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firstofall22

Active Member
Don't let porn rule your fucking life, mate! Stay strong and next time when you feel the urge to masturbate, just think...

"Nice try, brain."

:D
 

kopp

Active Member
I relapsed yesterday edging a bit to sexy music clips (around 20 mins). I later had urges to cum (no external stimulation). I disobeyed 4 of my 5 rules (I didnt go outside yesterday).

How did it happen?
Nice weekend, a lot of social moments, hit the gym twice and made nice workouts (and got nice gains!), helped my cousin (girl) visit flats, met her friends, made her meet mine
Awesome party saturday night, talked to 2 girls, invited another one to dance (not my type at all lel but still, I wasnt able to do that before), I later heard that the barmaids talked positively about me, thanks to the gym I felt confident with my (sexy!) body
Shopping with a friend then restaurant with my cousin and her friend (girl) on sunday
I felt that I had strong progress in my attitude, my willpower to get girls (I felt ready to approach, ready to have a girlfriend again), etc.
I started playing guitar again!

but :
I was tired (long day + long night + little sleep)
I was away from my journal for several days so I simply forgot my rules (I don't remember them well enough yet to have them deep in mind when I need them...)
I forgot that I should avoid every stimulation and every orgasm and not only porn & pmo


At least Im glad this was not porn and a bit more realistic, but this is still wrong and I didnt realize it on the moment. In fact, I got aroused by the fact that I had an awesome weekend and that I saw progress with girls, and I celebrated that by masturbating. That was wrong. I have to learn from these mistakes. Somehow I feel ok with it because I just made mistakes I know I can't do again.

I'm a bit sad for my streak. My best was 8 (and not 6 as I wrote before) and I was 2 days from beating it.

So, my new resolutions :
Write here everyday to stay focused on the reboot and avoid relapsing when I get urges
Beware of sleeping enough even on weekends
When I'm horny, I have to do something that will make me closer to get a girlfriend instead of masturbating and losing the willpower to get a girl. I have to remember and realize that masturbating makes me less close to have real sex.

I repeat my rules (to learn them :p) :
I don't touch my penis.
Only a girl can make me ejaculate.
I don't edge, I don't look at pictures, I don't look at porn substitutes.
I go outside at least once a day.
I plan my weekends so I have something to wait for and focus on during the week.

So yeah I had a little relapse (but no porn! :) I don't feel bad, no headache, no brainfog...) and big, huge, giant, fat, humongous progress on so many levels (social life, family relationships, body, girls, guitar)!
The real bad point that makes me worry is the actual chaser effect. Also a bit too much of internet yesterday.

Oh and the facebook girl has a boyfriend already, haha. :D

Next weekend already half planned : big party on saturday night.
 

kopp

Active Member
This is hard guys. This is hard because of the chaser effect, damn this fucking chaser effect.

Everytime I have an orgasm by myself, I have the chaser effect and the lack of motivation following. I thought one orgasm would be ok and I was wrong. This is very difficult to admit that I should not orgasm nor take any kind of sexual pleasure by myself.
It is hard to tell yourself that you should NOT be aroused by anything.

I wonder how it is with girls. I don't have PIED, and I'm afraid that the reboot would cause ED. Fuck. I used to be a good fuck, that would be afraid to now have PE because of reboot.

It's hard to pass the first 5-6 days. Then on day 7 I finally feel full of energy. Then on day 8 I'm so fucking horny and tend to relapse.

This is stressful right now. I feel like I'll never be normal again, never have sex again, ...
 

kopp

Active Member
Hey. That post was kind of pretty sad. I was kind of pretty sad.

That's not the attitude of a winner. :) Yes I have to be aware of the chaser effect - but it's another reason to stop, not an excuse to fail.

I feel better already. I don't have to be sad. You decide to be sad or not, happy or not. I decide to be happy. When tempted I just have to get rid of the urge by changing my mind first, then do something useful or funny. Action is the only antidote. Motion creates emotion.
 

kopp

Active Member
Today I feel fine. I will sign up to job websites today, I finally feel alright about it. :) Better late than never!

I crossed the way of a girl I knew in school when we were 12-14 this morning... At that time she had a crush on me and I had a crush on her best friend hahaha :D I added her on Facebook, I hope something will happen haha :) She became pretty! Nice white shirt, serious look which makes me want to know if she's always so serious, nice make up with red lipstick. hmm hmm ;)
 

kopp

Active Member
A few things I realized about girls :

#1 - Don't talk to them about your problems. There are girls I considered my friends that I wish I could have tell when I felt bad but the truth is that they don't care. They have already enough shit to handle, they have already other guys talking to her about much more fun things than your problems.

Don't tell them anything negative. Just make em laugh or whatever, be special in the right way. They have to feel lucky to talk to you, not the opposite. Same for you, you have to consider them lucky. You could be funny with any girl and yet you have chosen this one - she has to feel special or else you'll just talk to another one.

You have problems? You feel like shit? Fix it yourself. They won't fix it for you.

Seduction involves a high level of energy. Be happy first, then get the girls. Flood them with your happiness.

#2 - When they refuse an invitation with a valid reason, they won't repropose another date. That's ok, propose another one a few days later. Just because they refuse one doesnt mean they arent interested, they just receive invitations all the time.
But you can't be waiting that they invite you after that. I mean, it will happen when you'll have a good level, when you'll be seductive already. But when you begin, it doesnt happen and it's ok, don't give up. People are "busy" (usually busy doing nothing) and if you don't ask then you don't get. This is your role as a male, to invite the girl, her role is to wear her sexiest dress and make up and other girly stuff.

Lately I was afraid to talk a lot. To seem needy if I talked or approached often. But that's part of the job, you have to do it, this is a way to show your interest. You appear needy eventually because of what you or how you say it, not by talking often to a girl.

Do not fear talking, get the girl used to you, then get away a bit, always be positive and have cool stories to tell (have a life + learn story telling)
 

kopp

Active Member
Nothing much to say today, I'm going to Amsterdam for 2 days with my family, so it will make it easy to not relapse during this time.

I have to be careful after I come back, I could be tired and feel alone.

Stay strong my friends :)
 

firstofall22

Active Member
Hey mate how is it going??

Well thats a good thing, you will be busy on your trip anyway, so no chance for a relapse to take control over you.
How are you feeling in general? Are the urges making your life hard or not? How is the socializing going and your activities?

first.
 

kopp

Active Member
Everything was fine until that girl sexted me. Fuck.
I had so much good memories with her etc. that I pushed the dialogue and edged mutiple times in the day then I relapsed. At first I just wanted to know how far I could go with her, talked to her about meeting eachother soon... then I was so aroused that I could not stop. This was a stupid move. I even watched sexy pictures on the internet after that and I had an orgasm.

Again I've been too far from the forum, too far from the reboot, too far from my rules.
Solutions : I told the girl about the addiction, I told her about not sexting me even if I was asking for it. And I'll get back to my rhythm of 1 post a day here as much as I can (I go on holidays soon).

I notice that after 5-6 days, not touching myself becomes hard. I miss real sex so much and start being anxious about never having it again (stupid belief...) and start wondering if nofap is really a solution. The answer is that yes, it is, but my brain tries to fool me everytime.
But sometimes, mostly when I'm tired (I was because of my trip to Amsterdam), I don't find another activity to replace the cravings for sex.
I also noticed the chaser effect and the negative toughts this morning.

On another hand, I notice that after  6-8 days I start being more social. For the first time in my life, a cute girl started talking to me in the train. Never happened before... I was a bit nervous, a bit lacking words sometimes, I wasn't at 100% but hey I did it, I had a conversation with that girl. Didnt try to get a phone number as she told me she was going to meet her boyfriend. I've been stupid on this one, I'm pretty sure it wasn't a coincidence she started the conversation... haha. :D I was impressed about how much she would talk about herself to a total stranger, this is easier than I thought.

But that's part of my rules : I don't touch my penis.
I want to become a better myself. I need to get rid of this addiction and grow muscle and make money, I want the whole package : 6 pack abs, money, the suits, the girls, the crazy nights, the friends, the sun and the beach...

I already understood that porn was bad for me, I just need to understand and remember that sexting, as long as I didnt reboot yet and as long as it's not with a girl that lives near me, is wrong too. So : no more sexting. :)

I feel 100% motivated now. I will fuck the addiction. I'm trying again and I will succeed, I will do my best to become better, I'll never give up. Everyday that passes, I make social progress, everyday I'm more opened to the world and the people around me, everyday my body is looking better.

I love you guys, you're all such an inspiration to me, I have so much respect for all of you and for those who succeed, I'll do as good as you did or even better, watch out!
 

kopp

Active Member
ALSO : NO MORE SURFING THE INTERNET FOR USELESS SHIT, NO MORE USELESS USE FOR MY PHONE, A PHONE IS MADE TO MEET FRIENDS AND THATS ALL
 

kopp

Active Member
I'm hitting the gym again and getting bigger and bigger everyday. I wish I had something to tell you guys but nothing comes out.

I don't feel like going out. I feel alone. Tired. Broke. I wish I could turn off my brain and just act without thinking. But I make progress. I have 2 jobs interviews this week. Gonna rock that shit.
 
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RobertoCammy

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Try not to worry to much about you recent relapse, bro. The main thing is you picked yourself up and started right away again! That takes courage in itself.  :)

I've got some similar symptoms to you as well.  :-\  I don't feel like going out too and I'm so tired right now! Hopefully, the further we get in to the reboot, this will go away.  8)

Good luck with those job interviews. I'm sure you will be fine, mate. Allez, bon courage!  ;)
 

kopp

Active Member
I'm on day 12, almost day 13. Morning wood everyday. I'm proud of it. The only bad sides are : I spend a lot of time on my smartphone, I have like a constant headache that might be reboot related. I hope it is my brain healing.

I might have sex tomorrow, I'm afraid of what will come next. Chaser effect, cravings...
 

kopp

Active Member
I got a blowjob (from my ex) 2 days ago. It was really nice. I was rock hard :) no PIED, no PE, better quantity of sperm than before...

I feared cuming fast because I had one orgasm for 13 days but I was ok!

Then I had the chaser effect, I wanted sex again. I masturbated once, to sensation only, and really enjoyed this moment. Once again I had a good erection, but the quantity was very little.
I haven't masturbated since.

Yesterday I've seen a girl in bikini with an amazing ass... I regret that I did not approach her because I woke up this morning thinking of her. I would have loved fucking her or at least approach her.
I had a low libido those last days, not being horny and being shy to the hot girls on the beach, and it seems like my libido is coming back.

I  enjoyed this experience of no PMO + real sex + a little masturbation by myself to sensation only.
 

kopp

Active Member
I had sex twice yesterday and relapsed right now after 23 days.

I wasnt purchasing real sex as I did the last time I posted. I was purchasing a relapse / porn.

I'm stressed because I only have a few days left to find a job AND end a paper AND get ready for an oral presentation... too much to do...
 

kopp

Active Member
I feel like the worst shit ever...

I have to write 40 pages for tomorrow afternoon... I wrote like 4...
I woke up early to work all day, took a good breakfast, listened to motivating videos... I didnt work a single second
The more I have to do the less I do... fuck...

And I still have to find a fucking job, I do nothing and time goes so fast... fuck... I hate myself. I even have suicidal thoughts. Of course I wont do it but I feel like a failure, I know my parents will hate me if I don't find this fucking job and I feel like being dead would simply be easier...
 
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