Just for this moment no PMO

[LTE]

Totally agree and if ever I thougt there was someone's able to reboot sucessfully it's me. Done it before and like the benefits of not PMO way more than PMO. Plus I really don't have a desire to PMO. now it's just a matter of one moment at a time and steady the course

Take a moment to read my signature line.

 

[Zyrock]

Well. Hopefully I have hit a bottom. I am alone. Stayed in the house all day and have done nothing today except. Watch regular movies, PMO. I have isolated myself from everyone. I normally like the peace. hopefully that was my last PMO. I took a bath and started a conversation with God. Basically, I have nothing else to lose or give up. I don't care if I lose my job, my house, my Harley, my jeep, my convertible, my boat, my money, or anything at this point. I am willing to try and work on my relationship with God. I am laying in my bed and I am sad. I feel very much like I lost much when my wife left. and I feel like I am failing but I'm actually not. I just need to keep the path I started when she left.

I don't know where it's going to go but I am willing to believe that there is more than this. So just for now I wanted to share. Not sure if anyone is where I am but I pray you find the guidance and light. I feel like when my wife used to be asleep by 9 and reading her book that when I am doing something she used to do that I am way behind. It's a nightmare but probably just the PMO talking.

Ok enough of the problem. Now it's time to focus on a new goal. I don't know what that goal is. I guess I will focus on reading the playbook and then the purpose driven life. I need to stop watching my idiot box and finish reading these books I started.

 

[LTE]

Well. Hopefully I have hit a bottom. I am alone. Stayed in the house all day and have done nothing today except. Watch regular movies, PMO. I have isolated myself from everyone. I normally like the peace. hopefully that was my last PMO. I took a bath and started a conversation with God. Basically, I have nothing else to lose or give up. I don't care if I lose my job, my house, my Harley, my jeep, my convertible, my boat, my money, or anything at this point. I am willing to try and work on my relationship with God. I am laying in my bed and I am sad. I feel very much like I lost much when my wife left. and I feel like I am failing but I'm actually not. I just need to keep the path I started when she left.

I don't know where it's going to go but I am willing to believe that there is more than this. So just for now I wanted to share. Not sure if anyone is where I am but I pray you find the guidance and light. I feel like when my wife used to be asleep by 9 and reading her book that when I am doing something she used to do that I am way behind. It's a nightmare but probably just the PMO talking.

Ok enough of the problem. Now it's time to focus on a new goal. I don't know what that goal is. I guess I will focus on reading the playbook and then the purpose driven life. I need to stop watching my idiot box and finish reading these books I started.

If I might be so bold; I think that the weight of your loss (from the divorce) has landed upon you. It's not a big surprise, it usually happens she you get divorced. Even an unhappy marriage causes pain when it ends. I've been there myself and can speak from experience. What you are feeling is probably a reaction to the finality of your divorce. You seem to feel as if nothing matters, but in reality things do matter, including you.

The key is realizing that you feel this way now, but will not always feel this way. It will get better. It may be that you feel bad a lot of the time for a short while and then the times you feel good about things will become more and more prevalent as time goes on. Don't beat your self up over this, but don't give up on yourself either. The strength is still within you. You are also in a PMO hangover right this minute. Get some time under your belt and that will lift too. You can do this, Z.

 

[Zyrock]

didnt pmo yesterday or today    feel pretty good  im still sick  and tired  its been sunny here last two days and that makes me feel good    well  today is  a lonely day  im tired 

 

[LTE]

didnt pmo yesterday or today    feel pretty good  im still sick  and tired  its been sunny here last two days and that makes me feel good    well  today is  a lonely day  im tired

Keep going.

 

[Tclay]

Zyrock,

God is much bigger then our mistakes.  And He has certainly seen folks in worse situations then you or me.  He made grace for just exactly your situation.  The fact that you find your actions completely unacceptable is great!  This is the perfect attitude... Now employ the grace He provides to help His children get on track.  Just keep on target.

 

[Zyrock]

real quick, i am definitely not beating myswlf up or even think thatmasterbation is wrong  its just not what i want to be doing  the amazing thing is i can see the benefits of not mastrbating  if i didnt fear ed  i probably wouldnt quit but now that ive been free frok masterbation for a length of time  i really enjoyed it  (beijg PMO free) im definitely not average in that i dont think masterbation is a sin or anythign    i just know that for the first time in a long time i actually cleaned my toilet  that was cool    anyway    hope and pray you guys can find the sense of nutrality that i have experienced without a desire to PMO and i currently dont hae a desire to PMO  thanks  good night 

 

[SlaveToRighteousness]

My views on masturbation have changed a lot over the past year. I'm pretty sure I now think that it is a sin, even if it isn't accompanied by lust (e.g. porn and fantasy). The reason I think it's probably a sin is that involves sexual activity without one's spouse, and I've reached a point where I understand sexual activity to be all about connecting with and "becoming one flesh" with one's spouse. The whole purpose is to join souls with your spouse, and if you're masturbating, you're not doing that in any way.

I think that we are supposed to reach a point where we have enough self-control that we can save all of our sexual energy for our partner. If our partner is not available, then we should control ourselves and wait until they are.

 

[LTE]

My views on masturbation have changed a lot over the past year. I'm pretty sure I now think that it is a sin, even if it isn't accompanied by lust (e.g. porn and fantasy). The reason I think it's probably a sin is that involves sexual activity without one's spouse, and I've reached a point where I understand sexual activity to be all about connecting with and "becoming one flesh" with one's spouse. The whole purpose is to join souls with your spouse, and if you're masturbating, you're not doing that in any way.

I think that we are supposed to reach a point where we have enough self-control that we can save all of our sexual energy for our partner. If our partner is not available, then we should control ourselves and wait until they are.

I tend to see it the same, STR. I don't criticize anyone if they don't see it this way or haven't developed enough self control to pull it off but, I think this is the best approach. Had I controlled myself and only had sex with my wife back in my youth there no telling how good life could have been.

 

[Zyrock]

today i have no desire to masterbate.  its a rainy day and i awoke early to go in to work early  fortunately I dont have a desire to masterbate.  as far as sin goes, to each there own. i totally agree about making a connection. if a person isnt married and they dont have a girlfriend and they can exercise M healthfully then all the power to them. for me i am not one of them people  anyway  as far as what could should been  oh well 

i definitely see my higher power or God in a different light. i definitely know Jesus was real and was walking the earth teaching the word of God. i also believe he was crucified.  now O dont have a problem with him being born of a virgin and walkig on water and fish 5000 and water to wine. i dont feel its important to me in order to believe that he gave his life for whathe believed    now as far as the father, i believe in God and the power of prayer, and i thank God, but i dont think God is like santa claus or that we have predestination. i dont for a minute believe God had me getarried only to get a divorce  I agree in the bible as far as God is against divorce but i cant say oh "it was Gods will for me to get married and then it was His will to get a divorce and yet god is against divorce"  i agree gods will was for me to get married, i believe that god is against divorce but i dont think God is interferrig with mans will when exercised.  i am just being honest and open minded and dont believe what other people believe unless someone is on the same page im on.  i still pray to God and say prayers and i just dont think there is predestination or fate    all we have is this moment  acceptin Gods will for me is accepting life on lifes terms 

 

[LTE]

today i have no desire to masterbate.  its a rainy day and i awoke early to go in to work early  fortunately I dont have a desire to masterbate.  as far as sin goes, to each there own. i totally agree about making a connection. if a person isnt married and they dont have a girlfriend and they can exercise M healthfully then all the power to them. for me i am not one of them people  anyway  as far as what could should been  oh well 

i definitely see my higher power or God in a different light. i definitely know Jesus was real and was walking the earth teaching the word of God. i also believe he was crucified.  now O dont have a problem with him being born of a virgin and walkig on water and fish 5000 and water to wine. i dont feel its important to me in order to believe that he gave his life for whathe believed    now as far as the father, i believe in God and the power of prayer, and i thank God, but i dont think God is like santa claus or that we have predestination. i dont for a minute believe God had me getarried only to get a divorce  I agree in the bible as far as God is against divorce but i cant say oh "it was Gods will for me to get married and then it was His will to get a divorce and yet god is against divorce"  i agree gods will was for me to get married, i believe that god is against divorce but i dont think God is interferrig with mans will when exercised.  i am just being honest and open minded and dont believe what other people believe unless someone is on the same page im on.  i still pray to God and say prayers and i just dont think there is predestination or fate    all we have is this moment  acceptin Gods will for me is accepting life on lifes terms

My viewpoint hinges on one very important thing; we have free will. God does not interfere with the practice of our free will. If you want to go for a walk, eat ice cream, walk in a protest march or try to enslave Europe God will not try to stop you. He allowed Pearl Harbor, the atomic bombings of Japan, 9/11 and all sorts of other things; He is not a dictator over the human race. I do believe that He helps and blesses those that turn to Him for help, but He's not about to drop a bag of gold into your lap, at least I've never seen it happen.

MY opinion is that when you plant lemons relying on God will not change them to oranges, but relying on Him might help you to see how to make lemonade. We all get ourselves into plenty of trouble and He allows this, even when it's painful for all involved. He also helps us to learn from our mistakes. I have a lifetime of screw-ups behind me, but I've gained a lot of wisdom in the process. I have no one to blame except myself for all of the problems I've caused myself and no one to thank, except God, for the fact that I've made it through and been blessed in many ways.

I agree completely with your last statement.

 

[Zyrock]

just awoke after a nap  no desire to PMO  nowi hope i can go back to sleep  early comes quick 

 

[Zyrock]

lte  i agree with all you wrote    and thats why my perception of has changed 

right now i am tired, sick and pretty much isolated from anyone. i go to work and then if i am going to want to hang out i need to reach out  God does have a few people that reach out every so often. 

totally no desire to PMO   

 

[fcjl8]

Hope you get some good rest and your sickness heals up soon! I will pray that your connection with The Spirit ignites and that gives you lots of positive energy.

Stay strong brother.

 

[Zyrock]

thanks  as always  encouragement is always appreciated    right now  i am pretty much isolated  which is fine for me for a while but then i start to get out of synce with the world which is fine until i find myself in a familiar place, feeling good or bad, alone and thinking well  i aint hurting nobody    now  it doesnt matter because i have to go this journey alone here in person but on here reboot nation i dont have to be alone  i have no desire to pmo  actually watching a hollywood movie and lots of T and A and it doesnt do anything for me  funny thing is sex for me is kind of like a removed thing    again thanks for the prayers    i believe in God but dont believe in most other peoples beliefs if that makes sense  i dont believe in things that dont make sense for the most part 

trying to get some rest  today was a very tired and sick day ans very lonely and painful  a bit of a slap in my face dont want to go into details just cause i want to try and sleep  plus i have cut off communication from my female friend and actually cut out talking to a couple of other female friends  additionalky i havent exercises since a week sunday  i didnt go to bible study or chirch cause im sick  just ugh  this sick is getting on my nerves  but  any way 

not sure but i dont get how people normal people can have different friends  i can usually have one at a time and then i go for a period without  i just get tired of people 

 

[LTE]

Try to do something about that isolation. It's not good for you.

 

[Zyrock]

wow  and in a blink of an eye i went to man created god  oh well  ok  i deleted facebook from my phone just to attempt to go back to old school social networking  i know that isolation is not good for me    i am still sick  when i start feeling better i will start going back to meetings 

 

[LTE]

wow  and in a blink of an eye i went to man created god  oh well  ok  i deleted facebook from my phone just to attempt to go back to old school social networking  i know that isolation is not good for me    i am still sick  when i start feeling better i will start going back to meetings

IMO, Facebook is not a positive thing of any sort.

 

[Zyrock]

today i came home and took a nap    then got a phone call from a guy wanting to talk    i also got a call from my ex step son which actually made me feel really good    i text a little with my female friend but basically requested my laptop back and just being very cold told her    although i am horny i dont want to have sex with her and go down the same paths we have already gone down  i figure if we are going down that path once the  its easy to go down it again   

i am haveing a personal civil war that is really weird 

 

[LTE]

today i came home and took a nap    then got a phone call from a guy wanting to talk    i also got a call from my ex step son which actually made me feel really good    i text a little with my female friend but basically requested my laptop back and just being very cold told her    although i am horny i dont want to have sex with her and go down the same paths we have already gone down  i figure if we are going down that path once the  its easy to go down it again   

i am haveing a personal civil war that is really weird

It sounds like war. Just take small steps in life right now.