36, PIED, new plan

Just ordered the book so looking forward to diving into that. Hell looking forward to reading a book completely. It's been over 10 yrs since I've did that. Yea his YouTube videos are good as well. I actually listen to them on the way to work and while in the gym.
 

logicprox

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Just ordered the book so looking forward to diving into that. Hell looking forward to reading a book completely. It's been over 10 yrs since I've did that. Yea his YouTube videos are good as well. I actually listen to them on the way to work and while in the gym.
I've found getting back to reading generally to be helpful. I think TV/movies/internet all kind of activate the same pathways as porn to a decent extent. Reading generally reduces my urges and honestly makes me feel really good. Peaceful.
 

logicprox

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34 days.

Work has been crazy busy and very stressful (as expected) the last couple of weeks, with about a week of that to go. Yesterday I was so tired at the end of the day I made a rare exception and actually watched some Netflix. I watched about 20 minutes of a cartoon movie before losing interest. My brain seems to be getting so desperate at this point that it was attracted to a completely non-sexualized female character in this cartoon lol. And not just visually, her voice was turning me on a little. And no, I never was into any cartoon porn or anything like that. Seems like my brain is just looking for some sort of sexual stimulation somewhere, I guess? Or maybe it's a sign of rebooting a little that a voice can be attractive to me again.

Either way it weirded me out a little haha. But didn't feel significant urges to use, and carried on with my night without issue. Just...interesting lol.
 

logicprox

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35 days. I ordered a bike at a local bike store yesterday. Getting serious about this getting serious about fitness again thing. Starting to train for triathlons. As a kid I never really got comfortable on a bike and was always afraid of going down big hills. These life changes have me finally facing fears from childhood lol.
 

Jswizzle

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35 days. I ordered a bike at a local bike store yesterday. Getting serious about this getting serious about fitness again thing. Starting to train for triathlons. As a kid I never really got comfortable on a bike and was always afraid of going down big hills. These life changes have me finally facing fears from childhood lol.
Good work, man! Wishing you the best in expanding your recovery.
 

logicprox

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36 days.

The urges I get feel different right now. They still come, a few times a day. But they feel sort of distant, not so on top of me like they used to. I can tell, though, that if I were to go greet them for a moment, they would be right here and it would be easy to slip. But as long as I don't choose to be interested in them, they aren't very significant. And I am not interested in them. Because porn does nothing for me, and takes everything.
 

logicprox

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37 days.

Work is a nightmare right now, 12-15 hour days, on like 20+ days consecutively working. I only mention that because I'm dead tired and over the last couple of days my sleep has been pretty meh from the stress, and I have been waking up more in the night.

Historically, being exhausted has been somewhat of a trigger for me, and I would say 75%+ of the time when I have slipped after a good streak it's been waking up in the middle of the night, and either just using PMO almost before my half-asleep brain can catch up or after laying in bed unable to fall back asleep for a long time and finally giving in to the idea that I need PMO to relax my brain to fall asleep.

So far I feel fine. I haven't had any issues the last couple of days. I mention this mostly to get myself mentally prepared for those scenarios if they do come. So here's what I need in my mind.

1. PMO does nothing for me. This nothing includes the fact that 9 times out of 10 using PMO doesn't even help me go back to sleep. I typically lay in bed awake for a long time after PMO still. It just deadens my anxiety about the lack of sleep a little. But deadening the anxiety a little doesn't fundamentally change the fact that I am not getting sleep. If I actually want to fall back asleep I should do some mindfulness or just accept that I am awake and read.

2. I am lucky to have some flex in my morning schedule because most of my team is an hour earlier than me and I start when they start, so I can just, for a couple of days skip a couple things typically I do before work such as my workout or my singing practice or my goof of on guitar time. That allows me the option to sleep a bit later than I usually do and still start work on time. I only have 4 more days of work hell to go, it's not going to break any of my goals to pause some of these things fo 4 days.

3. If I really am feeling overwhelmed by an urge, it's ok to take extreme measures. I can walk out in the freezing cold at 2 am or whenever it is and get away from my devices. Freezing cold typically brings my executive function back on board.

4. I can remember that I stopped using PMO 37 days ago, and there's no reason to start again.

Never going back to PMO.
 

Blondie

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Stay strong man, you're doing great. It seems you have some good contingency plans if things mentally start going to shit. A+ for you. And you're absolutely right about using porn to relieve stress, etc., and that it's just our minds playing tricks on us. If we fuck up, our stress levels will be 10x worse than they were before.

Stay the course you've set for yourself. You're really making progress.
 

logicprox

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38 days.

Today and tomorrow are going to be the really big final pushes for work. Two more nights of horrible sleep. That's not much to get through, honestly. And then things should get easier again.


I like this quote from easypeasy. "It’s fear of feeling future withdrawal pangs that create the pangs."

Nothing to fear. I don't use PMO.
 

logicprox

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39 days.

Woke up at night and started to M. No fantasy and no P. I stopped. It continues to surprise me that I have been able to stop the last couple of times this has happened. Also, I didn't even notice it last night, but I got hard without fantasy or P much easier than I could a few weeks ago. So although I would have preferred to not start to M, there is the nice little fringe benefit of seeing that it seems like my PIED is improving. I have a long way to go but it seems like something is happening.
 
Seems like everything is going well in your reboot. Thats commendable that you have the willpower to stop M and not let it escalate. No need to turn back now. Keep fighting!!
 

logicprox

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40 days.

And just like that the nights I was worried about are over. Will still be somewhat busy the next 4 days but not to the level of late nights and high level of stress that keep me from getting adequate sleep.

The big thing I need to do now is re-establish some routines and habits, and step up to the next level in adding in some new ones. I established some really healthy and positive routines when I started this 40 day run but I have let some of that slide this week as work got crazy (because I didn't have time). Not a big deal, but I need to get back on them immediately as I have found that high levels of structure greatly reduce my urges.

This is especially true because I am going from a very very high stress and long hours period straight into a period where I won't have very much going on at work at all. Dead time has historically been a trigger for me. Of course, I started this 40 days with a 7 day dopamine detox in a week when I was off of work, and it was not a problem, but I just need to make sure I don't let myself just sit around. I'm also considering doing another hardcore dopamine detox as soon as this busy time ends just to re-establish some things.

The other big thing that comes next is dealing with my mental health. I finally realized and acknowledged late last year that my social anxiety that I have been ignoring/pretending didn't exist my whole life is not only holding me back from what I want out of life but has also played a huge role in my dependence on PMO. A big goal this year is to finally deal with that. Work has gotten in the way the past month but no more procrastinating. I'm rebuilding my action plan for it this weekend and then it's time to start acting on it.

Porn only relieves the symptoms it creates, and what it created was a multiplier on my social anxiety. Porn gives me nothing but symptoms.
 

logicprox

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43 days.

Another wet dream. I feel like I need to start rewiring with women just to avoid these lol. Had 2 in the first 15 days, first one since then but always an unpleasant surprise.

Yesterday I started re-reading the Shyness and Social Anxiety Workbook, which I had intended to start performing the action plan from last month but work just took over everything. Today is the last crazy day at work though, so time to get back on the horse and change my damn life.
 
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first of all congratulations on 43 days. nice series. What I want to ask is, do you feel depressed, relapsed, regressed in the series after wet dreams?
 
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