A good time for a massive change. ED, Performance anxiety, porn, fetishes etc.

noises1990

Active Member
Come on man.... Don't allow yourself to get thrown in the pit like that... Always remember man... Your happiness depends only on you... When your happiness depends on other persons, you become fragile... I know that GF and relationship problems are nasty and a real downer when times are rough, but appreciate yourself and evaluate yourself for what you truly are man!
Try talking to her more and explaining what is going on in your life right now... I guess it's normal to feel anxious in situations like this because still, it's your dearest person... But man, how it makes you feel also matters.
Be strong bro! I'm sure it will be fine! There's no other way!
 
What noises1990 said.. You are in charge of your own emotions, not anybody else. Girls are like that, especially on their period :D.. So being as she is being negative right now, she will be positive again. Girls are unstable like that. Just let her know how much you love her and things like that. P.S. drink plenty of water..
 

Shaft

Member
Thanks for the comments guys.

Well our relationship is ok again. She reacted a bit over the top, because as I've said has been traumatized in the past and don't really trust anyone really apart from me. She was just afraid of me not 100% comitting to the relationship, which kinda was the case but not anymore. And them facebook females was part of them, deleted them all.

Even though during the last couple days my libido was pretty much non existant because I was still very upset and confused because of the conflict me and my GF had, I could easily get a stong errection just by a few touches. Interesting. Almost no horniness, but erection is strong, when physical touch gets down there.

Don't really have much boners during the day, because I totally removed any possible stimulation, but experience very strong morning woods. This morning it lasted for about 30 minutes while I was lying in bed. Yesterday all of a sudden I started feel that 'blue ballls' pain which by the end of the evening got really bad. Today I'm fine though. Porn induced fantasies have almost gone away, yet my mind thinks from time to time it's ok just to watch some pics on google, which is BULLSHIT. I'm healing, but need to continue absitence from anything artificial.

Overall, feeling very spiritual and intact. I fell more confident among other people. I can get it up any time, yet libido is quite week, perhaps because it's still asociated with the last failure that I had.

Couple months ago I was obssesed with watching porn pics while doing my workouts, and surfing sex portals where you're supposed to go and seek sexual partners. I did that for curiosity, but got addictted to it very soon. And that for me didn't count as porn. I was so stupid. I got into a spiral of constant lust wherever I go and seeing other females as sluts.

It all was pathetic, but hopefully will fade away with time.
 

Shaft

Member
No morning wood today, was a crazy night with me waking up like 2 times because of nightmares. Yet I get a boner shortly before falling a sleep. And I get strong erection just by few touches. At the same time, there are hours during the day when I fell that the dick is dead.

I guess I'm flatlining a little.
 

Shaft

Member
Had a workout today, straight after that went for a 15 min joggin. Both activities sucked in terms of intensity, but whatever, at least I tried. Strange. Today in the morning I had such stong boner I thought I was about to MO, but I didn't. Currently, as I'm writing this, I'm in a total flatline. Wouldn't be able to get an erection no matter what. Maybe my organism is getting used to not ejaculating, maybe it's not porn related.

I'm just wondering how long my recovery will take. I've never ever watched any porn clip or masturbated to it for more than 5-8 minutes (at most). And I would do that perhaps 5-10 times a year, not more. Just got into that adiction problem rather recently, but I'm glad I was clever enough to take drastic changes.

Hopefully we'll all beat that flatline.

Good luck to all of you.
 

noises1990

Active Member
Come on bro... don't give in! Let your body rest and your brain to rewire. Don't fear about the recovery time.... You'll get there when you'll get there! Chin up and stay strong man!
 

Shaft

Member
Thanks. yeah, hopefully so. Today I'm feeling totally drained though. 0 energy. I believe I entered a flatline. I still can get an erection without any porn related fantasies, but it comes and goes within few mins away. I'm waiting for my 'horny mode' to come back.

Well at least porn fantasies have completely left my mind in terms of visuals or flashbacks.  And I really don't have any withdrawals at all. It's just that my sexual energy is close to 0.
 

Shaft

Member
1 month without PMO, videos, photos related to sex/porn. Way easier than I thought. Erection is stronger than has ever been, but still no mornig wood or high libido. Libido is coming back but it's rather moderate.
 

Taka

Member
Oh boy, your first post in the journal triggered my imagination. I have just started to imagining some actresses. I guess I should stop checking the posts of others for a while  :eek:
 

Taka

Member
Damn, I am just getting these random flashes form porn scenes. But hey I think it is just my brain sorting out the trash a nd then throwing it away. I am quick at killing the fantasies.

Yeah real flesh is always good but I am actually trying to go hardcore mode right now since the real flesh caused a relapse last time.
 

Shaft

Member
Hardcore mode is always necessery when drastic changes are needed. Good luck.

Noticed a semen leakege twice today at different times while urinating. I guess that's a sign that the body is trying to get rid of the excess amount of fluid. I have never thought that's possible, but it is. No wet dreams, no nothing.

No morning wood for the past 10 days or so. Experienced terrible pains in my lower back and testicles area which lasted from 3-5 h twice this week. 

Tried to test myself (without any artificial stuff) wether or not I'm able to get it up and maintain it. I can. It's easy in the morning, and not so easy at all around noon or later. Dick feels kinda numb. But again, I tend to think it's more of an anxiety issue. Just was nervous today when I realised my penis is kinda numb, after a while spend about 30 mins. meditating and guess what. I got a rock hard boner just by deep breathing and thinking about my GF (romantic thoughts though they were).
I have had a rock hard boner while spending time with my GF on and off for about 5 h today.
I guess being horny somehow is associated in my brain with the failure of a limp dick that I had previous times with my GF, so I'm just simply deeply worried and not assured about my potency. When I'm relaxed, it works fine, actually, better then ever. When not- it's dead.
 

noises1990

Active Member
Oh man I can't wait to get to the same level that you're at! Although I'm sorry to hear about your back pains I'm quite glad about your boners! Can't wait to get a bonR just by having romantic thoughts about my girlfriend!!
Through tough times try understanding that "it's always darkest before the dawn"! Your progress is amazing! Stay strong!
 

Shaft

Member
Just MO'ed this morning, I thought I could prevent myself from the actual orgasm, but it was too late. Well, at least I did it in a healthy fashion and healthy, real life situation thoughts about my GF, I guess I shouldn't beat myself for that. Had absolutely zero thoughts about any porn, which I'm quite suprised. I mainly abstain from orgasm just to increase my libido, which kinda helped a bit.

Personally, I don't consider my level as something amazing or anything at all. But thanks..

Yeah. There's no other way. Thanks man.
 

Shaft

Member
I was going to write the other day about how I think I'm practically an impotent, well at least have been for a long time now. But realised that porn was just a small portion of the damage that has been done to me since it has never been huge part of my life. Of course, it introduced me to one specific fetish, but is is slowly going away day by day.
Much bigger problem for me is an anxiety, performance anxiety, in particular. Yesterday invited my GF to the flat that I rent to spend a night in, have some laughs, watch a movie, etc. I knew I still had severe issues with my erection, so wasn't thinking about the actual intercourse at all. By the time that we met and hugged, I felt strong sensations going on downstairs, which appeared on and off during the time we spend together. We tried to get intimate, and my problem came back. Up until that moment I felt like 'I'm definately better than I thought, I'm healed, I can get aroused just by smelling her hair, and hugging her. Yet as the erection lost its stiffnes, i got into a circle of thinkin 'Oh my god, I can't get it up, I will fail'. After a couple of mins I got into severy anxiety, in which, despite the fact that my breathing remained deep and steady, my libido went down to zero again. We both decided to take a shower and that was very pleasant. Up until the very morning I kept having erection on and off, and eventually decided not to put a condom at all, just to see how it works, because erection was out of control. I don't trust my erection. I don't fell horny. Have very low libido, bad apetite, constant lack of energy, no agression at all, my workouts suck, to put it simply. Plus, pure anxiety, nothing else. Porn isn't the main problem at all my case, whereas anxiety is. And I have very little positive sexual agression towards my woman.

From now on focusing on meditation exercises and even started using some medicine- Bromazepam. Just curious to see how it works. Pehaps it might help a bit if used properly.

My problem is not due to fatigue, alchohol, poor nutrition or even porn.

Regardless of what I said, I'm not going to watch a single minute of a porn clip even if I remain with this performance anxiety induced ED. It seems everything's fine when I'm relaxed, but when the right time comes to put a condom on, I'm not even trying to put in on, because I get bombarded by thoughts- wait a bit, you might get limp. And of course I got limp multiple times.

I really don't know how to fight it. I need to fell my libido once again. But 2 weeks abstaining from MO only gave me blue balls and severe back pain
 

noises1990

Active Member
Auch.... "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" just a saying that might apply in your case my friend. Yes, you've got to address those anxiety issues but I don't know what to say about medication, I am somehow reluctant to that. Plus, some anti-depressants and naturist anti-stress pills as a side effect have downing libido and not so much sensation on the ding-dong.

Instead of the pills, for the anxiety I would strongly suggest a psycho-therapyst. You might have some un-addressed  issues from your childhood that funk with you at times, I sure got my mother issues.

Anyways, keep confidence somehow up man, motivation is a b*tch and you gotta hold on to it!! Stay strong!
 

Taka

Member
Yes it is very hard to determine whether it is performance anxiety or porn. I think I had some PA too but then again after I gave up porn I was a bit anxious but my junk worked well during the act and that gave me the necessary confidence. But the porn remained an issue for my DE. I knew it is porn cause I could not imagine masturbation without porn and my relapse was all about porn. I?ll ask you a question you need to answer to yourself, do you or did you used fantasies a lot during masturbation? I mean from what I have read they might have similar consequences as porn even if they are about your girlfriend. Does/did your fantasies during MO contain the thoughts of that specific fetish you were talking about? It is always not about porn but about how even little use of porn could develop unrealistic expectations. The performance anxiety might revolve around this - you are thinking to yourself why it does not feel as good as I fantasized. Maybe you are not thinking it but you just dont feel it. Then you start to ask yourself am I doing allright, how my dick is going to perform when it failed so many times before, because you cannot dive in the moment . You might need more time to heal. Anyway if it is purely PA then it is all about the first time you break through it. Just try to get intimate if you feel like it and take it slow, focus on the sensation and pleasure, not on the distracting thoughts about your performance. Do not try to find excuses in front of your girl and keep off masturbation, let the libido and desire build up.

EDIT: plus I have noticed you wrote that you did MO the morning before you got intimate with your girlfriend the same day? I mean what did you expect. That is not a very good idea. Just sayin.
 

Shaft

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As a matter of fact, it's been so long since I masturbated to some sort of fantasy, it's hard to say, but back in the day I would imagine a few girls that I know. That's about it. Sometimes, yeah, I would include that fetish in my fantasy. No porn stars or crazy things. I have to add that I have only been with a real woman like 2 times. Other times it didn't lead to the actual intercourse. I've met like 21 women via Internet during the last 2 years, and I  rejected them all because I wasn't looking for short-term, shallow relationship. 

Despite what I said, all the fantasies that I had back then were simply blurry, not vivid or anything like that. It was harder and harder to imagine things because I would very rarely (maybe once a month or two) watch porn only  for 5 mins or so. Needless to say, that was bad enough, but again, I wasn't a heavy user watching gangbangs, shemales, rape scenes etc. This all was after my first sexual experiences, so I already knew what to expect from a real thing.
I've never been a heavy user, as I said.  I usually would MO once a day or two, sometimes without even fantasizing about anything at all. Just a mechanical movement to release the load (which ought to be saved, btw.)

Whatever. All that was pathetic as hell. I wish I was more clever back then. It's really sad. Time lost is never reagained though.

Well, for the past two months I haven't fantasized at all, so I'm not into developing any unrealistic expectations, plus I'm ok with how the females are in reality anyway. I was ok 3 years ago as well.

I think it's mainly due to PA and my lack of experience, (previous 2 experiences were not the greatests either) plus, I REALLY care about the person I'm currently with. I'd like to marry her one day. I said,  I can have and maintain normal erection while naked during foreplay, and the way she touches  me is great. But then all of a sudden deep down I felt extreme nervousness, had a strong shiver all around my legs, and that was the end.

Well, that was a total failure. I didn't O'ed on purpose.  After 14 days of no MO, I wanted to test myself wether or not I can maintain an erection in a regular missionary pose (testing- bad idea). Imagined my GF.  It was totally porn unrelated, as a matter of fact, I don't think I've seen  a single scene o fa  porn video  containing 'boring' missionary pose). And the erection was there, unfortunately, I went slightly too far, and wasn't able to stop ejaculation. Major failure, as I said. Perhaps, that might lowered my libido for that day, but I'm a healthy young man in my early twenties, I do cardio and lift weights 3 times a weak, eat rather healthy, I never get drunk etiher, don't smoke. Been living so for the past 7 years. I think after 14 days of abstinence, a normal young male ought to show better results. Ha, forgot to mention- during my first sexual encounter I went limp and wasn't able to get it up till the next morning. And back in those days porn was pretty much non existant in my life.

From now on, definately keeping away from testing, MO, or any edging. As regards to porn, I'm proud to say that I haven't had any flashbacks this week so far, my brain is unable to imagine any vivid material at all. No desire to watch anything stimulating either. I'm pretty sure I'll never watch it again.

Not to mention, I've never ever had hard time getting it up when being alone without any visual stimulation or unrealistic fantasies, was experiencing random boners, etc. I started to experience ED after I lost a good portion of my confidence and suffered from stress because of my failure previuos times.

Thanks for the suggestions man
 

Taka

Member
Thx for sharing a bit more of your background. It helps to complete the picture of your issues. I was not aware your history with porn was after you started having sexual relationships (srry if you did mention it in some of your previous post I have not noticed). Well try to stay calm, use meditation to learn how to turn off your mind so the anxiety can go away. I know that it is hard, I have been there too. Actually what I did to beat the anxiety was laying off the masturbation for about a week before the sex and try to take advantage of my morning wood. Well maybe try some alcohol a little bit should not affect your performance and will ease your mind - if you dont drink at all one beer might be just the right dose to help you relax. The best performance I had when my anxiety was not entirely gone was actually at night when my girl touched me and woke me up from my sleep in the middle of the night and I thought this must be a dream. If your problems will not go away try to talk to your girl. If she will try to find a solution for your problem you will know she really cares about you. I dont know you might try some live masturbation session where you will not actually touch each other and then after few sessions slowly try to make love.
 

Shaft

Member
To noises1990:

Well, I read that this particular medicine might have side effects- either lower or rise the libido. So far, haven't noticed any of it. Having on mind that my problems are only caused by anxiety, I'm not considering going to the therapyst, though was thinking about it about a month ago. I'll se how it goes.

Thanks for suggestions though, always appreciated.

To Taka:

Well, I'm not saying that porn hasn't done any damage to me. Of course it had an impact, but just a small portion of it. As a teenager, I had already seen some porn before I got into sexual relationship, but as I said before, porn was pretty much non-existant in my life till the age of 18-19. At the time I still lived with my parents who were always at home, not to mention had many social problems to deal with so porn or even real women really wasn't huge interest at the time.

All I need to do is:

1. Abstain from any sexual triggers and MO for 1 or 2 weeks before possible sexual encounter. No testing, no edging, no nothing. This would boost up my sexual energy and add aggression that is needed to completely 'dive into' the moment. This is the most important point.
2. While getting intimate, put all my focus on my GF,  the way she looks, smells, feels etc. Not to focus on myself, and my  thoughts, worries, insecurities about the problem that I had.
3. Use a bit of an alchohol while being with her. In moderation, without a doubt, of course.
4. Don't wait for 'the right moment' to come, but quickly take the initiative and make the final move. Even if I fail, then I fail, but it doesn't mean that what happened yesterday has to happen everyday.

The main reason preventing me from being firm is just right before the moment I need make the final move. Because I start to doubt myself and think that I would go limp. What a stupid rationalizing that is.

By the way, I got my libido back. It's a good thing, yet I'm slightly worried about relapsing. Gotta stay strong.

 
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