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fcjl8

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Thank you LTE, Cosmo and somethingelse, your kind words and support are a real help to me.

I feel somewhat better and more balanced today. I have thought and prayed on what I am feeling. I think a lot of it is guilt and shame?

My resolve to not use porn and masturbation is at an all time high. I can not conceive of using that again. It makes me feel sick just thinking about it.

But then, I think about remorse or guilt for all the time and energy I devoted to it over the years. I had truly made it an idol, a friend used the term sexual idolatry a few years ago and that is perfect. So I am feeling some pain for letting that happen in my life and being so cluless that it went on unchecked and unquestioned by me for so many years.

Talked with our amazing Pastor after service, they make themselves available after every service. I disclosed what I have had as an addiction and how I have battled it for several years. He discussed accountability and how important that is in dealing with this, I agreed. He talked about forgiveness. How I am forgiven and that is the central message today especially being Easter. He suggested that I was not forgiving myself... and there was pride and ego aiding in that lack of forgiveness. Good words I needed to hear. All this at the front of the church , quietly together. He held my hand and prayed over me then we hugged.
 
fcjl8 said:
My resolve to not use porn and masturbation is at an all time high. I can not conceive of using that again. It makes me feel sick just thinking about it.

I had truly made it an idol, a friend used the term sexual idolatry a few years ago and that is perfect.

I could not agree more Brother Paul, your friends quite the visionary. I think 'sexual idolatry' is a truly golden word. We all have our share of regrets my good man, often regrets can be contradictory. Your's is one of nostalgia, for thing's you have experienced in recovery. I think porn stains our souls, but the fact that you feel sorrow for your actions opens a route to forgiveness.

My spiritual leader told me to seek forgiveness I had to regret the sin, promise to never do it again and then ask for forgiveness. I pray you keep reaping benefits and you live your life anew.

And A Great Weekend Ahead
 

fcjl8

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Busy day today! Physical work up on ladders... I did not sleep well last night so it went well considering!

Finished and delivered a couple of tough projects in the afternoon.. Still kind of dragging my feet but it's a bit better today.

Must get back at the cardio and weights again, been a couple of weeks and that is hurting my mood.
 

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fcjl8 said:
Busy day today! Physical work up on ladders... I did not sleep well last night so it went well considering!

Finished and delivered a couple of tough projects in the afternoon.. Still kind of dragging my feet but it's a bit better today.

Must get back at the cardio and weights again, been a couple of weeks and that is hurting my mood.

Just don't start hanging out at those ladder-PUA sites. :)
 

fcjl8

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Sorry LTE I don't even know what that means.

A few nights in a row of poor sleep. Just got some exercise in hoping that helps sleep. Will skip evening tea tonight. Only one small coffee today. The worst part of insomnia is thinking about it. Going to get away from screens an hour before bed read and listen to soft music.

No porn and no masturbation, aside from just writing this out no thoughts even!!
 

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Sorry LTE I don't even know what that means.
Lame humor. You were talking about picking up ladders and I was talking about pickup artist sites for guys that want to pick up ladders . . . as opposed to PUA site for guys that want to pickup women.
 

fcjl8

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Starting to climb out of the wave of depression I have been dealing with. Feeling much more comfortable and better each day.

Went to see captain america with my wife and son last night, we rarely go to the movies, so a great treat! Good fun.

Work today, at least 4-5 hours, not my usual but better!

At least during this last down week, I have had no urges whatsoever! Even , suggested that we not have "fun" yesterday during my wife's day off, I am pursuing a no O route for a while, let things settle a bit and have no O intimacy only! See how this goes.

Going to discuss SSRI with my doc tomorrow??
 

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fcjl8 said:
Starting to climb out of the wave of depression I have been dealing with. Feeling much more comfortable and better each day.

Went to see captain america with my wife and son last night, we rarely go to the movies, so a great treat! Good fun.

Work today, at least 4-5 hours, not my usual but better!

At least during this last down week, I have had no urges whatsoever! Even , suggested that we not have "fun" yesterday during my wife's day off, I am pursuing a no O route for a while, let things settle a bit and have no O intimacy only! See how this goes.

Going to discuss SSRI with my doc tomorrow??
Glad to hear that things are improving.
 

fcjl8

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Full day, trip to the big city.

Doctor's check up and that looked good , must get bloodwork... gonna try the SSRI again. This medication has an affect on serotonin funny enough serotonin is one of the brain chemicals that we get hooked on through sexuality and masturbation. Hhhhhmmmm... so I probably spent a good part of my life seeking to balance out the discomfort of low serotonin?? Or, I got myself used to exceptionally high amounts of serotonin while using PMO??? Food for thought.

I am averse to drug use of any kind but this past week or so has been very rough.

Anyway, survived the trip to the city and enjoyed some errands and lunch with my wife!
 

LetItGoAlready

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Starting to climb out of the wave of depression I have been dealing with. Feeling much more comfortable and better each day.
I'm glad you're getting the help you feel you need and are not letting this take over your life. Sometimes we just need a boost.
 

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Full day, trip to the big city.

Doctor's check up and that looked good , must get bloodwork... gonna try the SSRI again. This medication has an affect on serotonin funny enough serotonin is one of the brain chemicals that we get hooked on through sexuality and masturbation. Hhhhhmmmm... so I probably spent a good part of my life seeking to balance out the discomfort of low serotonin?? Or, I got myself used to exceptionally high amounts of serotonin while using PMO??? Food for thought.

I am averse to drug use of any kind but this past week or so has been very rough.

Anyway, survived the trip to the city and enjoyed some errands and lunch with my wife!
The interplay of depression and PMO seems to be present in at least some cases. I wish I could assemble the pieces of the puzzle.
 

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Congratulations.  I read your message and have the feeling we have similar past experiences.  I am 52 and began my journey 9 days ago. I am happy I am doing it and wish you all the best for keeping on.
 

fcjl8

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So ... better weekend than I have had in a while. Very busy, struggling to catch up on some client work I fell behind on.

Strong on the no PMO front, in fact on the no O front... going to take a low key approach and truly avoid any O with my wonderful wife for some period of time! I am not advocating this for everyone I just want my low mood and depression to settle for a while.
 

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fcjl8 said:
So ... better weekend than I have had in a while. Very busy, struggling to catch up on some client work I fell behind on.

Strong on the no PMO front, in fact on the no O front... going to take a low key approach and truly avoid any O with my wonderful wife for some period of time! I am not advocating this for everyone I just want my low mood and depression to settle for a while.
Good going, mate!
 

Zyrock

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just curious, how will no O with your wife help with low mood and depression?

sorry to hear about depression? i empathize, wish you the best brother
 

fcjl8

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Hey Zyrock,

That is a great question. I certainly have always been an advocate for both sexual and non sexual bonding with my wife and suggested the same to many men both with wives and girlfriends... I do believe it is good medicine for men in PMO addiction recovery.

I just think for me , right now, I might try the non O karezza approach a bit more. We will still have good physical intimacy but I will just lay low on the O's for a while and see what happens. I had enjoyed 3 O's in pretty short time frame just before my depression hit, so that got me thinking, on the other hand I also had a bad flu before that , maybe that was a factor? Or, the never ending bleak winter we are having??
 

SlaveToRighteousness

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In my experiments with my wife over the past month or so, we have sex until she has 1-2 orgasms, and then I enjoy myself for a little while longer until either she is clearly ready to stop or I feel like I'm getting close to O. I then pull out and we're done for the evening. We do this 1-2 times per week, and then once every week or so I allow myself to finish with an O.

I have found that I am MUCH more interested in sex in between sessions if I don't O than if I do, and I have always found that my Os are super strong and explosive when I finally allow myself to go there.

Prior to these experiments, when I would O at the end of every session, I would have no interest in sex at all in between sessions and my penis felt dead. I prefer to feel alive down there rather than dead, even if it means not going all the way to O nearly as often...
 

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fcjl8 said:
Hey Zyrock,

That is a great question. I certainly have always been an advocate for both sexual and non sexual bonding with my wife and suggested the same to many men both with wives and girlfriends... I do believe it is good medicine for men in PMO addiction recovery.

I couldn't agree with you more  8)
 

fcjl8

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Great workout, first solid workout in about 2 and half weeks, hoping this and chamomile teas will help my sleep tonight.

Last night tossed and turned and restless leg and racing thoughts most of the night. I slept commando beside my wife, this has been my habit for years but I think I honestly found it a bit too hot with her legs so close. Will go back to comfy underwear as I have been doing for several weeks!

 

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fcjl8 said:
Great workout, first solid workout in about 2 and half weeks, hoping this and chamomile teas will help my sleep tonight.

Last night tossed and turned and restless leg and racing thoughts most of the night. I slept commando beside my wife, this has been my habit for years but I think I honestly found it a bit too hot with her legs so close. Will go back to comfy underwear as I have been doing for several weeks!
I used to have nights like that. These days, I usually sleep like a rock.
 
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