Pushing back!

Sanders

Active Member
Hey Chris,

47 days without porn is great, you managed it that far and I'm sure it's done a world of good to your brains and body. Hope you can break the relapse cycle and get back on the horse again. You've paved the way for healthier aspects in your life and I'm sure that with the knowledge and reflection you've gained you can make a succesful restart.

I trust you can do it. All the best!
 

Chris Oz

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Day 2 went well..

I had a lovely Sunday. I went to church for the first time since they government allowed churches to hold services in my country. Even though they kept guidelines with social distancing and washing of hands... I still didn't feel safe. And it only got worse cause i forgot my face mask. I had to put a notice on the gate when I came back so I'd always remember.

I also finished a series of graphic design I've been doing since Monday.
I had a lovely time with God doing my devotional. It was good. It drew me closer and made me feel more loved. I can only beat this addiction with His strength so I'm making God a priority.

Tomorrow I'd be starting a training about electrical wiring.. Mixed feelings there. I dunno what to expect. If I'd love the experience. But I'd try to at least give it a shot.

I did not have urges today... Even though I became bored at one point of the day. I'm really grateful for another day of sobrierity. Thank you Jesus.

Thank you Sanders for the encouragement, I appreciate it alot.

Pushing back!
Chris
 

Chris Oz

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Day 3
Quick check in. Had a lovely day. It was cold today but I overcame... No porn. So happy victorious day
Pushing back
Chris
 

Chris Oz

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Day 5

Yesterday, I slept off while I was trying to check in... Was very tired. I had an eventful day. Almost had an accident at the work place but God averted it. Didn't think about porn too.

Today I woke up from a sex dream... It wasn't too aggressive like some other ones. I also feel very weak as a result of stress, and I'm falling il. But I think I'd find a way to still go today. I need to learn something about the job. I hope to have a porn free day. I'm grateful also for yesterday. To make today possible I'm going straight ahead to do my devotional and prayers. My spiritual factor is the most important strand for recovery.
Pushing back!
Chris
 

glacier

Member
Read the whole journal from the beginning, it's good to see you are still going. Keep on going and keep to your routines.
 

Sanders

Active Member
Good to be back on the positive streak again! Good luck the coming days, truly happy that you've bounced back now from the relapse mode.
 

Chris Oz

Well-Known Member
Hmm, how I do I say this.... I relapsed :(
Coming here and seeing all your messages makes me feel worse about the action.. No if 'onlys' though, I'm done with that.

Watched a movie.. Saw some soft sexual scenes.. Danced around some middle circle thoughts and actions and crashed in to watching porn from telegram and then a website. I just wonder how it was so easy for me to give in.

I realized that if I don't catch myself in the first 15secs when I start fantasizing, I'd be in for torment from sexual urges for a while


So sorry for disappointing you guys. I'm bouncing back immediately.
God help me to keep pushing.
Chris
 

soumahaka

Member
Hi bro, I think you are abusing the goal of the forum. Instead of posting every day what you do and face, it will be wise to learn deeply about addiction and read others stories to motivate you rather than posting every single day what you are doing. Thanks.
 

glacier

Member
Don't see it as a defeat but as an oppurtunity to learn a great deal about yourself. What lead to the relapse? What factors can you change?

For example, I need to admit that I'm not really the "strong will" person. Well, in good times I really want to stop and I'm super disciplined. Bad what about the bad times? They occur. And I think a key element is to learn what are these "bad" situations for yourself, how can you prevent them, and what can you do when your in such a "bad" sitution? The last times you mentioned that a messenger app (or its content) lead down a certain path. Seems like you should avoid it.

Keep on going!

Edit: You also mention movies quite often. I know this is difficult. Same for me ... Maybe only watch movies with other persons. Or after watching a movie going immediatly for a walk to get some space (and get away from your devices).
 
J

J01

Guest
Chris, great work, am encouraged by your perseverance and commitment!

I would now like to respond to soumahaka, who posted at 1:30 earlier today in your journal.  soumahaka, you need to do a few things:  1) apologize to Chris for your smug and incredibly wretched comment you made in his journal  2)  start your own journal and teach us lowlives how we can be great like you, coming out of the blue and dispensing wisdom and telling us how it all works. We would love to gain your incredible insights of how you attained such a wonderful family life, prosperous career, burgeoning and ever expanding active social life etc etc etc; please share with us, I can't wait.

Your post was one of the worst I have ever seen here, and believe me, that is no small accomplishment. 
       
 

kopp

Active Member
Our messages shouldn't make you feel worse Chris, no one is disappointed in you. We like you, we want you to succeed and we all've been through relapses before. Be nice to yourself! We just want you to keep improving your life :)

Cheers brother!
 

Chris Oz

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Good evening guys.... It's Day 2 for me since my last relapse.

It's great to see your messages. Thanks for your encouragement kopp, Sanders and glacier. For your advice glacier.... It makes sense. But I kind of doubt that's the problem for me. I do enjoy movies more when I watch it alone too. It kind of help me form my own thoughts and perspective of what I'm watching rather than having a commentary or suggestive looks and reactions from the next person. But thanks for the advice, I really appreciate it.

More than movies there's one thing I've noticed as far back as I can remember for years... For every relapse, I failed that day to do my devotional. This happens at least 95% of the time. The more far away I am from God... The more I have less resolve and fighting power to not act... It seems as though I'm setting myself up. I can compare my whole journey with masturbation to the story of the Isrealites and  their consecutive turning away from God in the Bible.

That's why I term my time with devotional, meditations and prayer my most crucial strand in the bunch for recovery. Personally, thats my experience.

About, today it was great. My twin brother, ( Yeah, I have a twin... Unidentical though)  launched his online Instagram store today @Marvic_empire. It was great, I got to apply my skills as a graphic designer for him which was rewarding as well as fulfilling for me. And I'm so happy for him. I got to work today late and was playing catch up most of the day. But as always it ends with me learning something new even though it's just for a little bit. I need to go online and aid myself with videos about electrical wiring to better understand what's going on.

soumahaka said:
Hi bro, I think you are abusing the goal of the forum. Instead of posting every day what you do and face, it will be wise to learn deeply about addiction and read others stories to motivate you rather than posting every single day what you are doing. Thanks.

To soumahaka, I was really stunned with your reply.... Partly because I didn't understand what you meant by the abuse... But trying to understand what you were saying, I think you meant that I should leave writing about my experience on a forum since I keep stumbling and just try to learn from other forums who have authors doing pretty well with their recovery, also invest time in learning more about the addiction through materials available.

I agree with you that I need to invest more time learning more through materials available on the site and also on other channels. To be honest I feel I don't do that as much as I should... Thanks for pointing that out for me.

But on the other hand, I don't believe there's any abuse with talking about my experiences daily both failures and victories. I think that's the whole point of having the forums. It's put out there so people can learn from your experience and also connect with others who have similar experiences.
Also, No one is perfect. Today the topic of my devotional said 'It's never too late'. And quote the author
" No matter how long you have travelled in the wrong direction, you can always turn around. With Jesus it?s never too late to make a new start and ensure that your life is set in the right direction."

It's been a real boost and encouragement for me. It just seemed as though God was talking directly to me.

So.tge purpose of entries is not to prove you're living the best of your life  or showing the way to those who are so unfortunate to be burdened with recurring relapses and guilt. No! It's to help you and me reflect on our lives our actions and become better people, find solutions and connect with others who are going through the same issues as you or have gone through them.

If there's one good thing this addiction to pornography and masturbation has taught me, it has helped me to stop judging others no matter what they've done and how bad it might seem; it has helped me to start with understanding and humility when reacting to other people's faults.

Thank you guys again for your replies. And sorry for the long reply
Keep pushing back!
Chris
 

Sanders

Active Member
Hey Chris,

One important thing to remember, this is your journal, not ours. All the people here on the forum are there to help each other but in the end you write here for your own recovery. I hope you don't get discouraged to post about what happened, it's important for you to go through what you've experienced and what led up to the relapse. Nobody is here to judge you, only to help.

That being said...

soumahaka said:
Hi bro, I think you are abusing the goal of the forum. Instead of posting every day what you do and face, it will be wise to learn deeply about addiction and read others stories to motivate you rather than posting every single day what you are doing. Thanks.

Soumahaka, I'm not sure whether you're at the right place here if you write these messages. People have their personal journal where they go through their recovery process in their own steps. I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve but it's not really helpful in my honest opinion. People here support each other, that's the strength of this forum. This here is Chris' journal where he logs his life and progress and that hopefully helps him.

Anyways, best of luck Chris. Don't feel any pressure to write or share anything here, everyone except that guy wants to help :)
 

Chris Oz

Well-Known Member
Thanks Sanders! I rely appreciate your support

Today I'm on day 4. Day 3 was more of a blast through... Was so busy with work and other stuff, I forgot I was an addict. I hope that comes tho ugh someday soon.
Today on the other hand. I had this masturbation episode in the morning... And it later got me wandering, is it possible I have ED?

For a while now... I ejaculate too soon; I noticed it some weeks ago. It happens mostly when I'm applying too much pressure to the bottom of my penis....and when I'm masturbung on the bed. Rubbing my penis against a surface or something (not with my hands). With my hands, it usually takes a while. At least 75% of the time.
I don't mean to be descriptive... I'm just trying to help you guys understand this stuff.

I'm getting scared I might be one of those guys who wouldn't be able to satisfy his wife... A one minute man or so they call it. I mean, I'm only 23 and I've never even really had sex! It's just feelings motions and all.  :'(

So I'm thinking it's best I face the possibility of it. First what exactly is ED. If you've gone through it, I would need your input please. And how does one overcome it?
 

Chris Oz

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Day 5 No PMO| Day 1 Nofap

Today was so blissful for me. Had a wonderful meditation session. I feel very much blessed today. I had a real conversation with the holy spirit... It was beautiful, we talked about everything. It wasnt very long. I realize that instead of just asking God for stuff all the time through prayer I could also wait and listen and boy has it been a blessing.

So I'm doing my devotionals and prayers now twice a day. It should help me with my recovery better.

I also decided to undergo a 30 day challenge for No fap. It should help me with the ED stuff I talked about earlier. I was inspired by Stanfield to go for the no fap challenge.

Today I did a lot, tidied my room, wrote up a schedule, fixed my guitar, called old friends and it was refreshing.

Have another por free day guys
Keep pushing back!
Chris
 

Chris Oz

Well-Known Member
Day 6 No PMO| Day 2 Nofap

Good day guys. I want to say I'm good I received a huge boost today.

First of I want to say I experienced a little nightmare this morning and then after that when the day cleared up I had this some intense urges although it didn't last for long. Thank God I didn't give in.

Secondly, I want to thank Sanders. I was reading a journal... And then I saw one of his comment where he gave an advice to this pal who thought he had PIED. He also mentioned that the post was supposed to be in an other section of the forum...

This made me understand that I've been so stuck up on just one part of this forum that I ignored the other forums where one can ask questions and get help as well. I also started watching Gabe deems videos on the YouTube channel and after the first two he posted 5 years ago..... I'm pumped up.

I gotta get rid of porn for good. I realized there actually is no place for porn..

Knowing more about how porn works and e, poring this site for other useful forums and materials will be of tremendous help to everyone and so I urge you to ease do so. Watch the videos on the YouTube page from the beginning... It mustn't be all at once.

Also, I realized that I didn't actually have ED but what I had was premature ejaculation. Of course, if I continue with porn I'm sure to go on to get serious PIED. Even still everything is fixable it we just withdraw from porn. Rewiring the brain does that. Thank God!

Keep pushing back guys!
Chris
 

Sanders

Active Member
Hey Chris,

Happy to see you're progressing well :) I myself haven't (fortunately) developed any physical problems, it's really good you've noticed this about yourself and try to take neccesary steps. Good luck on that! Knowledge is power here I'd say, information is available everywhere, nobody here judges you. Hope you can find what you need.

Chris Oz said:
I'm getting scared I might be one of those guys who wouldn't be able to satisfy his wife...

Just quickly about this, what's important is that porn and sex are pretty different concepts. Most women don't really get that much satisfaction from just the vaginal sex itself. It's much more than that, giving attention, build-up, intimate touch, anticipation and whatnot. I don't think it's too useful here to go into great detail about these things but I wouldn't really worry about that too much. Communication is a really important aspect of actual sex. It's not a performance as porn makes it out to be, it's something much greater!

Anyways, good luck! All the best to you. Seems like you've found some extra motivation.
 

wwalker19

Active Member
Hey Chris,

You've got this!  Something you said in one of your earlier posts was actually very helpful for me, that if you don't catch your fantasies within 15 seconds they run away and torment you.  I've had similar experiences too, so thank you for making that clearer to me.  I am rooting for you as well!
 
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