Lifting the fog...

neon tiger

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Ive struggled with PMO for about fifteen years, and specifically with online porn over the last seven years or so. Before online, i was acting out on actual sexual behavior, and joined SAA, which was very helpful.  But my addictive behavior morphed into substance abuse, which led me to rehab and a major relocation (Puerto Rico to New England). With that on check, online porn became the latest manifestation of my addiction.  There have been some major accomplishments along the way, including giving up smoking, committing to exercise and healthy eating, and completing two post graduate degrees.  But what brings me to give reboot a serious committed chance is not so straightforward.

See, I have a condition on my right eye that comes and goes in response to stress, particularly the elevated levels of cortisol produced during extended period of stress. When it expresses itself, my retina goes from flat to a dome shape that distorts my vision (right now, everything through that eye looks mangled, squeezed in, drab and darker; the other eye compensates for the image, but I constantly feel my vision fighting to produce a clear image). Its been on and off for almost three years.

I just moved from a teaching to an administrative position, and the demands of this position are very high, not only in terms of tasks, but also in communication and relationships.  I have been almost in a sustained state of anxiety since September (of course the eye was going to act out).  But this is when PMO comes in the equation- a big part of the anxiety i experience comes from the inability (caused my PMO) to connect with others, and being in a high profile position where i have to communicate with employees, parents, and big stakeholders, is terrifying.  Also, i had to relocate for this job, so i left behind the small handful of people i did have in my life for friendship and support, plus i am single so i moved here my myself ( I tend to have a hard time connecting with others, socially and romantically- not sure if it is purely because of PMO, but it definitely amplifies it). I feel like PMO impairs my capacity to build relations in a new town and work setting because PMO has isolated me to the point of not having  anything to share, or relate to with others. I was very isolated in my previous setting too, but everything was familiar- the job and co-workers, the town, the neighborhood)

So rebooting looks like the only way for me to go (and i know that sounds very mental and rational, but i also mean it in a very fundamental way.  I want what everyone else does- a meaningful, fun, ands sexually satisfying relationship; a sense of belonging and a range of social circles to feel connected.  And I am starting to wonder if i missed my chance at a full, purposeful life for good).  But i have spent the entire day today reading and watching videos about rebooting and it seem like i am bracing myself for quite a daunting task. I don't know if i can afford the luxury to be inefficient at this job right now. I am not saying i won't give it a chance, but i need strategies and tools to get through this.

I already have two days with no fap. Today would be my third.  And today I deleted my dating apps (I have only been drawn sexually to men in my life, but i occasionally wonder if even that is true of myself, as i have attempted a few relations with men and haven't been able to get into them). 

Anyway, this is where i stand today. And i am writing to make myself accountable to this commitment. 

Any advise or words of wisdom will be greatly appreciated.
 

Jason

Member
Hello my name is Jason and I can relate to your story rebooting is the best thing you can do for your life.  In addition I struggle with anxiety and I would recommend seeing a counselor.  I am actually in a recovery group of people who also are overcoming anxiety and many of them are very successful in their particular careers but deal with the monster of anxiety.  Check out the article in "The Atlantic" entitled "Surviving anxiety" by Scott Stossel you will laugh and cry your ass off.  As they say here in this reboot nation keep truckin friend!
 

neon tiger

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Hello Jason.
I located the article and will read later. Thank you.
I went back and checked some of your older posts (Im big on analogies, so they often resonated with me).  I noticed that you have reset over triggers.  It seems that you became more mindful of those triggers after putting some time together. I feel like keeping it simple for now in my case, just defining no PMO as intentional porn watching or any MO.  I just feel like adding triggers would have me resetting every couple hours right now. I can certainly see how they lead to PMO, but i want to practice some gentleness to myself, as i am trying to take the guilt and shame out of the equation.
 
I was interested to read your story and wanted to wish you luck on your journey.

I'm far from an expert in what you need to do, but I believe that there is a different method that works for everyone; you just might need to find what it is first.

I find that keeping myself busy is the best method. When my mind isn't occupied my thoughts can drift towards my addiction, which is never a good thing.
 

neon tiger

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I made it through last nite, and survived the day, and caught my PMO thinking in action on occasions at the grocery store and a pub a few of us from work went to after work. It sucked to catch myself going to those thoughts in my mind, but i made a conscious decision not to feel guilt or shame about it. I also found myself discussing some rather delicate topics with my boss today, and i mean that in a positive way.

I am also giving up coffee because stimulants worsen the eye condition. So i feel like i am walking a little bit on thin ice.  Ice will thicken though if keep adding time between me and my last PMO...

 

neon tiger

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Made it through another night, so I'm on day 5 now. anxiety has been through the roof.  I feel like I'm coming to, which is very scary, but also reaffirming somehow.  Reaffirming because i feel some vague sense of validation of myself as a whole being, and scary because i feel somehow disarmed and unguarded to navigate my daily life and all it is sending my way.  I know its perception, and perception is not rarity, but right now it feels like it is. I am hopeful and trusting of the process, thanks to all your stories and testimonies. 

 

neon tiger

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Just about to wrap up day 6. Today felt a little brighter.  Anxiety eased up on me a little bit. I felt clearer, more focused and productive. 

Big red Flag. 

Ive been here before. That first breadth of fresh air after being too long in this mental stench. Then comes the entitlement, then the negotiation, then I am back at ground zero.  Ive tried this before. Multiple times. I haven't tried it without the help of Reboot nation though.  It is right now my only way to hold myself accountable.  Otherwise, negotiating, compromising, is easy- I am only letting myself down (...)

Here there's a sense that WE are doing it together, and somehow your recovery depends on mine and vice versa. Plus, journaling here is my strategy- my replacement of the habit i want to get rid of. I am looking forward to recovering (or maybe just enveloping for the first time) a sense of belonging, of connection with my tribe- my human tribe.

I am also looking forward to recover the belief that I can be sexually functional and hard with someone i am emotionally connected with. I cannot say i cannot get hard without porn, because i can, but the nature of the physical encounter has to be as impersonal and fantasy based as the porn i watch.  As soon as I develop a connection with someone, there goes the hard on.  And pills have been inconsistent with helping- sometimes they do the trick, sometimes they dont.  It feel awful when my body is  sending the complete opposite message of what you want it to.

Soooo- for those reason, I'm gonna keep trucking....

 

neon tiger

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Logging in another day towards my stage one goal. Today got difficult again.  Lots of anxiety, to the point my voice comes out broken at times.  Paying attention to my thinking throughout the day, realizing how mangled it is.  Putting a lot of effort on not having feelings os shame or guilt while i pay attention to  my thinking.

I am exhausted, but today i am reaffirming my resolve.
 

neon tiger

Active Member
Trucking along. Today was idle emotionally, in fact my mind felt somewhat clearer and more productive at work, but in a rather subtle, not overconfident way. Feeling a little self pity over the state of isolation I currently am (party circumstantial, partly elf created), wishing i had a network of friends to go have dinner or hang out with, but that feeling is one of my core triggers, so i have to be mindful of that.  Its the faint "smell" that blinds me and drives me to porn and MO before i know it. 

Very often while PMO I would get kind of inebriated- very dizzy in fact, almost like i was getting a shot of opioids.  I am sure i was somehow stimulating the production of dopamine or something like that, but can someone confirm this with me?  I think i played with edging and delayed O, but I have this idea that it east because it wasn't hours like other stories I've heard (then again, i am comparing to downplay my own shit) i would spend 45 to 60 minutes on any given session, which were every day...

Im am not planning on today, and i am making a conscious decision not to.

 

neon tiger

Active Member
Wow, ten days!

Not sure when was the last time i put together that much time- years for sure.
I am somewhat of a mess. Good thing i had the weekend to refuel a bit, but anxiety has been constant. I feel it physically- chest, neck, my voice comes out broken (I'm also giving up coffee- taking black tea). Going back to work tomorrow, and i dont foresee it getting much better, but we will see. 

"Life begins at the end of your comfort zone" -Walsch

Man, am i alive these days...
 

neon tiger

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So, today i had the best day I've had since i started this rebooting journey.  Virtually no anxiety, and felt focused, productive, and outgoing. Now, bear in mind, theres other variables I'm grappling with (giving up coffee, etc).  But when i was researching solution for high levels of stress and cortisol i came across something called rhodiola, which is a ginger relative that has proven to reduce cortisol levels. So yesterday, i got rhodiola in drops to add to juice or tea, plus i got a ginkgo blend tea that also has rhodiola.  I am giving these two the credit for taking the edge off today- and i am glad, because i dont know how much longer i was going to be able to go on like i did last week before giving in ,or loosing it altogether,

Again, feeling good is a red flag for me.  I must remember to stay grateful instead of feeling entitled. I already had creeping PMO thoughts, which i haven't entertained, but I've had them nonetheless- without seeking them, and i must remain vigilant so i can kick them away. 

And my massage therapist had a cancellation tomorrow so she will be able to see me after all-  yay!!!

reaching my first goal in a few days- looking forward to set up a new one. Keeping goals small and renewing them builds my self esteem :)
 

neon tiger

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Today I am just reposting what i just wrote on another member's wall, as it became a revelation to myself, and i believe a key piece of my story and understanding my own PMO patterns

I am off today, and having a massage  :).  i really hope that this dead arousal I've been for a couple days carries on at least past this massage, because i really need it, and wouldn't like to have to stress about an awkward situation. Keep trucking y'all.

Repost below:

If you do as you said on your last post, you should be back here today and tomorrow.  Hope you do, First of all because if you do, you have seven days under your belt- congrats!.  Second, after reading your thread, its clear that no one on here believes this is about perfection, but progress- thats a variation of a 12 step slogan btw ;), so hope you come back whether you have those days or now.

But on a selfish note, i hope you come back because there were so many ways in which your story and mine are the same.  We are about the same age (i turned 40 in august).  Father was not abusive, but definitely distant and neglectful. I got into porn through him too.  One night o got up at night (maybe i was 10), and found him PMO in the living room.  He didn't notice me first, but i got up a couple other times and after a few i just walked in on him. He didn't turn it off- he stopped M though. He never tried to do anything to/with me, but he must've found it a rite of passage that his little one was checking out porn.  On my following birthday he wrote on my birthday card that he was proud of my maturity. (Quite a definition of maturity I got at that age).  I found his stash and before long i was taking turns with him, waiting for him to go to bed so i can go and feast.  I would borrow one or two movies and bring them to sleepovers with my cousin (no acting out either).

This is the most honest and eloquent i think i have been regrading that piece. I think i will copy and post on my own journal...

I also had my run with SAA for a couple years. It wasn't my unmanageability with porn that brought me there at the time (thought it should've earlier on if i saw it as that bad of a problem); i had actually escalated from porn to acting out, engaging in casual sex in a way that was eating up my time and life energy (Such a contradiction because it was exactly when i was committed to yoga and my physical and spiritual well being). For me, it made a huge positive change, but my group was not big enough to have long term sobriety and diversity that would allow me to connect with someone to go through the steps. I went for about 2 years.

College, social anxiety, trying to be honest with another too early (thank you dhira for describing so eloquently and compassionately  the self serving nature of such action), the benefits of being single. I felt very connected to your experiences. 

I am coming up at my first goal, which is 14 days.  This is one thing that i love about this blog. I get to set my own goal. In a 12 step program you celebrate 24 hours, then 30 days. I need to build my confidence,  and for me that means setting and making small manageable goals.  Its the way it has worked when i quit cigarettes, started exercising, gave up fast food, other kinds of unhealthy food, milk, and most recently coffee. (No i didn't do all these overnight- more over the past 7-8 years). At 14, i will set a new goal.

And by the way, i don't want to sound cocky when i say 'when i reach 14'.  I know confidence is one of my biggest red flags.  This is when i need to get uber vigilant. It is easy to see and feel the pain of PMO, and act on it when you are in the agony of it. A good day hazes my perception, makes me feel entitled. This has been one of my biggest reminders in the last few days.

Hope you make it back, and to hear from you.

Rob
 

neon tiger

Active Member
Day 12

Today i woke up and did a 20 minute meditation that two unrelated friends talked to me about over the last four days.  (That Oprah/Deepak meditation challenge is spreading like spilled flour). Ive known that meditation was going to make its way into this process one sooner or later.

So i didn't get a boner on the massage table- thats good. I am having bursts of horniness here and there, but i am not lying too much attention to them because i don't know if they are genuine desire to be with a person, or triggers of fantasizing. I definitely caught up one that was a trigger, so i shut it on its tracks.  So if my libido dies for a week or two in this process, much better. I am in no rush.

Thank you all for posting here.  You have been my companions and my saviors.  Don't go anywhere- progress not perfection.
 

neon tiger

Active Member
Wait- do i reach my first goal tomorrow?!?!

Today... well, I have not PMO'ed. Also, i was anxiety free, focused, in the zone, and in control. But then i ran out of of fuel and felt tired.  That sounds very normal, but what was VERY different about it is that i just called it a day and came home.  On other occasions, i would've downed some caffeine, and pushed myself in the gym and and up coming home late, hungry and restless. Today (and also yesterday), I've been in what you might call a state of contemplation. I am paying attention to my physical, mental and emotional state in a very conscious way- as if i was observing those aspects on someone else.  I got up at 5:00 and made a meditation- something I've been wanting to get to and into.  My hopes are to do it again tomorrow, and the next day, and the next day, and...

Now its 9:00 and i am passing out in the sofa. Ill probably go to bed soon, which is unseen of me to be in bed this early. Most of my PMO acting out happened at bedtime, so this is where i am working hard on changing habits. Reboot nation has been my life savior.  I give it the bulk of the credit for getting me to 13 days. My mind feels clearer, and i feel reluctantly full of hope and optimism.  I dont feel horny, but i miss the sensations.  Makes sense, no?

 

neon tiger

Active Member
14 days today. Goal 1 reached.

I am so happy to say that the last four days have been amazing!  Anxiety is lifted, i feel focused, energized, valuable and valued at work. I also have found myself having more humor and assertiveness. These came after two days of centering myself after five days of pure hell and disabling anxiety.  I am sure the pendulum will swing again, though i count it will swing that heavily.

Ive done a few things in the past six days that believe have helped tremendously. I went for a very long nature walk; i started taking herbal supplements to ease anxiety and increase focus; I went for a massage on Tuesday; Ive connected with loved ones over the phone; started meditating upon waking up yesterday- today was day two.

But nothing like coming to reboot nation, posting on my journal, and reading your journeys to keep me from pmo'ing for 14 days.  Without you all I would've forgotten by now why porn is a problem for me, i would've felt entitled and deserving and i would've fell back on my deep seeded neural pathways, which are still very much alive.

In the sex department, i feel kind of dead- and i am fine with it at this time.  I get triggers daily, at the gym, on an image popping on the internet, or in my mind. But they are not sexual desire- they are impulses, dopamine teasers. We will see what this becomes.

Today i am grateful.
 

CrazyGopher

Active Member
Congratulations on reaching your 14-day goal! I have been reading your journal for a while, but this was the first time I felt it was right to reply.

I can really relate to your experience of the 5 days of hell. I am glad to be past them once again myself. Some guys call this the flatline, but I just call it smooth sailing.

I hope the triggers do not cause problems for you, and I wish ya much love and success as your journey continues.

Best,
Gopher
 

neon tiger

Active Member
Thank you Gopher. I feel determined, and i am being very vigilant with the triggers- hopefully that will keep me from letting them creep on me.

Great gadget this counter thing btw.  (you should bring yours back!)

So last night i had my first sex dream since day one. it was hetero and i wasn't part of the action.  Interestingly, it had a human piece to it. Would share, but dont want to cause triggers.  Lets just say that there were three witnesses concerned that the guy was going to be a jerk with the girl, and he was, and everyone was dragged by it. The sex piece was quite explicit though, and in the morning i felt a little bit confused and hazed by it.  I felt like i had relapsed, not in the sense of feeling guilt or shame, but i felt somewhat drained of all the energy i have been able to harvest over the last four days of so.  The rest of the day went on alright (amazing compared to last week), but i did feel very slightly hungover. I may have got a dopamine shot from the dream or something.

Tonight i went out with some friends from the old job.  It was fun to catch up with them, and be fully present and interested in their whereabouts. This is a typical night i would've been hunting for any type of dopamine, but today i came home looking forward to update my journal. and continue this journey. 
 

neon tiger

Active Member
I am home walking a line i shouldn't be walking. Checking some you tube videos i shouldn't be checking- no porn, but a lot of sensual images.  Feeling the dopamine cycle kicking in with vengeance.

I have no plans in place for today.  Feeling lonely- there i admit it. Porn is how i have denied uncomfortable feelings in the past, how I disguise them. Cure a bad feeling with porn- like a pill.  Idling is dangerous. 

I am not letting this crap creep up on me.  I want better for my life right now. I am heading out. Will go for workout, maybe go to the office and get ahead on stuff.

This forum is the best ally i got right now, but it also puts me in front of the screen. I need to be mindful of that.  The very act of sitting on the computer is too closely associated with the PMO.

I will check back later today- and i will still be PMO free.  Today I am committing to it. Just today.  I will worry about tomorrow tomorrow.
 

neon tiger

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Well, my bathroom is the cleanest its been since i moved here- i may be a little dizzy from breathing all the cleaners...  :eek:

Thank you bathroom for keeping me on track
 
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