HE'S BACK! I've finally stopped. Now to hold on. My story to recovery

ShadeTrenicin

Well-Known Member
Well, to summarize my day:





F*CK!




I relapsed.. late afternoon after the wife went downstairs.. Nothing to serious, and for as short while, but PMO'd nonetheless..
It left me with a feeling of remorse, emptiness, and no idea why I did it again.. Just can't. I remembered thinking, why the hell am I doing this.

But that little voice in my head..


Well, I've told the wife, she was understanding and we had a good talk..
The main trigger was, as expected, the financial setback, which triggered  my mood of being unmotivated and unconcentrated. That gave rise to a fuck it all mood and before i know it it already went to far.

The key trigger here was mental fatigue. And that is what im taking to tomorrow. I'll just contemplate tonight..

Tomorrow is day 0 and just pick up where I left off
 

KittyHawk

Active Member
ShadeTrenicin, don?t give up! You definitely didn?t loose all your progress.

I can relate. Stress, financial and other, belongs to my frequent triggers. And once I am in the mood, it is like being on an autopilot. I am opening that browser window that I shouldn?t and I keep telling myself that I shouldn?t, but my body keeps going... that?s the addiction. It is not you. Let?s defeat it together!
 

Andrew1973

Active Member
Hey Shade - just saw this. I?ll write more tomorrow but just wanted to echo KittyHawk?s comments, and let you know that we?re all here with you. (So true what you say about autopilot kittyhawk!)
Well done on your response to the slip, and be kind to yourself. This isn?t just back to day 0, but back to day 0 WITH the added benefit of new learning and therefore more insight and strength for the future. Take care and sleep well my friend. Tomorrow is a new day.
 

ShadeTrenicin

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Hey Kittyhawk and UKGuy,

Thansk for the loving words! It really softens the blow.

Today is day 0. I'm still waking up a bit but i feel anew. I have a bunch of motivation to go for it again!
 

Andrew1973

Active Member
I have just got back from my morning run and was thinking about you Shade and wondering how you were today. It's really pleasing to read that you are resolute and motivated! Have a good day.
 
You got this, Shade.  Remember that sometimes you have to fail in order to succeed.  You've immediately identified what your triggers were in this case, so this has already been a moment that will benefit your long term success.  Give some thought to how you're going to deal with this trigger when it occurs in the future, and let us know what you come up with when you're ready.  We're all rooting for you here!
 

CB

Active Member
Your relapse is just a stepping stone, it is for all of us. Relapsing is part of it, so you can build even a stronger foundation against porn.

I?m sure you are going to get your head up and just keep on going. Be aware as you say about triggers, and try to distract yourself, the cravings are going to be there, just let it fade.

Just trying to give some encouraging thoughts your way.

Stay safe and stay free from porn.
 

ShadeTrenicin

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Thanks Traveler UKguy and CB.

This is exactly why i love this community! Your responses mean a lot to me guys, it really really helps!

Today was (is) day 2! Im going strong, did a bit of work but was WAY to distracted. So I worked on my roof terrace a bit as well and it is coming along very nicely. I'm very content with the progress!

No urges today, but that was somewhat to be expected, since the relapse and confession to my wife had a big impact on me. That always pushes the urge back for a couple of days!

All in all i've read a lot on this forum which helps a lot as well.

Thank you guys for just being there. It really helps!

 

ShadeTrenicin

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It is day 4 already! I woke up with a ton of energy and horny as hell! That means physical urges. Those are not the worst (yet) so i've repurposed the urges into cleaning the house! So far so good, i feel good energetic and motivated.

I do have a lot of fantasy flashes already. Sometimes i tend to go along with them. But most of the time i'll alow them for being there and thinking that they are temporary.

On another, more positive, note. After a long period of no sexy time, the wife and I feel more connected again and i feel something is brewing under the surface, the magic is slowly coming back.  This means that the reboot has had a great effect on me as a person since i am now more open and connected to my wife! Even though i had a relapse i have not fully gone back to my emotionally stunted place that i was in, before my reboot.

This only gives me an extra boost for going for it after my relapse 4 days ago!

I'm going strong once again!

Thanks guys!
 

Andrew1973

Active Member
ShadeTrenicin said:
On another, more positive, note. After a long period of no sexy time, the wife and I feel more connected again and i feel something is brewing under the surface, the magic is slowly coming back.  This means that the reboot has had a great effect on me as a person since i am now more open and connected to my wife! Even though i had a relapse i have not fully gone back to my emotionally stunted place that i was in, before my reboot.

Great news Shade - I am really happy for you both. Well done, and enjoy the weekend.
 

ShadeTrenicin

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Thanks UKguy!

Today is day 5 and i have no idea why, but I was completely without energy today. This was also the case yesterday evening. The wife and I had a minor disagreement over some chore, but the impact on our mental energy was massive. Somehow it felt like i hadn't slept for days.

Today this is still the case. I feel like my head is filled with clouds. Can't seem to find any energy. I ate a lot of nutricious things, but nothing seemed to help. I made a very heavy and nutricious meal and now i am so full that i can barely move. But the cloudy feeling in my head has subsided, partly at least.

The urges are coming back, physically at least. But i've kept busy today, building the roof terrace and doing all sorts of chores around the house. Also posting and reading on here.

My wife also made a post on here, you can find it in the 'Partners of addicts section' so feel free to read her side of the / our story!


That's it for now! Thanks for reading guys!

 

KittyHawk

Active Member
Hi ShadeTrenicin,

Glad to hear you are still on the good path. We started our last streak about the same time and hopefully it will work out great for both of us.
 

ShadeTrenicin

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Thanks KittyHawk! I agree;  it will work out for both of us! We both just have to keep strong, keep fighting and accept that there are bumps in the road which will cause some delays or detours. All in all it is also a process of personal development. It's not just beating an addiction. I think that in order to beat your addiction, you must be 100% willing to critically look at yourself, your thought and your actions and face the consequences of them. So basically beating addiction is critically looking at your current self and compare it to a future self you want to be. When compared, the differences in personality gives directions on where to go, yet it does not show if and how many bumps there are on the road. That is something we'll have to tackle along the way

So last night was shit. I had neck pains, a raging mind and I couldn't sleep at all! I tossed(ba dumm tss) around in my bed for 90 minutes and then the urges came, fully automated. As 'learned' from earlier behaviours!  So a quick purely natural fantasy bases MO was done to attempt to induce some relaxation. This partly helped, i was physically more relaxed but my mind kept raging on. No negative thoughts but just a torrent of diverse thoughts. One of those thoughts was that I was content with myself for MO-ing with a non-P based fantasy!

After a while I couldn't take it and went out of bed to smoke some weed (not the best approach, i am well aware of that, but it is always effective).
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So, about using drugs to avoid a certain feeling.

I'm not in favour of using substances to avoid or flee from certain situations or emotions. Better yet, i'm actually against it, since this exact behaviour is what can be a prelude to addiction. I used to PMO the same way; to get to sleep or flee from negative emotions. It's exactly the same.

From my point of view there are two ways to use substances; recreational and abuse.
In the first case one can use weed when with a group of friends, share a laugh and enjoy the collective feeling of being mellow and in the moment. In this situation the use of weed is incidental and only done in a social setting. The second situation is entirely different and not so easy to determine when use can be labeled abuse. But, for me the basic guideline in this is if you take it to feel quiet, relaxed because you are not able to do so without it, then it can quickly become abuse.

I am mainly the number one type of guy. Every few months or so, a group of friends/family will come over and we will take some weed and just listen to music, enjoy food and laugh a lot.
However, in times when I'm not feeling well (this was especially the case before me opening up about my addiction) I also used it after work or when I was agitated.
I've decided to stop doing this and only use weed when i'm in a good place.  This goes pretty well and 9 out of 10 times i wont use weed to escape or fall to sleep.

But sometimes I make an exception, like last night. And it has to do with a risk analysis. On the one hand taking weed is me fleeing; addictive behaviour and it will not force me to face what's really happening with me. But, the other side for me was that if i didn't take weed there was a high chance of me not falling asleep for hours and being a total trainwreck the next day. Me being a trainwreck can also be a catalyst for more destructive behaviour and a large change of destructive manners and possibly relapse.

So, did I use weed in an abusive manner; yes! Did the pro's outweigh the con's ? I think in this case it did.

But, i must face the hard reality that this weed use is also something that I need to address, addictional to why I couldnt sleep last night.

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I went to bed again, after I ate a small snack and in bed I've noticed that the raging mind was now calmer but that there were also physical sensations of activeness, like a warm band around my head. In the end it still took me approximately 30 minutes to fall asleep...

No chaser effect as of yet...

Today is day 6 of hard mode
 

Andrew1973

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Morning Shade - did you choose the egg avatar whilst you were stoned?! ;-)

I think you seem to have a good framework of logic around when is productive/unproductive to use weed based on a good level of awareness of your own needs and motivations. One interesting thing you say that I can relate to is:

"But, the other side for me was that if i didn't take weed there was a high chance of me not falling asleep for hours and being a total trainwreck the next day."

I am a good sleeper, but I also have this belief that if I don't get my required 8 hours, the next day will be a write off. I find that this belief causes me anxiety if, for example, the kids are messing around and not going to bed and I have to get up early (I have teenagers, so they don't want to go to sleep until late). Because I am projecting forwards and thinking about the problems this will cause me the next day, it becomes a 'self-fulfilling prophecy' and surprise surprise, I can't get to sleep. What I've learned, slowly, is that it is better for me to not be so obsessive and judgemental about the situation and let it go - I know that although I won't be 100% at my best, I still get by. That in turn reduces my anxiety and I get to sleep a lot quicker.

I also read this guide to how the special forces get to sleep in war torn situations where anxiety and adrenaline is naturally high:

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/national-napping-day-2019-fall-asleep-fast-military-trick-sleep-a8817826.html

It might be worth a read as an alternative approach for that restless mind.

I enjoy reading your thoughtful posts very much. They are a real help in my own journey, so thank you. Have a good day
 

KittyHawk

Active Member
Hi ShadeTrenicin,

Regarding on non-P-based MO: I tried similar approach in the past as well as hard mode. Trying to figure out what is a bigger trigger for P in my case. But the results were inconclusive. Sometimes, I fall for hours-long PMO edging session just because I didn't have any release for a week. So I was thinking that MO without P once in let's say 5 days might be more doable approach for me than "cold turkey." But I often ended up devoured by chaser effect the next day. So I don't know what is better.... right now I am giving another shot to the hard mode.

I will not comment much on weed, as I don't have any personal experience with it. Just be very careful not to replace one addiction with another (even though weed is believed not to be causing a hard physical addiction, you are in a very vulnerable position while quitting PMO).
 

ShadeTrenicin

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Hey Kittyhawk


I think you might be right with the chaser effect.. Last night it was the same thing; couldn't sleep... tossed and turned and after 1 hour again a quick MO.. Still tossed and turned a bit but fell asleep.. no weed needed this time.

Thanks for the link UKGuy, I'll try it tonigjt

The day went okayish i guess.. Did some work, some building, cooked ate and watched some Star Trek.. Getting tired now so about to hit the shower (poor shower) and try to sleep.. I'll abstain from MO tonight.. Don't want to induce any more chaser effect

Today was day 7!
 

Orbiter

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Ah yes the dreaded chaser effect. I was trying for awhile to do the controlled MO but the chaser happens and for me personally, the urges to look at porn are still the same.

Keep up the good fight Shade. Hope your sleep begins to improve.
 

ShadeTrenicin

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Thanks Orbiter!

My sleep last night was excellent. I fell asleep within minutes and slept for a nice 8.5 hours!
Today is going well, no urges as of yet!

I will keep you guys updated
 

ShadeTrenicin

Well-Known Member
So,

Today is day 10 already! Last nights sleep was pretty good! The night before not so much, MO'd again, but pure normal fantasy luckily..
I've found out that when i purposely take the time to unwind and look within i have virtually no trouble of getting to sleep.. But if I just keep going at stuff without time to stand still and analyse what's going on, my mind just keeps on raging.. So that's the lesson for me at the moment.

Urge-wise there is a lot going on.. But, nothing i can't handle at the moment. I start my day on this forum and actually take my sweet time to read and sometimes post. This really helps me to put my urges into perspective.. I've made that nice 6 point action plan to help me battle my urges, but one of the things i'm not good at is to take myself seriously. This has been one of my most prominent traps; I set a goal for myself, don't take myself seriously, don't commit to the goal, fail and then feel bad for myself and give up the goal completely. For P this was also the case..

So I've been doing a lot of online meditations on self love and self forgiveness and they trigger a lot of emotions within myself. It helps me understand my addicted self and most importantly to forgive myself. And by doing that I'm taking myself and my emotions more serious.

Cheers guys
 
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