Starting my 30s Porn Free, one day at a time

MindOverModem

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jixu said:
The concept of "no failing, only learning" is a great one and is useful for not only the porn journey but for many facets of life, including the career quest. Like you, I am also paying more attention to diet in the sense of trying to cut down on sugar; I'm not fanatical about it but it sure is something that needs to be moderated.

Keep plowing ahead and great job on the double digits!

Thank you, my friend. I wish you luck cutting back on the sugar; not an easy thing to do! Moderation is always hard. It's easier to go to the extreme of abstaining from something, but when it comes to sex or food, a life without them isn't desirable or even possible. That's what makes addiction issues related to these things much trickier to deal with than drugs or alcohol.

I got the learning thing from Brazillian jiu-jitsu, but it really applies to almost everything in life, like you said. We're all here to learn. And the thing is, you end up learning whether you want to or not. In my experience, I either learn by making the same mistakes over and over until I can't take it anymore and get willing to try something different OR by doing things the easy way, pausing to chose a more sensible path. 
 

MindOverModem

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Today I Battled the Craving Boss

I was driving along when I got the most INTENSE image in my head of an image from a scene I used to watch constantly. I felt an overwhelming desire to look at P, not right away because I was driving, but as soon as I got home.

NOT TODAY!

The craving got worse and worse. It felt like the urge to breathe, it was that strong. To make matters even worse, the craving called in reinforcements in the form of every stupid justification in the book. "Couldn't I just look at a still image?"

NOT TODAY!

I leaned on my reboot program. I walked myself through where I know having "just one look" will lead me.

I reminded myself that the intensity of this urge is strong evidence for why I SHOULD NOT give into it. If I really could look at a little P and call it a day, I wouldn't have such powerful cravings to do so.

I reflected on the progress I've made, and I really focused on the shame I would feel at giving that up. By not "just taking a look," I can choose not to experience that shame today. The craving passed, and I lived to write about it here.

One thing that really helped me avoid disaster was staying busy. I was out driving.  Even though I wanted to, it would have been impossible for me to use right then and there. The car felt like it was protecting me in that sense.

Gonna read and get some work done and enjoy the free time I might have spent staring into the abyss. I know I'll have to fight the boss again soon, but each battle gives me confidence that I can be the kind of guy who just doesn't look at it.

--MOM

 

ImInControl

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great posts today! you inspire me. thank you for sharing that!
we're definitely going to take that bull head on again.. but we got this. this time we are suited up with the very best tactics, experience and support.

all the best
 

MindOverModem

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zazen said:
great posts today! you inspire me. thank you for sharing that!
we're definitely going to take that bull head on again.. but we got this. this time we are suited up with the very best tactics, experience and support.

all the best

The inspiration is mutual. Thanks for reading. Wishing you strength in that battle!
 

MindOverModem

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DAY 12

Not a lot to report today. It's one of those days that makes me say "this must be what 'normal' feels like" no intense ups and downs. No cravings yet, it's the first day I've made it to lunchtime without at least one major craving.

Something I've started working into my reboot is waking up early. Gamechanger. It feels so good to get shit done before other people are even awake. I've "won" the past few days, getting everything done that I need to, before lunch. The afternoon becomes a bonus at that point.

--MOM
 

MindOverModem

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Day 13

Winning the day so far, and it's not even lunchtime. I'm getting so much more done compared to a few weeks ago that I'm having to put more on my to-do list every day because I'm finishing the important stuff early.

Weird dreams last night, dreaming not about sex but P. Fucking strange how that works, but it's not surprising.

One thing I can say so far, it's UNREAL how much meditation helps. With practice, you learn to slow the moment down and let go of your thoughts. It's like dodging bullets in the Matrix, no joke. Since I've stepped up the meditation to twice per day and added long walks without my phone, it has become so much easier to see a craving coming and just let pass without freaking out and feeling like I need to look at P or beat myself up for having the occasional urge. Lifesaver.
 

Pete McVries

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I've been wanting to get into meditation for soooo long. I tried it several times whether it be meditation on my own or guided meditation with apps like "headspace". But I always felt like it didn't help me. There was no feeling of epiphany or like I had success. Perhaps, I was too results-orientated... If you don't mind and have the time, can you link me some helpful sources how to get started? Advice in general on meditation would be greatly appreciated!

Take care!
 

MindOverModem

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Pete McVries said:
I've been wanting to get into meditation for soooo long. I tried it several times whether it be meditation on my own or guided meditation with apps like "headspace". But I always felt like it didn't help me. There was no feeling of epiphany or like I had success. Perhaps, I was too results-orientated... If you don't mind and have the time, can you link me some helpful sources how to get started? Advice in general on meditation would be greatly appreciated!

Take care!

Of course! Headspace is a great place to start. Sometimes it's a matter of trying different things and seeing what works. Some people prefer a mantra meditation, others do better with mindfulness or zazen.

I'm not an expert, but I've been doing it every day  for 8 years now, and it has--no exageration--changed my life. I would probably be dead if it wasn't for meditation.

But to your point about looking for something. That sounds like it could be what made it not work for you. There's no goal in meditation. It's not supposed to get you anywhere. It's just a practice of observing your thoughts without reacting to them. The reason you have an object of meditation, like your breath or a mantra or counting, is so you have something to "anchor" you that you can come back to when your mind wanders (which it will.)

It's not about not thinking or turning your thoughts off. That's not even possible. Instead, you try to observe whatever you're experiencing and thinking in the present moment. It's a subtle thing, but it comes down to the difference between getting caught up in a thought vs. noticing that a thought is just a thought.

One way I've heard it described is that each time you catch yourself wandering off into thoughts, that's like a "rep" in the gym. The more you practice, the easier it is to notice these things. You sit there, you have an itch. Does scratching the itch fix anything? what if you just sit there and feel what it's like to itch?

The main thing is consistency. It's better to do 5 minutes every day than to sit for a long time when you really "feel like it." It's about developing a practice, not just using it to chill out when you feel like you need it.

Anyway, here are some resources.

The simplest practice is counting to 10. And by simplest, I don't mean dumbed-down or basic. Many serious zen students start that way. Here's an outstanding article by Mark Manson on meditation. In it he describes the counting to 10 practice. He also argues why you should meditate:
https://markmanson.net/meditation

Other than that, Headspace might be worth another try. There's an outstanding book called Mindfulness in Plain English.

Ultimately,

How to Meditate: https://www.mindful.org/how-to-meditate/
20 tips for Beginnners: https://zenhabits.net/meditation-guide/

I hope this helps. I'll post more later when I have the time.

--MOM
 

MindOverModem

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Meditation Speeds up your Reboot

One thing I'd say to everyone. Meditation is super helpful if you're dealing with the "when the hell am I going to get better?" feeling. As the science shows, rebooting is about neuroplasticity. Meditation has been proven to restructure the brain in ways that improve the same functions that are damaged by P addiction.

Books on P addiction like Fortify recommend meditation or even just "quiet time." Addiction experts going back to the founders of AA in the 1930s have recommended meditation for breaking cycles of addiction and dependence.

It works.
 

Pete McVries

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Thanks your reply, MOM. I'll try getting into meditation again come next week and I'll plan on doing it regularly to develop some kind of consistency.
 

MindOverModem

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DAY 14

Shame is a weird thing. Today I was thinking about the times I've wasted money on cams and how the kind of person who does that might not have the best internet privacy standards. I got a little panicked thinking the whole world could see my cam chats. At some point, I realized nobody cares. But for a brief moment, I felt bad and feeling bad made me want to do some camming, the same thing that had me freaking out. INSANE.

Anyway, taking some time to pause and focus on the progress I'm making and all the positive things  that can come from a P free existence.

WEEK 2

Things are getting better. I'm feeling a little more awake in general and the cravings are getting easier to manage. That said, I've noticed that instead of constant little cravings I'll get a massive one every now and then. I'm focusing on moving forward and being present. Ready to start strong in week 3.
 

MindOverModem

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Pete McVries said:
Thanks your reply, MOM. I'll try getting into meditation again come next week and I'll plan on doing it regularly to develop some kind of consistency.

Why not start today? Five minutes right now?

The thing I say to guys I sponsor in AA is to just set a timer and spend 10 minutes doing nothing every day. It's a good way to start anyway.

Best of luck
 

MindOverModem

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benhlau said:
It's like that scene in Fight Club when he's trying to call off his own henchmen and they're like

Exactly. I mentioned that earlier. When it comes to my own excuses, I keep saying "you said you were gonna say that..."
 

MindOverModem

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DAY 15

One of my favorite articles on quitting P is this one by Mark Manson: https://markmanson.net/pornography-can-ruin-your-sex-life

In it, he talks about how the first two weeks were fucked up and hard and his sex drive was all over the place. By weeks 3 and 4, his sex drive got super high and stayed that way. You see guys posting about flatlining for months and months, but so far my experience has been closer to what Manson describes. I'm starting my third week feeling much calmer and more energetic. I think I had a grand total of one P craving yesterday, but my desire for real sex was off the charts. This is the opposite of the end of the first week where I was having cravings literally every two minutes but was kind of indifferent to sex.

It feels good to chill out.

--MOM
 

MindOverModem

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DAY 16
Ups and Downs

The moodiness is nowhere near as bad as it was last week. Horniness and energy levels are all over the place, however. I'm focusing on just staying present and riding the wave of whatever the "now" contains. Not a whole lot to say today.

I've heard people who tried to quit drinking on their own that they feel more sober after a short time in real recovery than in months of trying to do it on their own. That's how this reboot feels for me. I've gone much longer without looking at P in the past, but I feel healthier this time aroud after just 16 days.

--MOM
 

Pete McVries

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MindOverModem said:
DAY 15

One of my favorite articles on quitting P is this one by Mark Manson: https://markmanson.net/pornography-can-ruin-your-sex-life

In it, he talks about how the first two weeks were fucked up and hard and his sex drive was all over the place. By weeks 3 and 4, his sex drive got super high and stayed that way. You see guys posting about flatlining for months and months, but so far my experience has been closer to what Manson describes. I'm starting my third week feeling much calmer and more energetic. I think I had a grand total of one P craving yesterday, but my desire for real sex was off the charts. This is the opposite of the end of the first week where I was having cravings literally every two minutes but was kind of indifferent to sex.

It feels good to chill out.

--MOM

Poor souls who experience super long and repeating flatlines. My experience is the same as yours. I only had one flatline straight from the beginning of the reboot until day 26 and that was it.

Keep it up!
 

MindOverModem

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Yeah, man! that's good to hear. This might sound weird, but a part of me has been wondering, "when am I going to start my months-long flatline." I guess if you're good, you're good. Now, I've definitely noticed moments, like all afternoon yesterday, where I'm not super interested in anything sexual and it's just like a blank spot, but I find I usually snap right out of it pretty quick.

Obviously, I'm not diminishing the experience of anyone who does struggle with a massive flatline (it must be a nightmare) but that hasn't been my experience.
 

MindOverModem

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DAY 17

Not much to say today, because today felt so stable! no serious ups and downs, but things weren't blank and flat either.

One thing I recommend to all rebooters: go for long walks without your phone. I had some free time I used this afternoon to just stroll and take in the world around me. came back focused and recharged.
 

MindOverModem

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DAY 18

Today was pretty good. One MASSIVE craving in the morning; reminds me I have to stay frosty and avoid thinking I have this all figured out. Had some really good news in my personal life today and some mildly bad news at work. It's plain to see how much I relied on P to regulate my emotions. In the case of both good and bad news, there's something in my brain that says "but wait, isn't there something I'm supposed to do right now..." It's not a voice that screams "hey, you, go look at P!" but I felt restless. I'm happy to have some tools now to deal with that feeling!

--MOM
 
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