That’s good, because I have read many accounts of men who recovered from PIED after quitting porn, went back to porn, and developed PIED again
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Day 21 of healthy rebooting
Hey @Androg you are absolutely right. It happened to me a month ago. After a reboot of 6 weeks and having less PIED symptoms, I had a relapse and my PIED came back. I´m lucky that my PIED symptoms are healing quickly in reboot. But now I´m completely done with porn, I hate it, it only messed up my life. It destroyed my first three relationships and it nearly destroyed my current relationship some years ago, but luckily rebooting has saved it.
I´m so excited to be an ex-user!
Already 3 weeks now!
Hey @Androg you are absolutely right. It happened to me a month ago. After a reboot of 6 weeks and having less PIED symptoms, I had a relapse and my PIED came back. I´m lucky that my PIED symptoms are healing quickly in reboot. But now I´m completely done with porn, I hate it, it only messed up my life. It destroyed my first three relationships and it nearly destroyed my current relationship some years ago, but luckily rebooting has saved it.
I´m so excited to be an ex-user!
Already 3 weeks now!
strongfuture89
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Day 22 of a better life
I had one moment today that gave me a deja-vu trigger, that made me think "at this moment, I would have done pmo in the past". I told myself "no, that´s in the past, just memories".
Other than that I´m doing fine. My mindset is strong. I made my decision and I´m happy. I´ll never go back to that poison.
I had one moment today that gave me a deja-vu trigger, that made me think "at this moment, I would have done pmo in the past". I told myself "no, that´s in the past, just memories".
Other than that I´m doing fine. My mindset is strong. I made my decision and I´m happy. I´ll never go back to that poison.
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Day 23 of not needing porn anymore
Today I have some feelings of depression, I think. Yesterday it was a lack of motivation, today it´s just a sad mood. I watched a series with a beautiful presentation of a character that had a difficult youth and how he progressed in porn addiction. It was a very good insight on the thoughts of an addict and I was happy to see it being shown, so people can understand it better.
I think I´m just in a low dopamine period. Probably my dopamine is still correcting itself and may give swings up and down. It doesn´t make me crave porn, quite the opposite. I hope my dopamine levels will become normal again in the next days, that would be nice.
Today I have some feelings of depression, I think. Yesterday it was a lack of motivation, today it´s just a sad mood. I watched a series with a beautiful presentation of a character that had a difficult youth and how he progressed in porn addiction. It was a very good insight on the thoughts of an addict and I was happy to see it being shown, so people can understand it better.
Mask Girl on Netflix
Ups and downs are normal, as you know. Don’t let the lows change your course.
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Day 24 of the beautiful rollercoaster
Today was an up-day again. I almost had a nocturnal climax (or how do we call those things without going into detail?
) but luckily my dream-self was holding on to the no-pmo beliefs and I woke myself up in time.
All day I´ve been more active, happier, having a sense of competition-seeking. I think my testosterone levels are probably a bit higher today. Today I had a meeting with one of the two companies I work for; I already work there (company B) as a small part-time but it´s possible to work there full-time. I have 1 competitor also wanting the job. If I get that job, it means I´ll have to stop in the other company (company A) where I work most of the time but which led me to continue my pmo addiction the last years. So the workplace switch would be a healthy choice.
In both cases, I´ll stick to my plan of never pmo again. Even if I have to stay in company A, I´ll stay strong and focus on rebooting.
Tonight, my wife is not at home, but I will be a good, respectable husband. Triggers are meant to be ignored, they are mere symptoms of an unhealthy lifestyle I am not allowing anymore.
Today was an up-day again. I almost had a nocturnal climax (or how do we call those things without going into detail?
) but luckily my dream-self was holding on to the no-pmo beliefs and I woke myself up in time.All day I´ve been more active, happier, having a sense of competition-seeking. I think my testosterone levels are probably a bit higher today. Today I had a meeting with one of the two companies I work for; I already work there (company B) as a small part-time but it´s possible to work there full-time. I have 1 competitor also wanting the job. If I get that job, it means I´ll have to stop in the other company (company A) where I work most of the time but which led me to continue my pmo addiction the last years. So the workplace switch would be a healthy choice.
In both cases, I´ll stick to my plan of never pmo again. Even if I have to stay in company A, I´ll stay strong and focus on rebooting.
Tonight, my wife is not at home, but I will be a good, respectable husband.
Triggers are meant to be ignored, they are mere symptoms of an unhealthy lifestyle I am not allowing anymore.
strongfuture89
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Day 28
I didn´t have time to post the last three days but everything is still okay. My mind was occupied with other things, but I also didn´t meditate.
The mood swings from last week have passed. I´m feeling emotionally stable now.
My plan is to continue meditation and sports. This week I will probably know if I can change workplace.
Today is 4 weeks reboot!!!
I didn´t have time to post the last three days but everything is still okay. My mind was occupied with other things, but I also didn´t meditate.
The mood swings from last week have passed. I´m feeling emotionally stable now.
My plan is to continue meditation and sports. This week I will probably know if I can change workplace.
Today is 4 weeks reboot!!!
strongfuture89
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Day 29 of destroying porn addiction
Everything is going great. I´ll probably be able to switch to the better workplace I talked about, which will inspire me more and hopefully will reduce my urges more.
The stress about changing work makes me a bit less resistant to urges popping up in my head. I will have to do meditation moments throughout the day; those help me a lot. Destroying those stupid neural connections one day at a time.
Everything is going great. I´ll probably be able to switch to the better workplace I talked about, which will inspire me more and hopefully will reduce my urges more.
The stress about changing work makes me a bit less resistant to urges popping up in my head. I will have to do meditation moments throughout the day; those help me a lot. Destroying those stupid neural connections one day at a time.
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Day 30 of my healthy reboot
I got accepted at my new workplace! I´m looking forward to working there. The people that work there have better work ethics and are more motivated. It will be a healthier environment for me. The downside is that I now have to explain to my co-workers at my current work that I will soon leave them. I´ve had some good relationships there too, so it´s not easy to tell them. Emotional rollercoaster... Luckily I don´t feel the urge to seek comfort in pmo. My decision to change workplace is in line with my rebooting, I think.
I will tell them the bad news and try to enjoy my evening when I get home, trying to focus on the better workplace and its benefits.
I got accepted at my new workplace! I´m looking forward to working there. The people that work there have better work ethics and are more motivated. It will be a healthier environment for me. The downside is that I now have to explain to my co-workers at my current work that I will soon leave them. I´ve had some good relationships there too, so it´s not easy to tell them. Emotional rollercoaster... Luckily I don´t feel the urge to seek comfort in pmo. My decision to change workplace is in line with my rebooting, I think.
I will tell them the bad news and try to enjoy my evening when I get home, trying to focus on the better workplace and its benefits.
strongfuture89
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Day 31 of my better life
People start to identify me as ambitious, which was a trait that I haven´t heard in some time. Being in reboot gives me time and energy for great projects. I used to waste it to stupid pmo, a worthless numbing activity.
One month of improving my life! Without Reboot Nation, I´d be a zero-ambition guy wasting his daily time on pmo and feeling ashamed for how I were not the man I could be.
I promise to keep working on a better life, to seek challenges, to make the world a better place, to f*cking move forward each day and to never look back at the poison I left behind.
People start to identify me as ambitious, which was a trait that I haven´t heard in some time. Being in reboot gives me time and energy for great projects. I used to waste it to stupid pmo, a worthless numbing activity.
One month of improving my life! Without Reboot Nation, I´d be a zero-ambition guy wasting his daily time on pmo and feeling ashamed for how I were not the man I could be.
I promise to keep working on a better life, to seek challenges, to make the world a better place, to f*cking move forward each day and to never look back at the poison I left behind.
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Day 32
Today has been difficult. I had an O with my wife, so the chaser effect is haunting me. After that, I got a serious trigger at work. It was difficult to clear my head for an hour. I was flirting with the possibility for a light P-substitute but reminded myself that it would lead to worse, so I stopped very quickly. These triggers will probably not happen in my new workplace; it´s something that only happens in my old workplace once a month or so.
Just finished working and going home, starting another safe weekend with my wife.
...damn chaser effect... I don´t want to destroy my streak, because I want those neural pathways of pmo gone forever.
Have a nice weekend everyone!
Today has been difficult. I had an O with my wife, so the chaser effect is haunting me. After that, I got a serious trigger at work. It was difficult to clear my head for an hour. I was flirting with the possibility for a light P-substitute but reminded myself that it would lead to worse, so I stopped very quickly. These triggers will probably not happen in my new workplace; it´s something that only happens in my old workplace once a month or so.
Just finished working and going home, starting another safe weekend with my wife.
...damn chaser effect... I don´t want to destroy my streak, because I want those neural pathways of pmo gone forever.
Have a nice weekend everyone!
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Day 35 of my exploration
Yes, today again I´m having troubles caused by multiple factors. I want to keep rebooting, so I know what I am not allowed to do.
Things that make it difficult right now:
We are at 5 weeks!
Yes, today again I´m having troubles caused by multiple factors. I want to keep rebooting, so I know what I am not allowed to do.
Things that make it difficult right now:
- Another chaser effect after intimacy with my wife
- Emotions troubling me because of work change
- Didn´t meditate enough the last days
- Gaming a bit more often (as I normally rarely game anymore)
We are at 5 weeks!
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Day 36 of my better life
I´m trying to focus more on healthy extra´s in my life, to fill in the voids that were created when stopping pmo.
Yesterdad I did some yoga/stretching techniques. They remove tension from the body.
This morning I took a good, long cold shower. My body is getting used to them and I can feel my body heat up when I start the shower. After some minutes, I start to feel the symptoms of my body getting colder and then I stop. It helps with stress.
I meditate now and am grateful for my progress, how my pied is getting destroyed, how I focus on building a future. As I listened to motivational videos, I noticed that they were right about how many people let life decide for them what will happen. Something happens and then you are forced to make a decision. Maybe it is better for us to meditate more about our future, to think about the possibilities that lie in the future so that you can create a path in the direction you want. And for those who are unsure which way to go, ...also reboot, meditate and think deeply about what will make you a happier, healthier person. Only after months of reboot cycles and slowly healing, I was reminded that before I was exposed to pmo, I was a very active, happy child. Pmo numbed me so much, that I started believing I was a different person. People would see me as ´the guy with no backbone´, ´the guy with no ambition´,... It hurted me but I would run back to pmo for comfort. The hate I now have towards pmo, the lies of fake comfort they promised, ...it fuels me to restore my older self, my inner child that was still social, active, happy.
I can also start to see other men around me who make awkward reactions and I can feel how it is caused by p addiction. I feel pity for them. Even with family and friends, I now see social situations and think "c´mon man, you´re disrespectful to women, you should really stop pmo because I can see how it causes you to do or say these weird, unnatural things".
Enough for today, haha. Have a great reboot, everyone.
I´m trying to focus more on healthy extra´s in my life, to fill in the voids that were created when stopping pmo.
Yesterdad I did some yoga/stretching techniques. They remove tension from the body.
This morning I took a good, long cold shower. My body is getting used to them and I can feel my body heat up when I start the shower. After some minutes, I start to feel the symptoms of my body getting colder and then I stop. It helps with stress.
I meditate now and am grateful for my progress, how my pied is getting destroyed, how I focus on building a future. As I listened to motivational videos, I noticed that they were right about how many people let life decide for them what will happen. Something happens and then you are forced to make a decision. Maybe it is better for us to meditate more about our future, to think about the possibilities that lie in the future so that you can create a path in the direction you want. And for those who are unsure which way to go, ...also reboot, meditate and think deeply about what will make you a happier, healthier person. Only after months of reboot cycles and slowly healing, I was reminded that before I was exposed to pmo, I was a very active, happy child. Pmo numbed me so much, that I started believing I was a different person. People would see me as ´the guy with no backbone´, ´the guy with no ambition´,... It hurted me but I would run back to pmo for comfort. The hate I now have towards pmo, the lies of fake comfort they promised, ...it fuels me to restore my older self, my inner child that was still social, active, happy.
I can also start to see other men around me who make awkward reactions and I can feel how it is caused by p addiction. I feel pity for them. Even with family and friends, I now see social situations and think "c´mon man, you´re disrespectful to women, you should really stop pmo because I can see how it causes you to do or say these weird, unnatural things".
Enough for today, haha. Have a great reboot, everyone.
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I did great on day 37, wednesday, being alone by myself. I was really proud about not wanting porn while being alone. But I was gaming, and I kept me distracted but maybe it gave me too much dopamine. The combination of dopamine fluctuations and chaser effects made me reach for light p subs on thursday, friday and today. I haven´t used any image or video, I used my own imagination but it is giving me too much dopamine. I have to be honest and get back on track, controlling my dopamine and avoid bursts of dopamine to handle my stress that accumulated the last two weeks. I see why it happened. I´m not sure if I need to reset my counter for this, because it feels like a grey zone. I´m grabbing hold of the wheel now and try to steer back to the healthy side as much as I can.
Making a list for myself on possible triggers:
Making a list for myself on possible triggers:
- Extremely hot weather (diminishes my ability to work, so I get bored easier) -> will get better this week
- Gaming itself and any p subs in gaming -> didn´t game in the last three days
- Stress at work -> trying to not care about the stressful stuff at work, which seems to get better
- A day without journaling here
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Took a cold shower, doing some meditation when needed (small monster = urge control)
Also watching information videos about addiction or just for knowledge like business, history, psychology,... (big monster = world view)
Also did sports for two hours yesterday evening.
I uploaded the new edition of easypeasy on a platform so you can read it without having to download it onto your phone (in case you don´t want to explain yourself when people see the easypeasy book on your phone):
Read Easypeasy online
Also watching information videos about addiction or just for knowledge like business, history, psychology,... (big monster = world view)
Also did sports for two hours yesterday evening.
I uploaded the new edition of easypeasy on a platform so you can read it without having to download it onto your phone (in case you don´t want to explain yourself when people see the easypeasy book on your phone):
Read Easypeasy online
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Day 43 (in case of counting from the beginning, ignoring the pseudo slip-up)
I´m going to follow my path again, how I started 40 days ago and see what I did right or wrong.
I´m going to read Easypeasy again and listen to it in the car. Also, going to bed early and have a cold swim. (I still do cold showers nonetheless.)
Edit: just finished reading Easypeasy again, it really helps me
Easypeasy audiobook version 1
Easypeasy audiobook version 2
I´m going to follow my path again, how I started 40 days ago and see what I did right or wrong.
I´m going to read Easypeasy again and listen to it in the car. Also, going to bed early and have a cold swim. (I still do cold showers nonetheless.)
Edit: just finished reading Easypeasy again, it really helps me
Easypeasy audiobook version 1
Easypeasy audiobook version 2
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Day 44 of a journey into happiness
I´m back on track. Time to look forward; got my "no more poison" shoes on and a backpack with new courage. I´m thinking about creating a collection of resources that might help others, to offer some guidance during the days/weeks/months of a reboot. These programs probably already exist and I understand everyone´s path is different, but I keep feeling this motivation to create it, I can´t help it. I will never say it works for everyone or it´s the best guide, but I just want to help. Any advice on my (future) resources is welcome.
Today, I found the eagle´s guide again. I read it in the past and was interesting. It follows the easypeasy method but it is shorter and has a different vibe while reading it. I think both ´books´ can be used together, to reread the knowledge.
Flying Eagle Method
Flying Eagle´s youtube
I´m back on track. Time to look forward; got my "no more poison" shoes on and a backpack with new courage. I´m thinking about creating a collection of resources that might help others, to offer some guidance during the days/weeks/months of a reboot. These programs probably already exist and I understand everyone´s path is different, but I keep feeling this motivation to create it, I can´t help it. I will never say it works for everyone or it´s the best guide, but I just want to help. Any advice on my (future) resources is welcome.
Today, I found the eagle´s guide again. I read it in the past and was interesting. It follows the easypeasy method but it is shorter and has a different vibe while reading it. I think both ´books´ can be used together, to reread the knowledge.
Flying Eagle Method
Flying Eagle´s youtube
strongfuture89
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Day 45 of no more poison
Everyone who has been here some months or more will probably know those moments that you might second-guess. When stress creeps up on you or an idea of ´was it really that bad´ is whispered in your head, you feel that you need willpower to stay away from something that is actually poison. It´s a weird thing, but it happens. And when you start to notice those first signals - you sometimes even see them happening in someone´s journal - it´s time to put all your focus on your reboot. It´s a moment to explain your mind that no single poison in the world will be able to help you with your problems.
When this situation happens, tell it to your close ones or the people here on the forum. Find support. And remember that mental clarity is always your best friend and will solve your problems much more than poison.
(I write the word ´porn´ and ´poison´ interchangeably because I don´t know the difference between the two.)
Everyone who has been here some months or more will probably know those moments that you might second-guess. When stress creeps up on you or an idea of ´was it really that bad´ is whispered in your head, you feel that you need willpower to stay away from something that is actually poison. It´s a weird thing, but it happens. And when you start to notice those first signals - you sometimes even see them happening in someone´s journal - it´s time to put all your focus on your reboot. It´s a moment to explain your mind that no single poison in the world will be able to help you with your problems.
When this situation happens, tell it to your close ones or the people here on the forum. Find support. And remember that mental clarity is always your best friend and will solve your problems much more than poison.
(I write the word ´porn´ and ´poison´ interchangeably because I don´t know the difference between the two.)