My journey to be a better man.

DavS

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Since you may loose her anyway, perhaps you should explain what you are working on, and how it could change everything.
If you start with the hopeful side of this, and explain an addiction is the root cause, its just possible she may finally understand.
Just a thought I had. You have a better idea if this could work.
 

guitar1968

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Since you can’t talk to your wife about it, maybe you can talk to her about how some other self work is helping you change. I’ll bet your marriage is worth saving, and porn was f***ing it up.
Well, my porn use certainly wasn't helping! I know for sure it made me expect things from my wife that she never was comfortable with. And, since I watched so much porn for so long, I just thought she should be doing those things. But, are wives are not porn stars, nor are we and to expect that kind of behavior is madness. But that is the world I grew up in and it is very hard at 53 to reshape the narrative in my head. This leads very nicely into my post for today.

Just a heads up, there may be some triggers in this post for some. Just want to give a heads up in case I get too close to a line that will cause an issue for someone.

On Saturday I went to check my latest followers on Twitter. I had a new follower who was gay and posted tons of nude shots of himself and many likes and retweets of serious, hard core gay porn. I want to emphasize before I go too far into this that I have no problems with homosexuality or being gay, bi, pan, whatever. I'm very open minded. However, this has been a long struggle for me and how I view myself and my sexuality.

My mother and father both had dirty magazines at our house. When my brothers and I were very young we found their stash of Playboy, Playgirl and Penthouse magazines. We looked at all of it. Guys and gals included. I was extremely intrigued by the nude men as well as the women. As I grew older and more porn became available, I would start to masturbate to gay pron as well as straight porn and transsexual porn. It was always a very strange thing to me that I could become so aroused watching gay guys having sex. I never looked at guys at the mall, the beach or on the street. Never even thought about sex with them, but when the clothes came off, I was turned on. I discovered that I was very turned off by watching the men kiss each other or hold each other like male/female couples did. I just assumed I was bisexual on some level, maybe not fully bisexual, but lets say open to sex with both men and women. As time went on and I got more and more addicted to porn, especially when high speed internet came around I found myself masturbating more and more to trans and gay porn, but my feelings for men still never changed. I even had a couple of encounters with men. Just oral sex, no penetration and although I did kiss during some of the play it turned me off as much as it did watching it.

This leads me to this weekends triggers. As I was scrolling through this new followers feed, I started to get very aroused. I should have clicked away sooner, but I felt everything coming alive. I did finally click out after a minute or two, took a few breaths and walked away. No PMO, no MO, no searching for more. However, I've had a bit of a cloud in my head since seeing it and it brought up a lot of those old feelings of not really knowing if I'm bi or not. I have no way of truly knowing because even before puberty we were looking at porn, both with men and women. Again, I came to terms with these feelings a long time ago and I'm not here struggling or feeling bad for myself. I'm just more curious than anything. What if I never saw porn? Would I never have been drawn to these other types of sex? Or, are there many shades of bisexuality that draws me to just certain parts of the male anatomy? I just can't imagine myself walking hand in hand down the beach with another man and coming home to cuddle on the couch, but boy can I imagine some hot gay sex.

So, anyway. I did see porn this weekend for a few minutes. I didn't act on it. I didn't seek it out. I didn't let it derail me. But it certainly hit a chord in my head that has had me thinking about all of this stuff. Especially with things not going well with my wife and I and it makes me wonder if we don't make it would I explore more of this type of sexual relationship or would that just be going back to the porn world that got me here.

Never a dull moment in this addicts mind. Oh well, I'm still hanging in there. I'm sure this won't be the last time I stumble upon porn. The world is full of it. I'm just really pleased I was able to walk away.

Have a great day everyone.
 

DavS

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It’s been many years since I studied them in school, but I believe Masters and Johnson theorized that we’re all partially bi at birth, and that cultural and parental conditioning shape our sexual identity. My point is that bisexuality would be a lot more common if it weren’t taboo.
 

Phineas 808

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Guitar. Porn is notorious for causing confusion in one's sexual orientation. This hasn't been so for me, perse. But I can say that things from my past, especially as a runaway, that there were encounters that part of me wanted or longed for at times- but in reality, like you said, two men kissing, holding each other intimately, yuck! <--- that's me, no offense to those who are emotionally attracted to the same sex.

Porn is evil, because it plays on our natural longing for emotional and intimate connection. This occurs in hyper-sexualizing things, and bypasses any real emotion or intimate connection.

Only by a period of abstaining or 'rebooting' can we clear the false images, the hyper-sexualized images from our mind, and then when we feel we've been healed, we can determine then what our true 'tastes' or orientation are. I wouldn't base any serious decision as to 'identity' now until such inner healing occurs.
 

guitar1968

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Guitar. Porn is notorious for causing confusion in one's sexual orientation. This hasn't been so for me, perse. But I can say that things from my past, especially as a runaway, that there were encounters that part of me wanted or longed for at times- but in reality, like you said, two men kissing, holding each other intimately, yuck! <--- that's me, no offense to those who are emotionally attracted to the same sex.

Porn is evil, because it plays on our natural longing for emotional and intimate connection. This occurs in hyper-sexualizing things, and bypasses any real emotion or intimate connection.

Only by a period of abstaining or 'rebooting' can we clear the false images, the hyper-sexualized images from our mind, and then when we feel we've been healed, we can determine then what our true 'tastes' or orientation are. I wouldn't base any serious decision as to 'identity' now until such inner healing occurs.
So, I totally agree with you here. My period of abstaining is getting some decent momentum now. I hadn't really seen any gay porn for quite some time and you know what? I wasn't thinking about sex with men. It just wasn't there. It took seeing these graphic images to bring it all back. However, I still check out women wherever I go. So, I think I know mostly where it comes from. And again, I'm also not saying anything is wrong with being gay. I'm just thinking a lot of my desires come from my lifelong porn addiction. I truly don't stress about my past interactions with men, and I did enjoy a good deal of what went down. I just know that I was only part way in so to speak. It just really hit me again this weekend after not thinking about it for several months. It's amazing how it can fade when you are away from it.
 

guitar1968

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All good today. It was good to come here yesterday and dump my weekend encounter with porn. It really truly helps to write it down instead of keeping it all bottled up inside.

Have a great day everyone.
 

guitar1968

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Short post today. Heading into a meeting. All is well here. Marching towards my 90 day hard mode challenge. I think I need it to get calm myself and my body down. So far so good. I believe it's 32 days today and 132 days with no PMO.

Stay strong and find your inner peace and happiness. Look for everything you can be grateful for. I know I'm not the best at this sometimes, but when you look at the world we live in and all the problems and suffering, it gets a little easier so see everything you have and how lucky you are to have it. I have a good business, a wonderful daughter, a wife and I make music just about every day and that brings a lot of peace to me.

Thanks everyone for being there.
 

guitar1968

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All good today friends. I'm busy with so many things which makes it much easier to keep my mind off of porn. I know it is always right there around the corner waiting for a moment to sneak in, but I'm keeping it at bay and feeling good. Hope you all are as well.

Stay strong!
 

guitar1968

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Another fine weekend. I think about porn less and less. My wife and daughter were out of the house yesterday and I never even thought about porn. I can't believe it. I just play guitar, watch good shows and talk with friends. I can't believe I'm the same guy who just over 150 days ago would keep a browser open most of the day with porn and chat rooms open. There is a light at the the end of the tunnel and it is getting much brighter.

Thanks all. Keep fighting and keep coming back here. I seem to write more in other people's journal than my own right now, but I still want to keep this one going. It's my life line.
 

Phineas 808

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As always, guitar, it’s exciting to read of your journey and continued transformation!

Keep up the good work!
 

JerryTX

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Another fine weekend. I think about porn less and less. My wife and daughter were out of the house yesterday and I never even thought about porn. I can't believe it. I just play guitar, watch good shows and talk with friends. I can't believe I'm the same guy who just over 150 days ago would keep a browser open most of the day with porn and chat rooms open. There is a light at the the end of the tunnel and it is getting much brighter.

Thanks all. Keep fighting and keep coming back here. I seem to write more in other people's journal than my own right now, but I still want to keep this one going. It's my life line.
This is awesome news! So happy for you and it's great to see how far you've come!
 

guitar1968

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A new thing I just realized today.

School started for my daughter. She goes to school about 20 minutes away so every afternoon my wife goes to pick her up. It's usually a 1 hour round trip. Most days if I didn't have a meeting as soon as she was out the door I would go right to PMO. I had my 60 minute time frame and often an idea of what I wanted to look at. That got messed up last year with covid, but today my wife left for pickup and I just kept working. Just realized about 30 minutes in that this used to be my time for PMO. So glad that is not the first thought in my head any longer!!!
 

guitar1968

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No PMO, MO or anything else. I'm calm and feeling like I've finally really turned a corner. I'm just not feeling the urge to seek out porn. I can't believe I'm writing that but I have such clarity about it for the first time in my life.

Keep at it everyone. You can take control of your life and walk away from porn. I always thought I needed it. I didn't. I was addicted. I don't need it at all.
 

JerryTX

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Great post Guitar! Love that you are conquering this beast. I too feel better about this than I could have imagined. Not even sure the number of days but to "preplan" PMO used to be a normal. I can't even think of the last time that thought crossed my mind! So thankful for this!
 

guitar1968

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I just realized today that I'm misquoting my time "clean"- I'm at 139 days today. I looked it up wrong before so I believe I've said in the 150's but I started April 15 which is very easy to remember and I started my 90 day abstinence challenge at day 100. So, I'm at 39 days on that little journey.

Just wanted to be clear on here and not look like I'm trying to pad my numbers. As I've said to a few people here on the forum, there is no need to lie or exaggerate or downplay anything. We're here to get better and that's what I'm doing.

Good news is 150 days is not far away!
 

JerryTX

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I just realized today that I'm misquoting my time "clean"- I'm at 139 days today. I looked it up wrong before so I believe I've said in the 150's but I started April 15 which is very easy to remember and I started my 90 day abstinence challenge at day 100. So, I'm at 39 days on that little journey.

Just wanted to be clear on here and not look like I'm trying to pad my numbers. As I've said to a few people here on the forum, there is no need to lie or exaggerate or downplay anything. We're here to get better and that's what I'm doing.

Good news is 150 days is not far away!
LOL! I wasn't worried about your numbers!! I am just impressed with your perseverance and results! I haven't even looked at "days" in awhile but I know how I / we feel! Great job bud!
 

Phineas 808

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I just realized today that I'm misquoting my time "clean"- I'm at 139 days today. I looked it up wrong before so I believe I've said in the 150's but I started April 15 which is very easy to remember and I started my 90 day abstinence challenge at day 100. So, I'm at 39 days on that little journey.

Just wanted to be clear on here and not look like I'm trying to pad my numbers. As I've said to a few people here on the forum, there is no need to lie or exaggerate or downplay anything. We're here to get better and that's what I'm doing.

Good news is 150 days is not far away!

What’s a few days difference when porn is not an option...?

You’re doing great, brother!
 
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