period right now, strong urges and compulsions. It?s like impulses and I go kind of like autopilot on google.
 

CB

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The urges have quieted down, and I?m happy to say I broke a record for myself in going 46 days without pmo. I get these longing feelings and the sadness about quitting though. I get these false beliefs that the girls I used to sext with would be good for me. I know this isn?t true. It?s the addict in me whispering.. ?Just one more time, please?
I just feel good about trying to leave this behind. For over two decades held me in its grips..
The addiction hates me, and I?m happy to love myself a little more than before. Step by step..
 
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Lero

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CB said:
The urges have quieted down, and I?m happy to say I broke a record for myself in going 46 days without pmo. I get these longing feelings and the sadness about quitting though. I get these false beliefs that the girls I used to sext with would be good for me. I know this isn?t true. It?s the addict in me whispering.. ?Just one more time, please?
I just feel good about trying to leave this behind. For over two decades held me in its grips..
The addiction hates me, and I?m happy to love myself a little more than before. Step by step..

Outstanding progress, man! Almost fucking 50 days!

I know about the "sadness". Porn produces a big dopamine raise so of course we feel sad for giving that up. But we must do it, because it's harmful for us.
 

CB

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Thanks a lot Lero!

Yeah 47 day in the bag right now! My libido has been under control today, last days it has been higher, and the urges as well.
Yeah, Takes time, and I?ll gladly be moving towards sober life. Had a dream about me pmo?ing.
It?s crazy what tricks my brain pulls out..I?m feeling more stable today though!
 

CB

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It?s day 51, no looking back.

I?m working hard on myself, trying to improve myself. But the urges are many. Compulsively going in looking at girls on instagram and fantasizing. This is the behavior I?ve been used to for over 20 years. Looking forward for it droping off little by little.
 

NewStart04

Member
CB,

Congratulations on reaching 51 days. I hope to be that far in someday soon, but for now I've only reached 10.

I've been hit with a lot of anxiety as well. This in part comes (at least in my case) from the fact that we can use pornography (or any addiction) as an emotional crutch to deal with stress and difficult emotions, which turns porn use into our default coping response. Also, addiction is a disease that affects our brain, and one of the fundamental brain changes that occurs in addicts is a malfunctioning stress system. What this means is that when we come into contact with a stressor, our body responds with a more exaggerated response than normal, sending our stress system into overdrive and inducing many withdrawal symptoms (including anxiety). I understand that even if we are aware of this, it doesn't make the anxiety disappear. I really wish it did. But hopefully this information provides you with some solace, that is assuming you didn't know it already.

I noticed you mentioned a few times that you felt more cravings after having sex with your partner. Have you ever heard of the chaser effect? After we orgasm, porn addicts may have intense cravings. So you might want to consider avoiding orgasm (either from sex or masturbation without porn) for a longer period to give your brain time to recover. If you still still want to have sex, there is a technique out there called Karezza that allows you to do so without orgasming. Please check it out if you're interested.

Lastly, I think it is important to remember that addiction revolves around dopamine. By fantasizing or looking at images on the internet (not necessarily pornographic, scantily clad women or just women that you find attractive can lead to this as well), we are actually creating spurts of dopamine within us that activate our porn-conditioned circuitry and impede the progress of recovery. I am only ten days in, going through one of the most difficult periods of my life (lots of external stressors), but I have miraculously been able to push past all the obstacles (urges, withdrawals, desensitization) so far, completely PMO free, and I think that this is thanks to the fact that I have been on monk mode (i.e. no fantasy, avoiding any intentional peeks at content that I could perceive as sexually stimulating) almost the entire time. I am still early in my recovery, but I think I feel more recovered compared to my past streaks.

Sorry if my response was a bit long, but I have read and watched a lot on this subject over the past year, and I just wanted to share something that could potentially be helpful to you on your journey.

Wishing you all the best, I am really glad to hear you have a supportive partner. Keep up the good fight!

 

CB

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Thanks NewStart04!

Some really good advice in there! Yes anxiety hit me as well really hard in the beginning of autumn last year when I decided to quit. I had dizziness for weeks and agoraphobia. The dizziness has gone and the agoraphobia is under more control. I can go and shop things and stuff now on my own without panicking. I think people in general with some sort of addiction is more prone to anxiety and or other mental health problems. I as you have been diagnosed with ADHD and OCD. I?ve learnt more about these conditions and how I react in certain situations since I quit pmo.

It?s day 55 now, and I have noticed these dopamine highs I get from watching pictures. Going hard mode just one little step by step. I had to ween myself off this addiction, I relapsed a ton of times and now I?m almost on 60 days. Crazy!!!
But I can never let down my guard, it will always be there.
I have found working out and going out running to be very helpful! 

 
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Lero

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Anxiety sucks. I also suffer from social anxiety, general anxiety and panic. Mild OCD too. I don't know if porn created them or if I had them and porn made them worse, or if they have nothing to do with porn. I guess I need to quit porn first and then see what's going on.
 

NewStart04

Member
CB

I just saw your post now. Sorry about that. I would have replied sooner had I known.

Yea, sometimes I get wrapped up on which is the chicken and which is the egg for me (did addiction create the disorders, or did they create my addiction). This might sound strange, but just getting caught up in thoughts about this can cause me some pretty intense anxiety. But I think I am getting better about this and other obsessive thoughts. If I abstain from this addiction long enough, I will provide myself with real life data that will give me a good idea about which is the chicken and which is the egg. I just have to learn to live more in the moment so that I don't get overwhelmed by it and blow my chance to experiment and learn more about myself.

Day 55! Which means by now you've passed the two month mark right? That's incredible. The furthest I ever made it was two months. You have a great mindset right now I think. What I remember at that time was things got noticeably better, but because of that I let my guard down. When something hit me at two months (I had a painful and scary physical attack in the middle of the night), I was pushed way out of my comfort zone. I was unprepared and reacted without thinking about the consequences. But it seems like you have this base covered, which means that you are 2/3s there to the coveted 90 days. Keep at it!
 

CB

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No worries, I?m myself a little on and off right now with writing on here.

I?m at day 62 right now. Urges are still coming and going, irritable and stressed and worried at times. But way easier to not relapse as than during the first few weeks. Taking day by day, trying to live a little more healthy. Not as much junk food and going out running is doing good for me.

Yeah I know about the anxiety stuff too, had some type of light nausea last night when we went to bed. My mind wanted to just pmo, to make the anxiety go away and the nausea feeling. I?m so good at getting stuck in those type of anxiety circuits. Fearing I?ll have light nausea again this night of course. I hope you guys are doing well!
 

NewStart04

Member
CB

Sorry to hear about last night. Wish you didn't have to go through that. But you successfully made it through and gave your brain another day to recover and heal.

Good luck with the next day.
 

CB

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I haven?t been in here in a while writing, just reading others post for some encouragement. I?m on day 72 right now, had some really vivid dreams couple days ago and my urges got really bad. But I managed to keep them at bay. I went on to some sites to look at stuff the other day.. not a good idea, it?s like my brain goes in to this compulsive mode straight away, finding myself having impulses to write down those adresses on google to go in for a peek.. I need to get better hold of myself and keep away from just looking at pictures..
Definitely need to work on that.. Otherwise I?m doing well. It?s getting better, but I?m just in the beginning phase of trying to get this addiction under control and quit. This is a good start, just being aware that I don?t have to hide anything feels great!
 

CB

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Hello! Welcome RayReboot!

I?m on day 75, I went in to a site to have a look.. It?s so stupid. It?s like throwing fuel on a fire.. I?m 15 days away from 90 days. And I haven?t felt the urges as often and strong as before. I know how a relapse feels like and it?s not just worth it.. It will last for seconds and then I?ll feel shameful and bad about myself. I?m always trying to think about the consequences now to keep myself in check. Good thing is I haven?t felt really anxious today. Have a good day guys!
 
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Lero

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CB said:
Hello! Welcome RayReboot!

I?m on day 75, I went in to a site to have a look.. It?s so stupid. It?s like throwing fuel on a fire.. I?m 15 days away from 90 days. And I haven?t felt the urges as often and strong as before. I know how a relapse feels like and it?s not just worth it.. It will last for seconds and then I?ll feel shameful and bad about myself. I?m always trying to think about the consequences now to keep myself in check. Good thing is I haven?t felt really anxious today. Have a good day guys!

Great, man. Stay away from looking at anything because the shit gets out of control. Every little "insignificant thing" that we think we could handle it easily, has the potential to sabotages us. I know because this is what just happened to me.
 

CB

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Great, man. Stay away from looking at anything because the shit gets out of control. Every little "insignificant thing" that we think we could handle it easily, has the potential to sabotages us. I know because this is what just happened to me.

Thanks man! You?re totally right! Sorry to hear about your relapse, but you will get there, the only as long as you keep going forward, you?ll get there!
I need to get much better at controling my behavior with how I use the internet.
 

CB

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Day 85

The other day I found some bad sotes to look at, and it all went downhill.. I went on a sexchat site and started chatting ?just for fun? while hungover after a night out. I started writing to someone and after almost 5mins I clicked down the window. I didn?t touch myself and I?m happy about that. But I have been feeling such shame and anxiety and remorse. Just awful.. the last days have been tough, but I?ve managed not to pmo. I can?t keeping looking back.. I just need to take both feet out of the grave If I?m going to make it.
 
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