Escape and never come back

Escapeandnevercomeback

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Day 0

PMO x 4


This shit will be the death of me. It's my crack and my heroin, at the same time. The high is so strong, so intense, I can't get rid of it. The sedation is nice, right now I'm numb, nicely sedated. It's the second time this month when I sabotage myself, just so I can get the "pleasure" as quickly as possible. I did it once before the vacation, that I had been looking forward to for a month and then post-binge I didn't enjoy shit. I did it the second time today before the next week that it's going to be stressful and I need to be less neurotic.

I don't even want to quit porn. What I'm doing doesn't show that I want to do this. Since 10 years ago when I've become obsessed with "how to obtain the greatest high ever", I've been saying I want to quit but I actually don't. I don't want to quit, I want pleasure. If I had wanted to quit, I would've done it already. I don't know what more to say anymore, I don't know who the fuck and what I want anymore. What's pleasure? Why do I even care about it? Don't do what I do.
 

Simon2

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I don't even want to quit porn. What I'm doing doesn't show that I want to do this. Since 10 years ago when I've become obsessed with "how to obtain the greatest high ever", I've been saying I want to quit but I actually don't. I don't want to quit, I want pleasure. If I had wanted to quit, I would've done it already. I don't know what more to say anymore, I don't know who the fuck and what I want anymore. What's pleasure? Why do I even care about it? Don't do what I do.

Why indeed? Why care? Why not just give in to the pleasure? I've asked myself that countless times over many many years. For a while I gave up and did just that - just reveled in the pleasure. It was the worst time of my life as far as the addiction goes. I hated myself. I wasted away - time, money, self respect...

A part of me will never want to quit porn. That's the honest truth. Probably yours too? In the moment its so blissful to just indulge and set the world aside. BUT - we know how it destroys us, how we hate ourselves after, all of it.

That's why. Like every tale of victory over evil it starts with a dark, dark period in a forest where we have to face a monster. Ours is a big one. Don't give up. You CAN beat it. It's not worth throwing our lives away for "pleasure" - the sum total of that approach is greater pain.
 

Escapeandnevercomeback

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Why indeed? Why care? Why not just give in to the pleasure? I've asked myself that countless times over many many years. For a while I gave up and did just that - just reveled in the pleasure. It was the worst time of my life as far as the addiction goes. I hated myself. I wasted away - time, money, self respect...

A part of me will never want to quit porn. That's the honest truth. Probably yours too? In the moment its so blissful to just indulge and set the world aside. BUT - we know how it destroys us, how we hate ourselves after, all of it.

That's why. Like every tale of victory over evil it starts with a dark, dark period in a forest where we have to face a monster. Ours is a big one. Don't give up. You CAN beat it. It's not worth throwing our lives away for "pleasure" - the sum total of that approach is greater pain.
Yes, you're right, we all know how this goes. Why not give in and indulge completely in pleasure without giving a fuck about anything else? Because deep down inside I know this is not what I want from my life. I believe most of us here have this struggle, a part of us doesn't want to quit. But the problem with me is that I haven't figure out a way to stay away from this shit porn for longer. I relapse under 10 days, it's ridiculous.
 
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Escapeandnevercomeback

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Day 1

I am sick and tired of binging and spinning in the same fuckin circle.

Neuroticism is back to high again, the feeling of dread is here again.

I wanted to PMO in the morning but for some reason I didn't.

I'm depressed and unmotivated.
 
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forceisstrong2

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Hey man,

Look I was going through the relapse under ten days cycle too. It sucks big time I know.

For me anyway, I had to build strategies for myself to defeat this thing.

Mental health-wise - I meditate mornings and evenings. Some days with a group. Also, I got swimming a few times a week. All of this is really strong for my mental health. And we need it strong if we're going to defeat this thing.

I don't trust myself around my phone/computer. So I've put loads of porn blockers on them. I also use the freedom app to limit my screen time.

As for life - I make sure to meet friends, family. Go on dates. Chat to real girls!

For me at least, I had to approach this thing like it was a task at work. Okay here are all the steps I need to take to defeat this thing and build a better life for myself. What's great about this forum is that I'm able to track my progress and also of course the support and great advice from people on their own journeys.

You can do it, man. Also, do read The War of Art - it's great. It made me reexamine my life and it was a real help.

All the best
 

Escapeandnevercomeback

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Hey man,

Look I was going through the relapse under ten days cycle too. It sucks big time I know.

For me anyway, I had to build strategies for myself to defeat this thing.

Mental health-wise - I meditate mornings and evenings. Some days with a group. Also, I got swimming a few times a week. All of this is really strong for my mental health. And we need it strong if we're going to defeat this thing.

I don't trust myself around my phone/computer. So I've put loads of porn blockers on them. I also use the freedom app to limit my screen time.

As for life - I make sure to meet friends, family. Go on dates. Chat to real girls!

For me at least, I had to approach this thing like it was a task at work. Okay here are all the steps I need to take to defeat this thing and build a better life for myself. What's great about this forum is that I'm able to track my progress and also of course the support and great advice from people on their own journeys.

You can do it, man. Also, do read The War of Art - it's great. It made me reexamine my life and it was a real help.

All the best
Hey man, thanks for suggestions. I appreciate the support.
 

Simon2

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When I was in my darkest hole I got myself professional help from a councelor. It was a very important step, though really humbling at first. Are you talking to someone? It really is worth trying. Someone who specializes in addictions or sex/porn addiction in particular but there are also many resources to get help with depression.

Sometimes we just can't do this on our own and that doesn't make us losers.

All the best!
 

Escapeandnevercomeback

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When I was in my darkest hole I got myself professional help from a councelor. It was a very important step, though really humbling at first. Are you talking to someone? It really is worth trying. Someone who specializes in addictions or sex/porn addiction in particular but there are also many resources to get help with depression.

Sometimes we just can't do this on our own and that doesn't make us losers.

All the best!
Hey man, I appreciate the help. You know, I've been thinking for a long time to seek professional help but (shout out to @forceisstrong2 for the book), I've read a part of The War of Art and I have learned a new term, Resistance. I'm very positive now that my Resistance is very strong. I know I should've looked for therapy help a long time ago. But I guess I need someone who specializes in trauma/PTSD type of stuff, you know. Because that's the root of my addictions and shit life. A human being has two "environments": Household and "everybody else", the social life, friends, relationships, school etc whatever you want to call it. The part with "everybody else" for me was a disaster all my life. I was bullied, I was unable to connect etc. And this has created a PTSD, a trauma sort of thing.
 

Simon2

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Give in to this resistance brother. To heal physically we need a doctor sometimes. To heal from PTSD and trauma, addiction, we sometimes also need a professional. We are told by society to deal with it, be a man, whatever. It's bullshit. Being a man should mean knowing when we need help and not being afraid to get it.

We are all very good at finding stuff on the internet. If you use some of those skills you've honed hunting for P, then I am confident you can find someone to help you with your mental health who you're comfortable with. Not sure where you live. Here this resource was really helpful for me:

I imagine similar directories exist in other places. I like that I could sort by type of therapy and type of issue I am facing.
 

Escapeandnevercomeback

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Give in to this resistance brother. To heal physically we need a doctor sometimes. To heal from PTSD and trauma, addiction, we sometimes also need a professional. We are told by society to deal with it, be a man, whatever. It's bullshit. Being a man should mean knowing when we need help and not being afraid to get it.
We are all very good at finding stuff on the internet. If you use some of those skills you've honed hunting for P, then I am confident you can find someone to help you with your mental health who you're comfortable with. Not sure where you live. Here this resource was really helpful for me:

I imagine similar directories exist in other places. I like that I could sort by type of therapy and type of issue I am facing.
I know, man. I know I need help. I'm 31 and a wreck. Soon to be 32... and a wreck. I believe it is a combination of my brain (maybe I'm on the spectrum but it's just maybe cause I am not a doctor), then how people treated me and then ultimately my fault. And the result is an almost 32 years old bitter, depressed. This is not how I envisioned my life at 16. What the fuck happened, man?
 

downhillfromhere

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Hey man, I appreciate the help. You know, I've been thinking for a long time to seek professional help but (shout out to @forceisstrong2 for the book), I've read a part of The War of Art and I have learned a new term, Resistance. I'm very positive now that my Resistance is very strong. I know I should've looked for therapy help a long time ago. But I guess I need someone who specializes in trauma/PTSD type of stuff, you know. Because that's the root of my addictions and shit life. A human being has two "environments": Household and "everybody else", the social life, friends, relationships, school etc whatever you want to call it. The part with "everybody else" for me was a disaster all my life. I was bullied, I was unable to connect etc. And this has created a PTSD, a trauma sort of thing.
I like this @Escapeandnevercomeback. There are probably reasons why all of us are here, and maybe how we get out of this is looking into this stuff. Seeking help from a professional is a good thing and can be really helpful. I admit I was very defensive the first time someone floated the idea for me, but I'm really glad I sought our a psychiatrist and started looking into what went wrong in my life.

Will also read this book, The War of Art, it sounds interesting.
 

forceisstrong2

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Hey Escape,

SimonM is right. It does sound like you're dealing with some tough issues and that you need to see a professional counselor or therapist. If I was you, I'd get on that ASAP.

All I will say is that when you do find a way past this addiction, life is so much better. And, man, you're only 31. You're young. You've your whole life ahead of you. Stay positive and reach out to people and do please get help.

We're all here for you, man.

All the best.
 

Escapeandnevercomeback

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I like this @Escapeandnevercomeback. There are probably reasons why all of us are here, and maybe how we get out of this is looking into this stuff. Seeking help from a professional is a good thing and can be really helpful. I admit I was very defensive the first time someone floated the idea for me, but I'm really glad I sought our a psychiatrist and started looking into what went wrong in my life.

Will also read this book, The War of Art, it sounds interesting.
Hey, man, I know you're right. I don't even know why I don't want to seek professional help. I know, I have this big fear of opening up but why? Why is it so strong? Why am I doing this to myself? Maybe I know the answer: It's maybe because I'm almost 32 and immature, unstable and acting like a teenager still? And I'm afraid of being exposed like that? But anyway, thanks for support.
 

Escapeandnevercomeback

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Hey Escape,

SimonM is right. It does sound like you're dealing with some tough issues and that you need to see a professional counselor or therapist. If I was you, I'd get on that ASAP.

All I will say is that when you do find a way past this addiction, life is so much better. And, man, you're only 31. You're young. You've your whole life ahead of you. Stay positive and reach out to people and do please get help.

We're all here for you, man.

All the best.
I know, man. I know you're right. I know I should've done this already long ago, years ago. It's clear I don't know how to do this myself. It's clear I'm lost, I'm dealing with trauma, PTSD or whatever it is. Maybe I have some disorders that I don't know about. I know that when I was a kid I showed Autism symptoms. In my late 20's I looked back at my childhood and discovered that but I'm not diagnosed so I won't refer to myself as on the spectrum out of respect for people who have the diagnose. I'm not a doctor. But what I can say for sure is that this "disorder" or whatever the fuck it was had a big impact on my childhood. As a result, I was bullied and isolated. This created a trauma. My addictions are a result of all this. At 14 I was masturbating daily to flashbacks of porn and fantasies created by using porn as a form of self-medication. But anyway, I know you're right, I know I need help. Thanks for the support.
 
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Escapeandnevercomeback

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Day 0

PMO x 1


Relapse.

I've been relapsing (binging in fact) constantly under a week since the beginning of September, actually I haven't even made it to day 5 yet this month. I jerk off to porn for soothing. Since the beginning of this month I've been experiencing lethargy, high anxiety, depression, a constant feeling of dread all day (even during days when I have nothing to worry about), excessive worrying, overthinking, feeling overwhelmed by everything, brain fog, shit concentration, shit memory, shit sleep and maybe more.

Lately, I've been sabotaging myself with porn binges right before events where I needed to have a longer streak going on and experience less of what I wrote in the first paragraph. But I've been grabbing my dick, edging and PMO-ing with absolutely no concern in the heat of the moment about my life, chasing desperately with narrow vision the high and the sedation and then when the events came, I beat myself in the head for being an idiot. I feel like shit for days for a moment of pleasure. I've been depressed daily, with no interest in life, since the beginning of September, maybe even before that. I've even being fuckin suicidal, I mean not suicidal like that but, you know, not being excited to be alive and stuff like that. I mean, I am really not excited to be alive like this, I don't feel well. I don't feel anything, absolutely anything. Actually, I do feel something: Depression, high anxiety and anger. I do feel three things. And nothing else. No joy, no excitement, no motivation, no drive, nothing.
 
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