I like your breakdown above, Particular!
Men's groups can seem supportive, and perhaps they can be. But there are draw backs, like, most put on a personae or an appearance of having it all together, or if someone lapsed, they may not be upfront about it.
They seem limited for what they can do. I think some put too much stock in them, thus hobbling themselves from doing it themselves for themselves.
Many groups out there subscribe to the 'disease-model' of addiction, and so just view themselves and each other as endlessly diseased or flawed, and never get out of, "I'm Joe, and I'm a [xyz-] addict".
This may sound cynical, but I've had only limited success from them. Anything that disempowers us should be avoided.
Men's groups can seem supportive, and perhaps they can be. But there are draw backs, like, most put on a personae or an appearance of having it all together, or if someone lapsed, they may not be upfront about it.
They seem limited for what they can do. I think some put too much stock in them, thus hobbling themselves from doing it themselves for themselves.
Many groups out there subscribe to the 'disease-model' of addiction, and so just view themselves and each other as endlessly diseased or flawed, and never get out of, "I'm Joe, and I'm a [xyz-] addict".
This may sound cynical, but I've had only limited success from them. Anything that disempowers us should be avoided.