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metal22 said:
Andyjee,  I have a tendency to over analyze everything,  and I think some of my issues come from my childhood,  but I sadly have to admit almost my entire sexual identity has been sculpted by P.  Or at least that's how I feel,  like I can't tell if my preferences are because of what P I've watched,  or if its something I would like/wouldn't like even if I had never seen P.

I'm exactly the same... I have a little bit natural intimacy memory, but it is short and stops before intercourse... So my entire memory of intercourse is like 99% P... I only lost my V at 22 and had sex a bunch of times (really badly due to PIED - didn't know at the time). Even though I'm able have sex 90% of the time these days, I'm constantly comparing myself and questioning how bad I am in bed compared to my partner's ex's. I put a lot of pressure on myself but have nothing to gauge my performance on. I freak out if I see sex on TV/film and instantly compare thinking, "hmm I've not done that position... Could I even do that position? Is my GF missing out on that"? It's ruining me.
 

metal22

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I missed yesterdays post.  I excused myself though since I didn't have time of working a 10 hour day,  then driving home for 3 hours,  then I just wanted to relax with the family before bed. 
It was strange being away.  I kinda feel like I had turned myself off sexually.  Like I didn't think about P really at all.  Even though I was mainly alone there were no feelings of temptation.  That felt good when I look back.  I think it might have been in part to a different scene,  where there were no habits set?  It makes me feel excited to move to a new place,  where we can all have a fresh start,  and I can set new habits that have nothing to do with P.
 

metal22

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Feeling down today.  I had to come back to work and it made me miss my family alot,  plus the weather and roads were bad,  and my truck was acting up.  It was like sadness mixed with stress.  Ugh.  I hope things are better tomorrow.
 

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metal22 said:
Feeling down today.  I had to come back to work and it made me miss my family alot,  plus the weather and roads were bad,  and my truck was acting up.  It was like sadness mixed with stress.  Ugh.  I hope things are better tomorrow.

Keep your chin up, Metal! You'll be back where you want to be soon. Just remember you're doing everything to make your family happy. Keep your eye on the big picture - it can sometimes help to not fuss the smaller things. Congrats on all the effort and progress you've made. I'm sure it's making a big difference to you and your wife.
 

Virus01

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The fact that you missed your family and didn't P when you were alone are good signs! Dropping the macho act and embracing your feelings is a big step, it was for me. I would think "I can take care of myself, I don't feel lonely because I have P." No Bueno. Get comfortable with the uncomfortable, you'll emerge a stronger person.
 

metal22

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Hey thanks guys!
The morning started out rough when I came out to my truck and a snow plow had pretty much buried it.  Hoping to not have to dig it out I tried to conquer the snow mountain,  but had to dig it out anyway.  Was a tad late to work,  but the day was warmer and very productive,  so that felt good.
 

metal22

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Feeling pretty good today.  I've been trying to go to bed earlier and it seems to be helping me feel happier.  Being away from the fam is tough on everyone,  and I think when I'm down it's harder on my SO.  Plus being more positive and less worrisome has been a project of mine.
I've been having off and on nightmares recently.  They don't seem to be P related (at least there's no sexual content),  but I'm not sure what's causing them as I don't normally have them.
Looking forward to the end of the week when I get to head home.
 

metal22

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Had another nightmare last night.  I can't remember it,  but I do remember waking up in the middle of the night and thinking 'crap, another nightmare'.  I don't "think" its from the reboot,  but I'm not 100% sure.  I think it's more about stress of all the life changes happening right now,  and being away from home (I'm very much a homebody) plus my SO really kind of is a cornerstone in my life.  I've really been missing her. 
I get to go home tomorrow.  I'm very excited,  but also slightly bummed as the job I'm on now was supposed to be lots of O/T.  I was expecting to make lots of $$,  which isn't really happening.  I tend to be a rigid person,  so when I have expectations that aren't met I struggle.  This is probably a good exercise for me.  But on the plus side I get to be more with my fam,  and get more done on the house that my SO can't do.
I've been feeling bad for her.  She is working her tail off on the house, and I can tell she's struggling.  Her stress level is really high as well as her exhaustion level. 
I know this will be over soon and both of us try to focus on the light at the end of the tunnel.
 

Virus01

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It's not the same as money, but try to find moments to laugh together. Shouldn't cost any money, yet it can provide some relief during the stress. Maybe on old sitcom that both of you enjoyed. Laughter can be healing. Stay strong, both of you.
 

metal22

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Thanks man.  We watched the latest Jason Bourne movie last night together.  It was really nice.  I felt super tired last night though,  and I think she was feeling frisky so that's a bummer.
This week is my last week at the job.  Super excited about that.  I really don't like working on the road.  I guess I'm just a home-body. 
 

metal22

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Had to leave for work last night.  I felt really sad about it.  I feel like during times of stress both my SO and I cling together,  which over the last 6 months has been really hard on both of us bc of what I did and the damage it did.  But in a way it was nice to have those mutual feelings again,  where we want to come together and hold each other (metaphorically) when things are tough.
Another thing has come up that has struck me as odd.  So when I'm on the road I've had like 0 urges,  but honestly like 0 sexual thoughts.  When I'm home again and see my SO my sexual thoughts seem to come back somewhat.  It almost feels like a different environment makes me asexual or something.  Anyone else have that happen to them?
 

metal22

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48 hours until I get to go home  ;D
Was a little scatter brained today.  Not sure what brought that up but seemed to be kinda forgetful.  My SO is sick at home and I'm feeling bad about it.  I usually take care of her when she's sick,  and I think she's having a tough time without me. 
 

metal22

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Thanks Virus it was!
Back home and promptly got the flu that everyone else in my family had.  Ugh and we are trying to get a bunch of stuff done with the house,  the business is way behind since I was gone,  and now I'm energy crippled.  I just gotta push through this and get it all done.
I've been feeling frustrated about my PIED.  I still don't totally understand it.  Is it really just come down to dopamine?  Like if I'm not experiencing a "hit" it doesn't work,  and if I do get a hit it does?  Thoughts anyone?  Or does anyone have any really good reads about it?
 

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metal22 said:
Thanks Virus it was!
Back home and promptly got the flu that everyone else in my family had.  Ugh and we are trying to get a bunch of stuff done with the house,  the business is way behind since I was gone,  and now I'm energy crippled.  I just gotta push through this and get it all done.
I've been feeling frustrated about my PIED.  I still don't totally understand it.  Is it really just come down to dopamine?  Like if I'm not experiencing a "hit" it doesn't work,  and if I do get a hit it does?  Thoughts anyone?  Or does anyone have any really good reads about it?

That's pretty much right, Metal. To signal arousal to your body, your brain needs to perceive excitement, arousal, potential for pleasure (reward). It uses dopamine to do this. Most of the dopamine response happens before you even have sex - it's what gets you excited enough to even try having sex. Using porn decreases your response to dopamine because it has been totally over exposed to it and is exhausted, so the level of excitement and anticipation is much lower, meaning lower arousal. The good news is that the brain can relearn this response simply by giving it a break from the dopamine surges it used to get with P. It just takes time. Try to be patient - it's happening even as we speak. Your brain is fixing itself every day you live a good life.
 

metal22

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Malando thanks for your reply.  I always appreciate your thoughtful comments.
Sickness seems to be a thing in my house.  My daughter got the stomach flu when I had the other flu,  and now my SO has the stomach flu.  Ugh this sucks.
I'm feeling like I'm getting my life back,  or maybe getting a different life,  since I've never actually known married life without my PA and PIED.  I've been planning more romantic things ( I should be doing more,  but at least I've started which I did none of prior to reboot).
I think what I should do for me PIED is start putting less emphasis on my performance.  It sounds so easy,  but is really difficult.  I think 36 years of societies pounding about "manhood" has really programmed me.  I wonder if there's something deeper and more visceral about it too. 
My looking into "dopamine" was fruitless for a solution.  Malando is right about how it works,  but it's even more complex than that.  There's no solution like "give me a hit" before going to the bedroom that would work.  Sadly that's what I was hoping for.  Some easier and quick solution.
I think my solution is to just relax.  I mean 99% of my life doesn't revolve around sex,  so why should my worries about it take up so much brain space.  I'm going to "reboot" my brain in another way,  by changing my thought process on it.  LOL my SO has told me the "just relax" solution already,  but I guess I was too stubborn to really give it thought before. 
 

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I never suffered from PIED, which I am very glad about because I easily could have. I suppose though if you have cut porn out of your life completely and it is still there maybe it is something else. I wonder at what point you decide it's not porn related anymore, people get ED without porn.
 

metal22

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*sigh*
We had a down day today.  Stress has been getting into my life and I haven't been handling it very well.  I had gotten the flu when I got back from that job out of town,  I needed to get a bunch of things down on the house, and I was behind on the biz.  But basically I worked my tail off while being sick,  and that of course causes stress.  I didn't work on letting it go,  instead I bottled it like my old self,  and let it brew.  Well it made my attitude suck more and more and today it came to a head.  I upset her greatly on her last day as a coach which I feel bad about,  plus tonight we are supposed to eat dinner at a friends house with people that I had FB issues with.  I guess my stress let me blow over that so I never really gave it a thought. 
I really need to work on letting this stress go.  I think trying to find the root cause of my ED and not finding it just made things compile as well.  SHe suggested that I just work on letting it go,  just releasing the stress.  Great suggestion,  now I just need to do it.  I will start working on that daily,  and I'd bet the rest of the crappy parts of my personality will disappear as well.  When my stress is low I feel stronger in my willpower,  and my attitude is a dramatic improvement across the board.  Plus I'm a attentive healing PA husband caring about his SO's recovery as well.
 

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metal22 said:
*sigh*
We had a down day today.  Stress has been getting into my life and I haven't been handling it very well.  I had gotten the flu when I got back from that job out of town,  I needed to get a bunch of things down on the house, and I was behind on the biz.  But basically I worked my tail off while being sick,  and that of course causes stress.  I didn't work on letting it go,  instead I bottled it like my old self,  and let it brew.  Well it made my attitude suck more and more and today it came to a head.  I upset her greatly on her last day as a coach which I feel bad about,  plus tonight we are supposed to eat dinner at a friends house with people that I had FB issues with.  I guess my stress let me blow over that so I never really gave it a thought. 
I really need to work on letting this stress go.  I think trying to find the root cause of my ED and not finding it just made things compile as well.  SHe suggested that I just work on letting it go,  just releasing the stress.  Great suggestion,  now I just need to do it.  I will start working on that daily,  and I'd bet the rest of the crappy parts of my personality will disappear as well.  When my stress is low I feel stronger in my willpower,  and my attitude is a dramatic improvement across the board.  Plus I'm a attentive healing PA husband caring about his SO's recovery as well.

Hey Metal, sorry to hear things are down at the moment. Releasing stress is super important. People often refuse to acknowledge their stress and try to power their way past it but in reality they don't - it releases in our interactions with people, and unfortunately that means our nearest and dearest cop it. I think the biggest mistake people make is in thinking that doing more work will relieve the stress - after all, that is what we perceive to be the problem, that we haven't completed our work. But really it doesn't work that way. The stress will only build if you keep yourself in the same environment and mindset that caused it. Even completing every single task on your list won't relieve the stress that comes with constant immersion in a stressful state. So the only relief is to get out of that space for a while. That means going for a walk, a ride, doing something physical. Hit some golf balls at a driving range. Go bowling. That sort of thing. Even though it seems like it's wasting time, you get a stress circuit-breaker which allows you to work more efficiently, harmoniously and at a higher level of quality than if you had not taken that break. It also stops you wasting time on petty arguments with your partner. Managing this requires a good level of self-knowledge so that you always know when to take breaks in order to maintain your equilibrium. I think we all could improve in terms of managing our moods and work/relaxation balance.

Regarding your ED: Is it still as bad, or nearly as bad as when you were using porn? If so, how's your general health? Have you had a thorough check up with your doctor lately? There's a lot they can look into with regard to health issues that impact ED. You might have low testosterone, high cortisol, high/low blood pressure, early stage diabetes, vitamin deficiencies, a thyroid problem, early stage cardio vascular blockages (I assume you don't smoke?). All of these should be ruled out as soon as possible, because they can be very damaging if left untreated. With treatment most of it can be reversed or at least managed. Even people with low body fat, apparently good health can carry conditions that they are unaware of. So if you have't had a full check up, I really think you should. Generally the "flatspot" that many rebooters experience doesn't last for more than 6 months after quitting P - although I have heard of the odd case that took this long. So it's worth checking this out. If for nothing else, you must have a fair bit of anxiety about ED - and that doesn't help with performance anxiety.

Try to look at the bigger picture when stress is building - think about what you know about good health and sensible life balance. Try to work to those principles rather than just barging your way through.

Good luck mate!
 

metal22

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Hey Malando,
Thanks for the advice.  I would say my ED isnt as bad as when I was heavily using,  but it isn't all better either.  You are right,  I should get checked out.  I'll have to wait until all this health insurance stuff gets sorted out,  but I need to do it.  I think there might be a possibility that I may have below average testosterone,  but in all likely hood I think my ED is really just in my head.  I've thought about it,  and I think I was mind-screwing myself even before my PA.  And since P use defined my teenage sexual experiences I think I'm totally lost.  I don't even know what me being sexually healthy is,  since I've been using since puberty basically.  I've talked with my SO a bit and we are considering maybe some online counseling?  I'm just feeling like I don't even know where to begin,  my sexual anxiety is so deep it feels like its across all levels on my conscious and subconscious mind. 
I'm considering starting a new journal.  I feel like my SO and I have reached "phase 2",  which is rebuilding our relationship and finding greater mental health and healthier communication. 
 
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