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Mart71

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Yeah 175 days..... Almost half a year now.

I live in Germany and one of the big weekly magazines (SPIEGEL) has a cover story about pornography and how it affects the Youth of today. Bought it today and just had time to skim through it, but I couldn't see any mention of things like P.I.ED. Will try to read it over the weekend, but I would be surprised to find anything about what we are dealing with here.

Things with my girlfriend go very well. She just got news that she will be able to get a part time job for a few months, which will enable us to go on our trip to Japan this october. She is a student and if she didn't get a job like that, money would be too tight for an expensive trip like that. So that makes me really happy.

I wrote about our relationship issues in the other forum a few times. Gladly we both managed to work on ourselves and lately things are really relaxed.

And since the sun is shining here: life is good.
 

fcjl8

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I think it is great that the mainstream media is finally starting to allow warnings about PMO addiction. Bring this into the light and take away it's power!

I am happy to read that your relationship is growing! Sun shining life is good , you deserve nothing less!!!
 
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I read the article. They claim it is not an addiction, simply because porn addiction is not listed in the DSM. The article mostly shines a positive light on pornography. No surprise there.
 

Jverhoye

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That's too bad.  There are lots of youth who need to change course and not go down the path of PMO.  Articles like that don't help!
 

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Mart71 said:
I read the article. They claim it is not an addiction, simply because porn addiction is not listed in the DSM. The article mostly shines a positive light on pornography. No surprise there.
Jverhoye said:
That's too bad.  There are lots of youth who need to change course and not go down the path of PMO.  Articles like that don't help!
It's a shame that there's so much misinformation. I was a victim of the same for over 40 years.
 

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@ Mart71
I read the article. They claim it is not an addiction, simply because porn addiction is not listed in the DSM.

What a shame. There will be many more like that one until our voice is heard. The good news is there are other articles in the works sharing the truth. Eventually the truth will get out.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. It is a shame these journalists don't understand that.

Anyways,
Getting close to half a year without porn and also only one MO in the last 100 days.

Just wanted to say congrats! You are doing great keep truckin.
 

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Gabe Deem said:
@ Mart71
I read the article. They claim it is not an addiction, simply because porn addiction is not listed in the DSM.

What a shame. There will be many more like that one until our voice is heard. The good news is there are other articles in the works sharing the truth. Eventually the truth will get out.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. It is a shame these journalists don't understand that.

Anyways,
Getting close to half a year without porn and also only one MO in the last 100 days.

Just wanted to say congrats! You are doing great keep truckin.
When you realize that porn is big business, not just for sleazy porn merchants, but also for bandwidth providers you can see that there is plenty of potential for big business interests to support bogus "studies" telling us that porn is actually helpful. Look no further than the food industry, which has manipulated data so that they can continue to sell low grade poisons which are addictive instead of selling wholesome foods.
 
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Good day so far. Had to come to the office early, but not without saying good bye to my gf with some good early morning loving. Managed to complete a rather difficult work task in time and to the customer's satisfaction, which was a relieve. Looking forward to coming home to the embrace of my gf and then we shall have a nice night out with the classic "dinner and a movie". Movie is a "sneak" surprise screening, so I am hoping for something good.

Tomorrow: 180 days no porn. Already half a year.
 

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Mart71 said:
Good day so far. Had to come to the office early, but not without saying good bye to my gf with some good early morning loving. Managed to complete a rather difficult work task in time and to the customer's satisfaction, which was a relieve. Looking forward to coming home to the embrace of my gf and then we shall have a nice night out with the classic "dinner and a movie". Movie is a "sneak" surprise screening, so I am hoping for something good.

Tomorrow: 180 days no porn. Already half a year.
Good going mate.
 
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Well, the first half of my first year without porn is done with reaching 180 days / 6 months today. It is also the second time I have reached the magical 90 days, only in a row.... LOL

Looking back, I would say progress during these second 90 days has been mostly about stabilizing the progress I had in the first 90 days.

Erections are rarely a problem these days. I am no porn star, I still need ED drugs (or rather I use them), but I didn't have a failure in months now and I am able to have a nice sex life without the constant worries like before. This is quite reassuring and boosts confidence. Actually being able to focus on the intimacy and not the "performance" is nice for a change.

Libido is OK. I don't feel like a teenager (which is good), but touching my gf is enough to make me want her most of the time. It feels right and "normal".

Sensitivity is getting better as well. Sex feels good, bj's started to work about a month ago, only handjobs remain without effect or rather don't stimulate me enough. Not that I am really missing anything here. The improved sensitivity goes in hand with a visible change in the texture of my penis' skin, which is currently ongoing. I am both amazed by my body's ability to heal and the amount of damage about 30 years of dry PMO caused.

Quitting porn itself didn't have many other effects on my life though. The changes I made since starting my reboot came down to me getting off my lazy ass and not procrastinate for once. I do not give credit to that to porn or the power it might had or have over me, just my own willpower.

I also never felt guilty about using porn, especially since religious concerns like that don't really have influence on my life. PMO always felt like an empty and downright pathetic activity, but it didn't cause me to feel guilty about it. So not doing it anymore doesn't give me this sense of overcoming something "evil" and a hightened state of my mind because of it. It feels more like fighting and maybe beating a very unhealthy habit.

In the past, I tried stopping PMO just to see if I could do without, but I don't remember ever going longer than maybe a week without at least MO since my puberty. But after learning about YBOP and porn most likely being the main reason for my ED, stopping PMO was actually easy. Then at some point after my first 90 days, I added no-MO to the no-PMO approach. Which also felt quite easy at this point. I MOed once in the last 110 days and it didn't even feel good any more, at least not compared to real sex.

What helped me the most in overcoming this, at least in the past 180 days, was the fact that I found a girlfriend who loves me just as much as I love her. I guess I replaced my porn use with caring about her and trying to make us work. We are in a long distance relationship, which does require a lot of effort and energy to make it work. I don't think I would have been able to avoid a relapse, if it wasn't for that.

The second thing that really helped me was posting on forums like YBR or RN. It raised my awareness about the issue and it kept me on alert. There was a time when I spent too much time on the forums - YBR has a counter for the hours you spend there, and it was quite frightening to see how much time i spent there. This has been reduced a lot by now and I think it was time well invested.

My reboot was and it rather unconventional. I use ED drugs to "force" erections. I currently don't exercice (actually stopped shortly before starting reboot for reasons not related to it), i don't meditate, didn't change my eating habits. Tried supplements for a while, but it didn't feel like they changed anything. In the end, no-porn, rewiring, boosting my confidence (with ED drugs) and giving it all the time it needs did the trick for me. I think if one could just forget about porn and live life for a year without thinking about it as a reboot, that would give the same results than being obsessive about it every day like many guys seem to do. Which is understandable, I was and am the same.

So i can gladly say, that I currently neither miss porn nor masturbation. How long this will last, I cannot say. I keep waiting for some bad relapse to happen, some irresistable urge to PMO, but so far it never came.

What will the next 180 days bring? I wonder. My body kept surprising me with progress i did not expect, so I'll just take what I can get. I am already very grateful for all the recovery I received, everything on top of that will just be a lovely bonus.
 

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Good work, Mart.

The next 180 days?  There will be occasional moments that are challenging, but, for the most part, it should be pretty smooth sailing.
 

fcjl8

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So happy for you Mart,

Great accomplishment. You are really an inspirational person in your journal and comments. I know we each have different reasons for PMO recovery and I have the utmost respect for you! You are really changing your life and relationships as you free yourself from the addictions nature.
 
Congrats Mart!  What an accomplishment!!!  180 days and you're doing great in a relationship.  You've now reached "role model" status in my eyes!
 

jstatca

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Way to go, Mart - you are truly an inspiration for me as I'm sure you are to everyone! I've been pretty much in the same situation as you except I don't currently have a gf. I feel I'm currently in flatline and have felt since '99 that my dick is dead unless I get ED drugs and really fantasize hard - it's been a lot more work than pleasure.

So, reading your posts in your journal just now fills me with hope. I too have felt this would be 'mission impossible' but I'm really going to try b/c like yourself I really don't miss it that much and I just feel bad about myself after doing. In all honesty, it's time when I feel bad about myself that I do it - I guess as a temporary escape - but then I just feel worse afterwards - a vicious cycle indeed!

Thanks again - please keep sharing. :)
 
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Mart71

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Checking in. Happy to report there are still no urges to PMO or to MO.

A true test of my willpower will come in the coming months. My long distance gf will have to stay in her home country until august and we will only be able to see each other during short visits, that will probably only be possible once a month. I am not too worried about avoiding porn, but avoiding MO could turn out to be hard. I shall be more active on the forum during this time.

Concerning my reboot and recovery, it seems I am drifting more and more into DE land. It is getting harder and harder to O from sex. I seem to have PE mostly under control, but now the opposite effect of delayed ejaculation shows up more. My sensitivity is still impaired, so this is clearly related to my former porn abuse. I hope this does not get worse - we are taking a little break from sex to see, if resting a bit will increase my horniness enough to finish again. Which sucks, since my gf will have to leave next monday.
 
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jstatca said:
Way to go, Mart - you are truly an inspiration for me as I'm sure you are to everyone! I've been pretty much in the same situation as you except I don't currently have a gf. I feel I'm currently in flatline and have felt since '99 that my dick is dead unless I get ED drugs and really fantasize hard - it's been a lot more work than pleasure.

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Yeah, I know that feeling. I remember, when my morning wood went away in the early 2000's and I thought it was related to aging. Since then, MO without porn was almost impossible and even during PMO i would not always get really hard.

But thankfully, discovering YBOP and simply staying away from porn made things much better. Good luck to you, just hang in there, it takes time.
 
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DE thankfully not an issue after a few days break. Sun is shining, work is relaxed, familiy reunion this weekend, life is good.
 
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