Moving On - This Matters

TheGuy

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Time to move on from PMO, HS (hook up sites), M and O. Below is from previous posts to remind me. I realise for me to be drifting to PMO I have lost sight and feeling of how bad PMO is. How bad is PMO? 

SERIOUSLY, PORN IS REALLY BAD AND IT MAKES YOU FEEL REALLY BAD. STOP USING IT OR YOU WILL FEEL REALLY BAD! WORSE, IT WILL BE A GREAT REGRET OF YOUR LIFE
It gives you a limp dick, bad sex life, social anxiety, no confidence, steals your valuable time and makes you feel like shit. There is a simple acknowledgement to be made here.  Porn leads to massive dopamine hits to the brain and becomes an addiction.  It makes it impossible to enjoy anything normal in life.  The reason why my mind can overlook the bad and pointless nature of porn is because I am an addict. I admit it. I have a problem with porn.

Our time here on this Earth is limited; it goes by in a flash; don't waste it! One more relapse can lead to years of one more relapses.  You have a chance to come here and do great things, but there is nothing great about porn, it does not fortify you, it does not enhance you, it does not make you smarter, stronger, a better lover or more attractive.  If you spent 10% of the time that you watched porn exercising, getting a balanced diet, educating your self and taking care of your self you would have the life you want.

Links
Why does reboot take so long?
Why do I keep relapsing?
Overreacting is a trick your minds plays to get you to PMO
Are hook up sites classed as porn?
When harden the fuck up doesn't work

The Guy's Rules
1. Read these rules OUTLOUD everyday and back them up with the necessary emotion to support them.  If you are not emotionally engaged, your in danger of relapse.
2. I recognise that my mind is not capable of watching high speed internet pornography and functioning optimally. When I watch pornography my brain gets large surges of dopamine, a chemical response strongly linked with survival normally released in response to food, water and procreation. However, pornography short circuits this mechanism and produces so much porn dopamine that it prevents the brain from recognising other healthy sources of dopamine. This results in life imbalance and a long term chemical imbalance in the brain leading to porn addiction or rewiring of the brain to get more porn dopamine. During reboot, my brain will try and work out ways to get back to porn despite me trying to stop it, because it has linked porn to survival through dopamine. I therefore must pay constant attention to the ways my mind will try and draw me back to porn and prevent this from happening. I must reinforce through meditation to my brain that it does not need porn.
3. Porn and PMO will not help you. It will only make you feel bad. If you already feel bad, it will only make you feel worse!
4. There is no one more time. This will lead to years of one more times. It has to stop now this instant, there is no one more time.
5. You will never beat porn if you don't do the difficult! Deny it!
6. Pay attention to feelings, don't sexualise people, watch or read things that are arousing during reboot.
7. Your mind will trick you to get back to PMO/HS, always be on guard and be ready to challenge your way of thinking and emotional state.
8. Be aware of your thoughts, emotions and actions. Link the mental, emotional and physical aspects of reboot and keep balanced.
9. Withdrawal symptoms are not pain, they are gain; every withdrawal symptom is you changing the incorrect wiring in your brain.  Your brains neuroplasticity allows it to rewire and after sufficient time the attraction to porn/hook up sites will end.
10. To my subconscious mind, please listen to me.  I understand that you think watching porn and receiving porn dopamine is necessary for my survival because dopamine is the reward I receive for eating, drinking, procreating and staying alive.  But porn is not keeping me alive, on the contrary it is slowing killing me by taking my valuable time and preventing me from succeeding.  Pornography has become a great regret in my life and I don't want it to continue.  Thank you for looking after me so well, thank you for getting me to this point in my life, but from now on I need you to stop pornography coming into my life.  I know together, we will succeed.  Thank you.

Learn from other people's success. http://legacy.rebootnation.org/index.php?topic=282.0
Thanks to Supersonic some of these rules are from him.

Rocky Time
Let me tell you something you already know, life isn't all sunshine and rainbows.  It will beat you to your knees and keep you there if you let it.  Not me, you, or nobody is ever going to hit as hard as life can.  But it ain't how hard you can hit, its how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward.  That's how winning is done.  Now if you know what your worth then go out and get it.  But you can't be saying I didn't get this because of that, him, her or nobody.  That's what cowards do and that ain't you.
Rocky Revised for PMO
Let me tell you something you already know, PMO isn't all sunshine and rainbows.  You will beat your self to your knees and stay there if you keep going.  Not me, you, or nobody is ever going to hit as hard as PMO can.  But it ain't how many relapses you have, its how much learning you can do and distance you can put between relapses, and keep moving forward.  That's how winning is done.  Now if you know what your worth then go out and get it.  But you can't be saying I didn't get this because of PMO, him, her, or nothing.  That's what cowards do and that ain't you.

I have to constantly remind myself that it took me years to ruin my brain this much and it's not going to be undone by just a few months of not watching porn.  Personally, I used to use porn to feel better when I was having a bad day.  I also used it to cover up feelings of inadequacy as a person.  This is where my addiction stemmed from and I had to work on those core issues to gain the strength to overcome porn.

Time I've Lost/Wasted on Porn.
3 Hours x 4 Days a week = 12 hours per week. 12 hours per week * 4 weeks = 48 hours month.
3 months * 48 hours per month = 144 hours or 6 days.  12 months * 48 hours per month = 576 hours or 24 days.
You have spent almost a month a year (24 days) PMOing! Over the last two decades, you've spent an entire year PMOing; that's sad!
You can't get the time back you've lost/wasted on PMO, but you can take your life back!
 

TheGuy

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Day 2 - I'm a PMO/hook up site addict.  Goal 1 - Make it to 14 days.
Do not entertain curiosity at all - ever again.  That's the call of PMO.  You know this because your blood rushes through your veins faster, your heart beat speeds up, your body temperature warms up and then you have a drive to watch porn.
As I said, no more entertaining curiosity.  No PMO, hook up sites ever again.  No M or O during reboot.
 

TheGuy

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Day 3 - Goal 1: Make it 14 days without PMO/Hook up sites (HS)
Worst sleep ever!  Anyway, feeling good despite lack of sleep.
Not going to PMO/HS makes me the master of my domain.  That's a good thing.
Over the last few months my trend of reduction in PMO/HS/M/O is completely awesome.  I'm not there yet but I'm working on it and I feel good.  Good work everyone!
 

mouchas

Member
Hello my friend, I want to ask you a question, what hobbies do you have ? Any activities that you entertain yourself ? If I ask you to become a different one guy for one day what would you do ? ?f I advice you to get lost in your city would you do it just for fun ?
Thank you for your words about my fetish problem, it helped me about feeling guilty. I cannot accept it as a normal thing.
 

TheGuy

Active Member
Day 5 - Been pretty flat out and will be very busy over the next few days.  No PMO/HS/M/O.
I'm an addict to PMO or hook up sites (HS).  I've got rid of the PMO for about 2 months.  Very good.  When I gave up PMO, HS began.  I've never done hook ups before so its weird.  I could have beat myself up, but instead I tried to understand myself and my behaviours.  I've reduced HS and am confident of eliminating it.
What a strange journey this has been.  Its been a little bit of a roller coaster but a very good change and I'm still working it out fully but I'm really happy with my progress.
Mouchas:
My hobbies include computer programming (but I've stopped programming for the last few months.)  I also exercise and do martial arts.  Best way to occupy mind and body.  If I could be a different guy for one day, I'd like to be the centre of the party, relax and have fun with people.  I'm a pretty serious guy and I just can't seem to find the normal everyday things that everyone else likes enjoyable.  I feel like I have a purpose here and I should spend my time working on that purpose.  But that being said, your journey in life should be happy because you can't have a good life if all you get is a happy ending at the last moment.  I'm trying to make the journey good but its a lot of effort for me.
Finally, your fetish.  I'm a pretty honest guy and people are pretty honest with me because they know I don't judge them and I often tell my story honestly first.  From all of the awesome people I've met in my life, you have no great problem or malfunction.  I don't want to say your average but I will say I think your normal.  Sorry if that seems unbelievable, but like all people who improve themselves one day you will move on and forget you even had this thing that you worry about now.
 

TheGuy

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Day 7 - No PMO/HS/M/O. Goal 1: 14 days.
Pretty good day today, no issues; very busy.
Half way to my goal.  Great work.
 

TheGuy

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Day 8 - No PMO/HS/M/O Goal 1: 14 days.
Feeling good today.  I've been reading some of the other guys' stories about how detrimental porn is in their life.  This stuff has to go, I need to live a real life and P isn't that.
 

TheGuy

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Day 9 - Alright! No PMO/HS/M/O. Goal 1: 14 days.
Got a message last night asking how to maintain success at not PMO.
I said you have to work out what works for you.  During my first few attempts I stopped PMO but still allowed M and O.  Then I kept failing so I had to revise.  So I stopped PMO/M/O and that is working really well.  I'm still not there yet, but man my progress has been getting better and better.  The times between relapses are getting longer and longer and my will power is getting better and better.  That means I'm retraining my brain.  And I think that's something to be excited about.
My favourite post is this one: http://legacy.rebootnation.org/index.php?topic=282.0
It has the 'reboot attitude' about it.  I take the bits I like and use them to help me.  Here are the bits I like:
1)  CURIOSITY IS NOT ALLOWED TO BE ACTED UPON! 
3) CATCH THE TEMPTATION EARLY! IMMEDIATELY!! GET INTO A NEW MIND-STATE
5)  FORGET AND IGNORE WHAT YOU ARE FIGHTING AGAINST, WHEN THERE IS NO TEMPTATION
6) READ YOUR LIST OF RULES REGULARLY!

Do you have a list of rules?  I don't, but I've adopted the rules in the above post and they help me to stay on track and build the attitude AKA 'state of mind' to be PMO free.  Awesome!
 

TheGuy

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Yep Day 10 - No PMO/HS/M/O.  Reboot period: 60 days.  Goal 1: 14 days.
I've been pretty flat out with things and today was the first day back exercising in a couple of weeks.  Since my last relapse I've almost stopped exercising.  There are other time pressures however.  Getting the balance right can be a challenge.
SLEEEP
One thing I've noticed, getting enough sleep helps not relapse.  This is an important one for me because I never get enough sleep.  Until now anyway.  Now I aim for 8 hours every night and I get at least 7.  Pretty good!
TRIGGERS
I've always hated the word 'triggers'.  It makes me feel like I'm not in control I suppose.  Anyway, thinking about when I relapsed the last few times, it occurs when I feel depressed or have a argument.  That's my trigger.  Now just to formulate a plan of attack to not relapse when I feel like this next.
 
c?mon the guy! you almost pass the worst. today its my 14 day, and ill tell to you that the worst days are,9 ,10, 11 , 112 to me, its only mental thing. dont lost the hope! ;)
 

TheGuy

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Day 11 - no PMO/HS/M/O. Reboot: 60 days.  Goal 1: 14 days.
Thanks for your support alejandro33, it always helps and is nice to hear from others going through the same thing.
Very busy today and have assignment pressure from university.  I was on my way to exercise today and I had very bad social anxiety.  Ok, fine I had a bit of a panic attack.  All I wanted to do was go home.  But alas, I pushed onward and forced myself to exercise.  I didn't have much energy but still it was a good work out and I feel better for it.
I wonder if food might be effecting me a little bit.  When I don't eat enough I tend to not feel very good and I didn't eat much today.  Food for thought; sorry about the pun.
PORN MAKES YOU FEEL REALLY BAD.  DON'T WATCH IT!
 

TheGuy

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Day 12 - no PMO/HS/M/O. Reboot: 60 days.  Goal 1: 14 days
Have been exhausted all day today.  I had to submit a assignment at the last minute (which I always do) and my stress went way up.
Apart from that, I'm feeling okay but getting very hungry during the day even when eating enough food.  Strange.
Things have settled down and I think I'm over the hard part of the beginning of reboot and I think I got of lightly from the last hook up site and MO compared to full PMO relapse.
Its hard to remember how bad porn makes me feel and I try to remind myself of that because its easy to forget and relapse.  Man , I've spent house jacking off trying to find the one video that would do it for me.  But some times I got to a point where I couldn't find the one at all.  I've spend so many hours browsing porn and then after orgasm I feel so bad I don't want to go out side, be around other people or do anything so I end up losing my entire day.  I feel like PMO is kind of a traumatic experience in some ways.  While the dopamine is pumping our mind will ignore it but once the rush is over there is nothing left but shame about what has gone on.  So many times I've chosen porn over more important priorities.  I don't think I can be a complete person with porn in my life.
 

Jason

Member
Love your insights they really remind me to stay away from porn.  Keep going my friend you can do it.  As my reboot draws on it is easy to lose sight of the nightmare of porn but it is courageous men like you who also are leaving the darkness behind who remind us to stay away from that hellish world of pain.  Again many thanks for your honesty and insights and as I have learned on Reboot Nation keep truckin friend.
 

TheGuy

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Day 12 - no PMO/HS/M/O. Reboot: 60 days.  Goal 1: 14 days
Jason thanks man.  I've read your posts and you are really positive and I've been able to take a lot away from your words too.  Thanks man.
The last couple of nights I've had really bad sleep.  Before that I was getting 7-8 hours a night.  It occurred to me the reason why I can't sleep is because of emotional turmoil.  Things and wrongs that have been done to me that really haunt me.  The truth is so many nights I've not been able to sleep because I feel so very wronged.  I try hard to focus on goals to move on but sometimes its hard.  That being said, its not impossible and I can do it.  This has given me an insight into porn and I've heard this stated in other ways by many guys.  Sometimes porn is an easy way to escape problems.  When you engage in PMO your mind is completely engaged in one thing and one thing only.  Its a quick way to escape our problems.  The more posts I read the more I see guys usually relapse either out of the blue after some kind of arousing experience or at times of stress, arguments or feeling bad about themselves.  We may be using porn to escape problems but in doing so we create other problems.  I certainly agree that I've used porn as an escape to problems albeit subconsciously.  Perhaps, what I really need to do is deal with the problems and get closure.
Got back to doing basic weight exercise this morning which really helped me burn off some of my excess emotional energy and anxiety and refocus on my goals and what's important.
 

TheGuy

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Day 13 - no PMO/HS/M/O. Reboot: 60 days.  Goal 1: 14 days
Still have a headache and am emotionally exhausted.  Slept better last night however and had some time out watching a movie which was nice.  I will catch up with friends tonight and it will be good to get out for a while.
I still get the occasional flash back of porn and the feeling to M but these are dissipating and the more I read my rules the quicker I can get rid of those thoughts.  Tomorrow I will be back at 14 days and I am proud of myself.  It has been at least 10 weeks since I last PMO which is good.  I am dedicated to the value of never watching porn again.
 

TheGuy

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Day 14 - no PMO/HS/M/O. Reboot: 60 days.  Goal 1: 14 days - ACHIEVED.  GREAT WORK.  Goal 2: 30 Days.
Glad to say I've made it to my first goal of 14 days.  My next goal is 30 days and I will make it.
I've been all over the place in terms of feelings, anxiety, flu and headaches.  But even with all that I have not been struggling with sexual thoughts and feelings.  So I feel all the effort I've been putting in with removing PMO and reducing and stopping M/O is working very well.  When I think about it, my anxiety has probably halved and even though I am struggling right now I do feel I am struggling far less than if I was still PMO.  Awesome!!!  These are the moments to celebrate and pay tribute to the hard work to bring balance back to my life.
 

TheGuy

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Day 0 - Goal 30 days.
Ok - I stuffed up. I went on hook up sites and M/O and then a day later for about the first time in 3 months I PMO.  Fail.
I'm not trying to make excuses, but I M/O about 8 times in the last 3 months.  I can't remember the last time I had so few M/O.
So forgive me if I'm not totally wiped out here.  I will however, take action to avoid this type of relapse.  Therefore, I commit myself to going over BYOP again to re-educate myself.  I also realise that I need to communicate better about my problems to make sure they don't overwhelm me which is usually when I relapse.  So I'm going to contact a counsellor so I can have some times just focusing on me and my problems.  I also commit myself to reading a self improvement book to keep my focus not on just stopping PMO and viewing hook up sites but to improve myself.


 

TheGuy

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Day 0 - No PMO/HS/M/O
I stayed up until 4:00 am doing an assignment the night before last.  I think they might help explain my PMO relapse after 3 months.
As I had about 4 hours sleep yesterday I was feeling very well.  Massive anxiety, heart palpitations, felt really bad.  Everything pretty much everyone on here knows will happen after PMO.  Why? Why? Why the relapse?  This is a tough one to explain.  I don't really understand why it happened and how I allowed it to happen.  I felt like I had definitely put PMO behind me.  I wasn't even curious about it, it just happened.  But I don't want it to just happen any more.
I'm going to try and put that in writing for myself.  When we put things in writing and concentrate on what we are writing is often helps it filter into the brain.
One thing I know for sure; I will beat this and this is another step towards my great balanced freedom.
 

TheGuy

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Day 1 - No PMO/HS/M/O
Just read this post from Therewolf.  I think this says it all on my behalf for today:
I have to constantly remind myself that it took me years to ruin my brain this much and it's not going to be undone by just a few months of not watching porn.  Personally, I used to use porn to feel better when I was having a bad day.  I also used it to cover up feelings of inadequacy as a person.  This is where my addiction stemmed from and I had to work on those core issues to gain the strength to overcome porn.
I do often feel inadequate as a person, low self esteem etc and porn is an excellent way to get short term gain for long term pain.  What I have to do is go through the short term pain to achieve long term gain.  But the less I PMO/HS/M/O I realise its not pain its freedom and confidence.  But I recognise as an emotional being when I experience large lows I relapse.  Its up to me to do something about that to permanently stop PMO/HS.
 

TheGuy

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Day 3 - No PMO/HS/M/O
Been a struggle since I PMO.  Feel very bad, anxiety, moody, sad, no will to socialise and loss of priorities.  Everything I knew would happen and everything I don't want.  That's porn.  This is also really interesting.  The old adage: body, mind & soul.  Sexual energy is very powerful and if misused it has a tremendous affect on me. 
From YBOP:
1.Higher hours per week/more years of porn viewing correlated with a reduction in grey matter in sections of the reward circuitry (striatum) involved in motivation and decision-making. Reduced grey matter in this reward-related region means fewer nerve connections. Fewer nerve connections here translates into sluggish reward activity, or a numbed pleasure response, often called desensitization. The researchers interpreted this as an indication of the effects of longer-term porn exposure.
I've burnt my reward circuits with my 1 view of PMO after three months of no PMO.  DO NOT WATCH PORN!!
 
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