Very likely to have a weird combination of venous leakage with pied. (25)

Jeks

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Thanks quit :)

Last night was eventfull. Had three sex dreams. In one i had an orgasm. The other two i felt like the arousal was not strong enough. It wasnt quite porn fantasy, but it was kind of compulsive and also kind of desperate and had porn elements. But it was definetely not like watching porn, i was acting.
No ejaculation, no full erection, maybe like 70 percent.
Waking up i was exhausted, lots of fantasy, but overall pretty okay.
Seemes like my brain has a lot of work to do.
 

Jeks

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Had a very vivid porn dream last night. Whats interesting is, that even though in my dream i tried to keep my arousal high by clicking from screen to screen, it was not really enjoyable. I did not orgasm, which is a first, when i dream about porn or relapsing. It felt like my disgust against porn was finally bigger, than my desire to watch it and getting aroused by it.
Did not have a full erection.

Good day yall.
 

Jeks

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My strategy for taking action is working for me.
Even though i didnt feel like it, i told myself that it cant go on like this and that i have to change things, the same way i told myself in order to stop watching porn.
I studied now for 2 hours, my mind is pretty calm and free and not full of thoughts. I feel like the less complicated i try to make it for myself, the easier my mind can buy into it. My mind doesnt block me then from my ability to get going, when i try to hold it simple.
 

Jeks

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I think i might have entered a flatline. My mind is not really interested in sex, which on one side is a quite freeing feeling and the lack of urges feels nice, on the other side it feels a little bit funky. No morning wood what so ever. Caught myself thinking, that i should fantasize a little or even masturbate, cause it feels so empty and a little bit worrying. Of course i wont do it, because thats what i wanted all along. It just feels like the pendulum swinged a little bit in the opposite direction. When i think about sex, which i still try to avoid, i feel a little bit of disinterest and reluctance. I ve got no problem to think abou something else.
Besides that my days really getting more and more productive, sucessfull and enjoyable. I dont worry as much and have a lot of mind capacity left for things i want or have to do.
All in all i feel pretty alright the last days, which is more than i could have hoped for like two months ago.

You all stay strong. You know it cant go on like this. You ve gotta change something. There is no way around it. We will all make it out of this.
 
Good that you are healing man. Your story broke my heart snd tge results you're having show you that you made the right choice living. This will be over and it will be only a sad story for you. Keep up the good work.
 

Jeks

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Thanks lucas.

Woke up at night, had a very strong nocturnal erection. Lasted like 2 minutes or something. Id say like 90-95 percent. My mind is very calm, no porn flashbacks. Just have difficulties to go back to sleep. Its crazy, my whole thinking and experiencing of porn and porn fantasy changed the last days. Its not something that overwhelmingly arouses me and ive got difficulties controlling the near obesessive fantasies, its just irritating.
 

Jeks

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Man rough night... Had difficulties sleeping after waking up. Had a few vivid dreams, but no sexual content. In the morning i had again a pretty good erection (90-95%) and it lasted a minute. Some fantasies came up, but they where very weak and easy to ignore.
I am positive about the day. Wanna try to work out again. Also i have to think about, how i can start to socialize more. If i can not stay with my old friends, because i feel like they dont do me any good, than i have to meet new people. And i still have friends i like. These relationsship i have to nuture. And i have to find activities, which i can do in my freetime to get energized again.
It cant go on like this and i have to try out new things.

Good day you all.
 
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wecandoit

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I don't know how long is your streak but keep going of course. I have problems sleeping too, sometimes. I wake up after sleeping only a few hours and I feel too energized to fall asleep again. But I am not tired either.
 

Jeks

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Thanks for your reply wecandoit.

My back has a bad day, so i lay down a little and the last days, i thought a lot about rebooting and my journey so far, so that i wanted to make a "short" summary about my thoughts on rebooting, all the advice that i can give people and what has helped me so far.

I am now nearly seven months porn free. Ive got pied and actually start getting erections. My cravings are as good as gone. My perception and feelings about sex and women has changed. My depressions are on its way healing. I am more able to take actions in all areas of my life.

My rules are
Dont touch, dont fantasize, dont peek, watch out for triggers.
Take it as serious, as if you would with any other drug addiction, because at the bottomline there really is no difference. The urges we are experiencing are not our real libido or sex drive, but cravings, like with any other addiction.

How i deal with cravings
Grab a pillow and hug it, as if your life depends on it, try napping, listen or watch to gabe deem, noah church and gary wilson and read ybop.com. This gets your mind elsewhere and reminds you constantly, why you are doing this. Watching a series can be beneficial, if you definetely know, that it wont have triggers ( that might mean rewatching a lot, but still it gets your mind off of it). Be careful on trying to be hyper productive. Pressure and frustration often worked as a trigger for me.
You can really start killing it in life, when your cravings stopped and you start becoming stable.

How i dealt with fantasizing:
Look at how to deal with cravings, but also i found this strategy called the "rabbit hole technique". Ive found it on the "the brain rebalanced radio show" on youtube.

When it comes to fantasizing addicts are like dogs and fantasizing about porn and sex is like a rabbit hole. Once you start to scoop around in it, you will loose yourself in it, until you might not come out of it and relapse. The deeper you go, the harder it will be to find a way out. So as soon as you see the rabbit hole you have to look away and avoid the temptation to go in there as soon as possible by looking at somewhere else.
So in other words, when you are becoming aware that you are fantasizing, once you allow yourself to go into it, you start loosing yourself in the rabbit hole. So as soon as you become aware of yourself fantasizing, youve got to look away. Look around at your surroundings. When you see something, a chair for example, start thinking about a chair. Start thinking about wood, start thinking about trees. Start thinking about what else you can do with trees, until you passed the rabbit hole. When you allow yourself to go deeper into it and you pass a certain point, you wont be able to find out again.

Or, when you able to, try to think about something else ( to imagine how your life will be, when you are done with this shit for example ) or try to do something, that gets your mind elsewhere. Meeting with friends, who know about your condition and dont judge you for your mood you have at the moment can be really helpful. When you are with someone, there is much less mind space left for fantasizing.

Try to become aware on why you are relapsing. What increases your cravings? what triggers you?
Relapses are common, work on getting the behavioural and psychological strategies and make up to get back on track each time.

Try to think about, what you wanna do with your life, what goals you have. If you dont got any, its time to get some. Recovering from addiction, does not just mean stopping the unwanted behaviour, but changing your life and the circumstances, that got you into this addiction.
Also a good starting point is to realize, that your life cant go on like this. You need to realize and accept that. This really had been a turning point in my mindset. The reasons differ from person to person, but people, who got into addiction definetely got some points, they ve got to change in their lifes. But as said, main focus or even your only real focus should go into overcoming this addiction. But start thinking about this stuff and start to work on it, when you feel like the decreased cravings allow you to push yourself a little. Visualize it or think about it, when you are feeling down or hopeless. Imagine how your life would be, when youve reached your goals. You ve got to learn how to motivate yourself to stay on the path.
Also you have to find really good reasons for yourself, why you wanna drop porn and remind yourself of that everytime things get tough and cravings are strong. Guys with PIED i feel like don't have such a difficult time with that. But there are still so many other reasons and they have got to be psychologically as strong as your cravings and withdrawals to overcome those.

Masturbation really is a difficult and maybe one the most controvers topics. Everyone has to figure out for oneself how one responds.  MO can lead to PMO, because of the chaser effect. Not MOing can lead to PMOing, because the cravings become too strong.
I handled it by using MO as a last solution or my parachute, when i knew i was about to open my laptop. For me that happened like once a month, at the beginning maybe a little more often. But i also had to start cutting out MO to eventually getting results. This became easier after a few months into my reboot, but it was still difficult, maybe as difficult as to stop watching porn. I also belief, and gary wilson also talkes about this in one of his interviews, that a lot guys, myself included, have developed a addiction to masturbation due to their porn addiction. The both are so heavily linked together, that some guys really need to stop both, at least for a long time, maybe forever. This often occurs with guys, which developed pied i feel like.
This is just what has worked for me so far. I highly recommend quitting masturbation to any porn addict.

I hope, i can help someone with this.

This is all i got. My back pain got better. My mind is more free now. I noticed that, when thinking about sex or women, which i try to avoid, i actually dont feel too much aroused, but i feel a little bit anxious and mich more caring.

Kick this addiction in the balls.
 

Jeks

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Day went not as planned, but it was still okay. Bumped into some difficulties in my studies, but i think i will be able to manage them. Because of frustration and maybe because i dindnt sleep well at night, i had a pretty long nap. I did not work out, but played a little guitar and was studying chess in my freetime.
Ive got invited to a party on friday and still fight with myself, if i should go or not. But met with two friends along the day and just tried to be socially active, but it still takes a lot of effort.
I will try to engage in at least one social activity once a day, which will require a lot of willpower on my part. If my studies stay sucesfull and i start to work out, i think i will have build up a few good habits as a nice foundation for a happy and porn free life.
 

Jeks

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My days starting to get better. I have had MW ( like 80-90 %). I was able to face the difficulties in my studying and found a solution to them. I did go to my therapy session.
I did clean up my room, met a friend and wrote mesaages to some others. I did not work out, but tried some exercises against back pain as a start. I realized, that i really enjoy writing here, so this will be one of my new freetime activities. I think i just have to keep my eye on the ball and to improve my efforts a little bit more every single day. I really feel like im finally on a real good path to get my life handled.

Today my therapist handed me a list of enjoyable activities. She asked me to rank them from 1-3 for how i much i enjoy them. Apart from this giving me some ideas what i could enjoy doing at the moment, i think this could have also helped me dealing with cravings, depression and loneliness by getting some ideas how to get my mind off of it. I also know, that on my worst days, i would have ranked them all as a 1. But maybe this can be helpfull for some of you. Its not the same list as the original, but it got the same idea.

https://www.livingwell.org.au/well-being/mental-health/pleasant-things-to-do/
 

Jeks

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I had a pretty good night overall. Lots of dreams, but nothing sexual. Not much MW, but it still feels much better. I am much more calm and positive, but i also feel a littel tired and sluggish overall. I'll try now to get going. In order to challenge myself a bit more, i wanna try to set a couple or at least one exercise for myself throughout the day. Things like trying something new or to talk to someone, phone someone, working out... things like that. The important part for me is trying to take it as an exercise. It does not have to go perfect, the emphasis lies on practicing and at least trying new things and watching what it leads to.
Noticed that my flaccid size became bigger.
 

Jeks

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Holy cow... Much more mw, much more semis and even a spontanios erection in the morning wtf... Guys, two months ago i couldnt even remember having an erection since i was 15 or something.
Had a pretty bad dream about my ex but fuck it. All this pain and torture... Its unbelievable. Much more work has to be done to catch up to all that wasted years caused by porn. But im ready and hell im gonna make it worth. And i am sure im gonna appreciate it more than so many others, because i will know what its like to hit rock bottom. I had at least 2 month of of heavy suicidal thoughts and i mean really heavy. For all of you struggling out there, it is time to finally drop it. It will be the most rewarding thing, you have ever done in your life, more than anything. Also for the guys without pied, it is only a matter of time, that it will fuck your life. It fucks ypur life already, most possibly without you even noticing in what an extent. Whatever you have to do to get out of it, do it. Cutting out sex, cutting off your internet connection, having times, where you suffer that much, that every second becomes an hour, its absolutely worth it. Anything you have to do to get over this shit.
New day guys, lets get it going.
 
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wecandoit

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Jeks said:
All this pain and torture... Its unbelievable. Much more work has to be done to catch up to all that wasted years caused by porn. But im ready and hell im gonna make it worth. And i am sure im gonna appreciate it more than so many others, because i will know what its like to hit rock bottom. I had at least 2 month of of heavy suicidal thoughts and i mean really heavy. For all of you struggling out there, it is time to finally drop it. It will be the most rewarding thing, you have ever done in your life, more than anything. Also for the guys without pied, it is only a matter of time, that it will fuck your life. It fucks ypur life already, most possibly without you even noticing in what an extent. Whatever you have to do to get out of it, do it. Cutting out sex, cutting off your internet connection, having times, where you suffer that much, that every second becomes an hour, its absolutely worth it. Anything you have to do to get over this shit.
New day guys, lets get it going.

I feel you, man, and I agree with everything. Porn fucks up your brain. There is more than PIED. Maybe PIED is the first thing some guys notice and the most depressing thing when they have girlfriends/wives and they can't have an erection. This is definitely depressing as fuck. But there is more to it. Porn causes exhaustion, anxiety, low motivation, low eye contact etc. Some guys just want to lie in the bed and do nothing all day cause that's how they feel because of all the porn (including me). It is crucial to quit porn. I believe you will never be 100% with porn in your life. But beware of how the brain works. The brains chooses short term pleasure over long term well-being and life. You have to be careful. When there are no urges it's easy to say: "I will choose life over porn. It's time to quit." But when the urges hit hard, you will find yourself reconsidering your quitting thoughts, thinking about that pleasure and sedation that porn gives you. It's easier to choose pleasure, it's easier to choose cope, it's harder to choose a life without it. That's why the first thing you need to do is be really determined about it. Peace. Good luck.
 

Jeks

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Thanks wecandoit,
you are exactly right, i cant let my guard down.

Man i missed the forum. I feel like i am so much more clear in my mind, when i write stuff here. Last days went pretty well. A noticeable side effect has been a bigger flaccid size the last days. It became easier to deal with fantasy. Cravings are low or non existent. I was able to work out again. Studies went pretty well. I visited a girl from university the other day. It was one of my exercises i try setting for myself. It was nice and i was able to enjoy the company. Not sure how much she likes me, but it was fun, so i think we will see again. Still motivation not where i would like to have it, but at least no severe depressions. I think with each day i try to challenge myself more i will get to a place, where i can enjoy life again.
Really gotta figure out a good and healthy way to spend my time after doing my daywork. I will try to be more aware, focused and to practice more in that area of my life. Especially spending time on the internet seems to be a a thing ive gotta keep an eye on. I spend too much time on the internet and at the same time it feels really unfulfilling. It cant stay like this.
 

Jeks

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It has been a really solid day. Cravings and fantasies still low.
Had a successful day of studying. After that instead of watching youtube and napping, i hung out with a friend, was working out, made an appointment and checked my mails. Still have some ideas what i could do in the evening, besides writing here.
At the same time i came to the conclusion, that i really have to figure out what to do with my social life, how to approach my old friends and what i ve gotta do to find some new ones. Also i have to still work some things out for how to deal with my ex and how to deal with negative thoughts and emotions relating her. But i still feel like life is slowly going in the right direction.
 
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wecandoit

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Jeks said:
It has been a really solid day. Cravings and fantasies still low.
Had a successful day of studying. After that instead of watching youtube and napping, i hung out with a friend, was working out, made an appointment and checked my mails. Still have some ideas what i could do in the evening, besides writing here.
At the same time i came to the conclusion, that i really have to figure out what to do with my social life, how to approach my old friends and what i ve gotta do to find some new ones. Also i have to still work some things out for how to deal with my ex and how to deal with negative thoughts and emotions relating her. But i still feel like life is slowly going in the right direction.

Great things, man.
 

Jeks

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New day, got my therapy session today. Want to try staying on the little internet train today. Want to challenge myself to socialize in the afternoon or evening. Maybe i meet with the girl from university. I will work on maintaining the good habits i have going.
 

Jeks

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Funky day. Didnt do much besides helping a friend out and meeting some other friends. Not a productive day study and habits wise, but still okay. Mood is still good. Felt a little like im catching a cold, but after some sleep, its much better.
 

Jeks

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=40m99E6VCyU

Your brain rebalanced radion show, that really helped me getting through some big cravings. Not just the knowledge but also listening to it, while having them.

Basically i wanna try the same stuff as yesterday, until i have it down.
Had some sex dreams in the night. They become closer to my original tastes in my youth. I even dream about women i got to know in high school. At the same time i feel like my brain still didnt catch up to the changes and doest feel enough arousal. So maybe still a little bit of a flatline...

 
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