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changemylife

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That's right. I guess Internet changes people in a way. But when I feel that everything is madness because of this "modern society" I like it when I talk to someone who is somehow old fashioned because these people have some values that I think are gone for many from the young generation.
 

Omarov

Member
Update:
I think the most powerful forces that can change a person's lifestyle is the environment he/ she's in. When you greatly change your environment, it influences your daily life a lot. For example, imagine you live in a shared apartment with 3 of your 20 something year old college friends, you'd be much more at ease with how you act, dress or talk. On the contrary, imagine if you live with your grandparents, you'll be much more restrained in terms of how loud you talk on the phone or turn on music, what stuff you do throughout the day, how late you stay out in order not to wake them up from their light sleep. Imagine if you're staying in a fancy hotel suite with a much older foreigner who's keeping an eye on you in order to learn about your culture and manners, you'll care more for your grooming, you won't talk as loudly as you usually do, and when you eat together, you'll consider following the etiquette.
Therefore, I've always thought maybe if I try as much as I can to change my environment, maybe this can encourage me to tweak my lifestyle in order to more easily expel PMO. I've decided to buy speakers and install tunein radio (radio app) on my phone so that I can put on some low volume background music the whole day if I'm gonna stay at home. I've tried that today and it keeps me really entertained and staves off the boredom that can trigger my mind to think about PMO. Music generally makes me despise masturbation. I don't know the mechanism, but when I think about PMO during listening to music I always feel extra disgusted. I like that.
Maybe I can also think of that as one of the new activities to replace the "feeling good" I keep seeking in PMO? It's not really an activity but it really helps. Turns out I really enjoyed it.
More to follow on the "new activities".
 
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changemylife

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That's right, man. That's how we fight this addiction.
 

Omarov

Member
Update:
1- I'm literally too busy these days to get urges. I have to steal a few minutes in order to be as present on the forum as I've always been. Being busy does some of the abstaining work for me. During those periods of the year, I get drenched in studying and I really forget all about stealing those filthy minutes of pleasure by PMOing, and after such a period ends I find myself with a 1 month streak or so. Before deciding to heal, I used to joyfully dive into PMO at the end of that period and destroy all the progress. I won't this time.
2- I'm more inclined these days against fantasizing, urges to view porn are not that strong, but I fantasize more frequently. I'm starting to feel how avoiding to fantasize is one of the hardest things you have to do in order to heal. When a fantasy comes by, I'm more violent towards ending it, I sometimes even physically twitch or cause myself pain in order to drive it off my brain. I like being more violent, but I don't like how hard it is to fight off fantasies and how increasingly frequent they're becoming.
3- I don't stare anymore. But I still have the inclination to think about sex whenever there's a girl somewhere. I don't look at her, but I still want to, and still sometimes forget that I shouldn't think that way. I still try to think of her as an unattractive person or try to unthink the sexual ideas that flow into my head, sometimes I succeed, sometimes I fail, when I fail I also sometimes respond with physical twitches, this time it's in public and people can see me, but I don't care.
 

Omarov

Member
How does a relapse happen? it starts way before the actual relapse, from a few days to whole weeks!
That's how it happens, step by step:
1- After the previous relapse, you're drained, guilty, lost and depressed, while your porn loving nerve endings are drunk on porn dopamine, resting and feeling happily saturated. All the while your sexual energy is depleted.
2- A few days later, your sexual energy starts to refill, that triggers your porn loving nerve endings to want the dopamine from porn (which is what you've taught your brain to understand what sex is, and normal people want sex from time to time according to their libido). When that starts happening, your brain starts flashing porn fantasies and images to your visual area, starts ordering you to stare at random women, starts making you like minor stimulants and seek them (and in my case, it also frequently makes me dream of erotic shapes or situations).
3- Next, you seriously begin seeking minor stimulants. You exploit images of women you see on TV or the internet (that people see as normal images) and you start imagining them as some sort of softcore porn. You really start liking that and pursuing that, while you keep convincing yourself that they're not porn, and you're still abstaining, still going strong on your awesome long streak.
4- All the while, you start masturbating (not to porn), in order to satisfy parts of your cravings. You think it's a good idea (because it keeps you away from wanting porn for a few hours). But the reality is, they make you want porn more, because the dopamine your porn loving nerve endings get from masturbation are not half as much as what they get from PMO, so they BURN with urges..... things get out of control.
5- More minor stimulation.... masturbation increasing in frequency.... Your enormous fear of falling into the next relapse intimidates you... You either fall at this point or...
6- In a moment of sheer terror from the imminent relapse, your filthy brain starts dropping ideas the likes of: a- You can't get away right now, you'll have to postpone quitting till something magical happens. b- You have more time, you had a good run, you can award your perseverance with JUST ONE relapse, then you'll be fine afterwards. c- Relapsing can be a good idea since it will make you more resolved to quit next time, just look at softcore and don't binge this time. You start liking those ideas because they give you some false safety and confidence which makes your fear subside, and BAM! you're back to where you were.
Side note: I'm not saying that since step one starts a relapse is inevitable, it's just harder to control the progression as it progresses. I'm at step 2 now (no I don't stare or seek minor stimulation, but I got an erotic dream that started me contemplating again). Now that I'm aware with the dirty game my mind plays, I'll arrest that progression NOW and HERE. No more stupidity. NO PMO. NOFAP!!
 
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changemylife

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Words of wisdom, my friend! That's exactly how it happens, I swear!
 
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changemylife

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What happens to me is that, the first reason why I've reduced porn was to achieve a greater "high". That's why I pushed myself, in the beginning, to wait a few days so the urges could build up and I could have a great PMO session. And this habit is what bothers me. My brain is set on this. After a few days, when urges start kicking in, I hear that voice whispering in my ear: "Okay, if you start masturbating now to porn, you will have a great O!" This is what I'm fighting to control right now. It's been 3 days but I'm having some urges that I should have after a week! I've started having stronger urges earlier than I used to. Today the craving for edging is super strong. That's how I start. I begin edging (using my stupid fetish from when I was a kid) and if I get into this now, nothing could stop me from crying tonight.
 

Omarov

Member
We can't live with that guilt our whole lives. Even if we keep doing this for another 50 years, we'll never stop feeling the guilt, and we'll never be able to get used to it.
Well, imagine you're a christian and you became a monk.. It's doable. We either embrace "celibacy" or we're stuck in a cycle of limited "fun" but protracted enslavement and soul torture.
 

Omarov

Member
Well, it's worth saying and reminding myself all the time that now is my last chance of never looking at porn ever again. I need to heal now or never.
Ok so my current streek is 18 days no pmo. I started off with the start of the year. This year is supposed to be the year where I also put severe restrictions on masturbation. I'm allowed to masturbate, but I'm only allowed to once every more than a month, then once every more than 2 months, etc.
Successes: I haven't pmoed.
Fails: I've started seeking triggers again (I searched some porn but I stopped myself) without fapping simultaneously. Another failure is that my longest nofap streak was 14 days. I'm giving myself a break because I'm extremely stressed from my exams. I'll have no excuses as february starts (don't get me wrong, I'm not allowing myself to look for triggers or fantasize).
I'll keep posting my successes and fails. Even though I'm still struggling, I'll never PMO ever again. I promise my future self.
Let's do this!
 

Omarov

Member
Yesterday I had hellish urges. I only didn't relapse because I was too busy to do anything else other than studying. And I was so stressed I didn't want to add to my stresses with another guilt and self loathing episode.
Today, I'm a little more free than yesterday. I still have urges, but I won't act on it. I put my phone in another place and decided to stay the day without it. I'll try to make it till the end of this day without thinking about the urges. I even made plans with friends I don't quite like in order to keep myself busy tonight. Tomorrow I'll be busier.
There's no other time better for healing than this time. There is no other trial more effective and guaranteed to win than this trial.
Just make the day pass. Same for tomorrow, same till my brain rewires.
My future self is watching.
 
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changemylife

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Man, why did you change your name? I thought you were someone else.
 
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changemylife

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Fapstronaut2019 said:
Oh :D
I changed it to remind myself about this year's challenge. I want to make masturbation forbidden again.

Seriously, I saw you on my page and I had no idea it was you. Only today I realized.
 

Omarov

Member
changemylife said:
Fapstronaut2019 said:
Oh :D
I changed it to remind myself about this year's challenge. I want to make masturbation forbidden again.

Seriously, I saw you on my page and I had no idea it was you. Only today I realized.

I've been checking your updates as quickly as I can as I'm still so stressed and busy with exams (I awfully hate this time of the year), I hope that you're doing well on avoiding porn. I know you can do it and I've seen you do it before. Your help and insights have propelled me through much of the way.
I also congratulate you on your successes with alcohol. Keep going.
 

Omarov

Member
BlueHeronFan said:
Just now reading your journal--you've got some great inspiring thoughts, so thanks for sharing! Keep on keeping on!

Thanks man. I was really active a few weeks ago with posts nearly everyday. Now I'm in zombie mode due to exams. I'll come back with full force in the coming weeks.
 

Omarov

Member
Status:
Success: 22 days no pmo. More and more resolved to put an end to this kind of wasted life. I've installed a rewire tracker on my phone and it has a feature that you press during panics when you feel you're about to fall. It gives you some awesome encouraging quotes from veteran rebooters and it also has a forum like that one, but one forum is more than enough for me. :D 4 days nofap so far.
Fails: HELLISH urges. I try to keep myself busy where I should be resting, even during free times I keep myself busy with stuff that consumes my energy and that compromises my ability to concentrate on studying the following day. during my 22 day streak, I searched porn twice but kept navigating for a couple of minutes while looking either at the address bar or at the faces of the wretched actors. Why did I click on porn then? I don't even know. But at least I got a glimpse of what post-relapse guilt would look like. at least I needed that at the moment.
 

BlueHeronFan

Respected Member
Stay strong, friend! I think we're in a pretty similar spot: I'm on day 22 today, and I'm feeling the urges creep back in. That's when it really counts, and I think that's where this community will help the most. We can get through this together.

And good luck with your exams!
 

Omarov

Member
Successes: 26 days no pmo! I'm more hellbent on healing and rewiring my mind. I don't want to think of porn ever again. I don't want to objectify women ever again. I want to be normal, the normal person everybody I know thinks I am.
Urges are less these days than they were before. I don't care if that's called flatline or not, but the most important fact is that urges will come and go, there will be some hard days and some easy ones. That doesn't mean I should act on the urges when they're so hard on me, there will come another day where they're easier to handle.
Fails: I've been hovering on the border of relapsing during my 26 days of no pmo. I sometimes search porn but don't stare. I know it's stupid, but sometimes it's not all useless; when I do this, I feel some guilt and this resolves me more to refuse to pmo and fend off the urge. Another benefit is that it somehow tricks my mind that I've already fulfilled its craves, so it stops asking me to search porn. I'm not planning to keep doing this though. I've also restarted my nofap streaks several times. It's been hard for me to stay as clean as I wanted because I have a plan in mind that applies for the next 4 months (so I'm kinda giving myself a break from hard more except for avoiding pmo)
Ok, so that's my plan for the coming 4 months.... I'm a muslim, and we're expecting the month of Ramadan on the 5th of May. I've rarely ever relapsed during that month. It acts as a safe haven for me when I want to take a break from relapsing or as a kickstart for one of my long no pmo streaks. But in the previous years I've always relapsed shortly after the month ends. Now, it's almost 3 months till the safe month starts, so my plan is to restart my longest ever streak (90 days) which I've wasted days after I started posting on this forum. I know I can do 90 clean days because I've done it before, and once those 90 days end, the safe month will start, and at the end of it I'll be left with 4 absolutely clean months plus one month (this January) which has not been so clean, but at least it was pmo free.
It's my absolutely last chance to change my life. If I go back to pmoing after all that gearing up and all the big guns of logic I have and all the panic buttons I can click when I'm in danger, then nothing else will rescue me from the trap I've fallen into since uncensored internet was installed in our house when I was a kid.
 

BlueHeronFan

Respected Member
26!

It sounds like you have a great plan. More than that, though, it sounds like you have a huge desire to beat this. I think that's key. One time, someone told me that desire makes the difference. We can wish that things were different all day, but it's only when we find real desire and actually start changing--and want a life without porn more than we want porn--that we can really get ourselves out of this mess.

On some level, I guess your fails are fails--but they are a sign that you want to stay clean more than you want to view porn. Even when you're there searching it, you can stop yourself and get away. I've done similar things and know that guilt, but I have to say that it is progress and a sign that things are improving.
 
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