I will make it -- Looking forward to taking my life back

First_step_thousand_miles

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Great to hear this @First_step_thousand_miles.

You're right about those cold showers. The last few days I've been alternating between taking completely cold showers or hot and then cold, because I realized that my body wasn't being cleaned as well with only soap and cold water. :cool:

Glad you're doing well brother.
Thank you my friend. Yeah 2-3min per day of cold showers is plenty to get all the benefits so keep it up. How's the exercise going for you my friend? Continuing the weight loss? Windy journey but it's worth it, I look at pics of myself a mere 6 months ago and there's a HUGE difference
 

Blondie

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It's going well. I've been sticking with the plan of losing weight while trying to keep any amount of muscle that I have, and I think it's working okay, although it's been a learning experience for sure. Weight loss as you say is a windy journey indeed, but I'm getting real close to being under 20% BF which is great. I'll feel pretty happy when I get down into the teens. I'm currently 194lbs., so I've lost 18 pounds so far.

Taking pictures is a great idea. I kind of stopped doing that a few months ago for whatever reason, I'll have to take a shot.

Best man, I'm glad things are going well for you.
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 451 no porn
Day 88 no MO
Day 31 cold shower

Wow, crossed 450 days no porn and nearly a month of no MO. Experienced random boners last night just sitting down at a meetup group event I went to. Also been having some today too, had a bit of a fantasy about this lady I talked to last night and took a while to fall asleep again lol. Think things are really progressing and things are really looking up. Rewiring is absolutely the next essential step, there have been so many markers now showing I'm ready to move on to this stage. I'm going on a vacation next week to Central America with a good buddy from college. We'll see how much I'll be able to communicate with the locals and stuff, but will shoot my shot at bars and maybe set up a dating app for the trip to see how that goes. More importantly, I'm going to be doing many more meetups to chat w/ women in real life once I return. Feeling very hopeful and life is looking up after some tough times
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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It's going well. I've been sticking with the plan of losing weight while trying to keep any amount of muscle that I have, and I think it's working okay, although it's been a learning experience for sure. Weight loss as you say is a windy journey indeed, but I'm getting real close to being under 20% BF which is great. I'll feel pretty happy when I get down into the teens. I'm currently 194lbs., so I've lost 18 pounds so far.

Taking pictures is a great idea. I kind of stopped doing that a few months ago for whatever reason, I'll have to take a shot.

Best man, I'm glad things are going well for you.
Absolutely, I also fell of the picture wagon but this is a good reminder to do that again. I've been measuring with my belt and there I'm trying to lose 2 buckles before starting to really bulk up. AWESOME to hear that you're at 194lb man! Sounds like you've been making rapid progress, keep up the great work. 100% reach out to me if you ever want to talk as I know you were going thru a rough patch some time back which I can totally understand given my own rocky periods in the past 1-1.5yrs. We got this brother, I'm excited for you to hit 2 years!
 

Blondie

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100% reach out to me if you ever want to talk as I know you were going thru a rough patch some time back which I can totally understand given my own rocky periods in the past 1-1.5yrs. We got this brother, I'm excited for you to hit 2 years!
Thanks brother, I really appreciate this. I will keep this in mind. I cannot wait to get past two years!

Bless you, and have a great trip to Central America. Damn, that sounds like a grand time.
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 453 no porn
Day 90 no MO
Day 33 cold shower

Officially made it 90 days no MO. I've taken a hard look and am recommitting to 180 days no MO! I know it's possible and each day feels like it's becoming easier to resist temptations which I guess means my brain is rewiring to not needing the constant hits of dopamine. The 6 days a week of exercise is helping along with cold showers which all release dopamine / endorphins in healthy ways. I'm sticking with these habits

Journaling I've fell off with, I think I'll keep that one for when I really need to get stuff off my chest. The other 'every-day' habit I'm considering is mindfulness meditation. Not sure I'll do it just yet but will think about it over the next few weeks

Edit: Had a boner just seeing a cute girl outside and imaging some vanilla stuff. More and more proof I'm ready for rewiring, let's get out there
 
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First_step_thousand_miles

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@First_step_thousand_miles, this is amazing stuff my man. Fucking awesome! I'm so happy you're doing this and you're staying committed to it, it really seems to be working.

Love you man.

Let the boners begin!
Thank you my friend, we are both getting there! You played no small part in convincing me to keep going on the no MO streak and it's paying off in a HUGE way. Love you too man
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 455 no porn
Day 92 no MO
Day 35 cold shower

Couple realizations & pieces of news, 2 good and 1 if not bad maybe disappointing (but I've got a takeaway):

1) Had a fantastic workout session today. Getting more comfortable slowly in my own skin which is pushing me to get out there with women. I'm going to keep shedding fat and putting on muscle

2) Had a strong boner just driving back from working out thinking about that girl I met last Friday. I was just picturing making out and petting (clothed) but got darn hard to it. Even after I stopped thinking about it the boner stayed around for a while! This was amazing because even in the reboot when I MO'd successfully I'd need constant stimulation to keep it hard (I didn't even need to touch my boy down below this time). More and more evidence showing that no MO is the best and fastest way to rewire, and that I'm READY to rewire to real women.

3) Now to the disappointing bit. I re-downloaded Tinder just for the vacation being VERY mindful of not staring or glorifying body parts or any of that. And I'm happy to say I stuck to that. However even as I was just swiping right I noticed my brain was getting a bit high and initially my heartbeat sped up a bit -- now mind you, it was WAY less than in previous times when this happened (much less strong) and I was able to calm it down easily and I was in control (did not even think about relapsing). That was great. What was a bit disappointing though was the unconscious reaction to it that I hoped would be gone by now. But Tinder truly is soft-core porn at this point, a ridiculous amount of girls are just standing in provocative poses in their bikinis for half their pictures. Also there are literal hookers on Tinder as I've realized, what the hell happened? Getting propositioned by some IG prostitute is the LAST thing I want or need right now

Takeaway for me is to delete Tinder (even though I just re downloaded for a vacation) as I don't want a porn substitute. I will download Hinge and Bumble though when I get to Day 180 (both are less provocative than Tinder) but going to stay off the apps until then. And of course, going to do my best to meet women in real life as well. Just hard to not be on at least 1-2 apps these days to meet women but I want to make sure my brain can handle it. I don't want to slip into seeing girls are toys but rather as human beings and being attracted to their entire selves (incl personalities) vs just their bodies.

I'm definitely healing as all the signs are pointing in the right direction -- it's just going a bit more slowly than maybe I initially thought but I'm getting over the hump as we speak. Onwards and upwards
 
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First_step_thousand_miles

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Well so I ended up MO'ing today. I wanted to get to Day 180 but had this weird spell of performance anxiety earlier as I was thinking about getting hard and I wasn't getting hard on command basically. And the more I did it the harder it was to get hard! So I kind of did it to test but the reason for the performance anxiety was because I wasn't in the moment. Even initially getting hard during MO I just reminded myself no pressure and things went fine -- not rock hard but was definitely hard.

@Blondie if you don't mind, have you ever experienced the performance anxiety after rebooting? I feel like I'm putting this crazy pressure on myself that I must perform which kind of scares me as. that's the surest way to not perform. I think the PIED is really resolving but I don't want to be left with worrying about performing after this. Any tips?

Anyway on the state of no MO -- I'm considering if I want to do another 90 day no MO thing again or maybe not. The issue is that if I'm just not doing any MO for a long period I get concerned about things not working and get in my head
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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I also came to a realization -- I had fantastic MO's for multiple periods through my reboot for like 1-2 weeks at at time. I remember even around Day 160-180ish I had a bunch. And then it fell off because I basically over-thought it / had 1 MO session where I wasn't rock hard and then that got into my head. That's why I started this 90+ day no Mo thing in the first place. Truth is, I wasn't going backwards (how could I if I wasn't watching porn and I wasn't MO'ing daily). I was just overthinking things! This same issue is what hurt my sleep a bunch of times in the past year, it's the same tape being played over again:

Some stuff to reduce overall stress / be in the moment / develop my self esteem and confidence:

1. Cold showers are great for overall stress levels

2. Mindfulness meditation is the #1 thing for staying in the moment so I'm strongly thinking of starting this (actually unrelated to this specific thing as I was thinking about starting it anyway to reduce my general stress levels and enjoy day to day life more in the moment, this is just one additional benefit)

3. Continuing to lift to build my self esteem

4. Much more cardio, I'm doing light cardio but going to turn up the heat to moderate intensity. Literally every person - whether no issues or some issues with ED - who did it mentioned their erections were way better

5. Kegels & reverse kegels -- again lot of great evidence and everyone I've read who did them mentioned it was HUGE for them. I have nothing to lose and it's a small time commitment, I think it will really help me with my confidence in the bedroom even if I don't 100% need it (and should only help regardless)

Thinking of whatever else I can do, this is all just stuff I'm considering blurted out on the page. The key is to raise my own confidence, cut down on stress and march forth. I'll get a more actionable game plan (beyond just avoiding porn which I will certainly continue to do) together over next few days
 
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Blondie

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Well so I ended up MO'ing today. I wanted to get to Day 180 but had this weird spell of performance anxiety earlier as I was thinking about getting hard and I wasn't getting hard on command basically. And the more I did it the harder it was to get hard! So I kind of did it to test but the reason for the performance anxiety was because I wasn't in the moment.
Hey @First_step_thousand_miles, 96 days of no MO is quite the achievement and no small feat. I have fallen myself into this trap of over analyzing this stuff and making it all the worse for it. It's so hard not to want to test it out and take it for a drive, and I think it's a normal response. Whatever you do, don't be hard on yourself, you did a great thing that definitely improved your situation. That's a whole lot of days.
@Blondie if you don't mind, have you ever experienced the performance anxiety after rebooting? I feel like I'm putting this crazy pressure on myself that I must perform which kind of scares me as. that's the surest way to not perform. I think the PIED is really resolving but I don't want to be left with worrying about performing after this. Any tips?
I've have without doubt experienced this many times, and my whole thought process has been slowing changing concerning it, and it's still changing to be honest. If you read some of my earlier stuff, you'll see that I was greatly concerned with everything going on down there, which is understandable where I was at. Now to be sure, I haven't changed my opinion about any of that, but I have cooled off on it some. My strong opinion is that no man, either single or married (even if he's hidden his porn habit for years, or even cheated) should ever feel ashamed or shamed for worrying about his junk. Let's be honest, it's one of the main things that defines us as men, and it's not a trifling matter if it's not working properly. However, as I've come further and further along this journey, I'm realizing that some of my "great concern" about it all was my addiction to porn and all the sexual baggage that brings. My obsession about it "working" all the fucking time, was because it "works" all the fucking time in porn videos, and we all know those dicks are about as real as the model's tits! It's all a fucking illusion: outtakes, camera angles, pills, drugs, and often unmentioned pain that the female models have to endure, which just pisses me off to be honest. But I digress and back to my point. Life isn't just about sex. Now don't get me wrong, sex is a gigantic factor of a good life, but it's not the only thing that matters. However, as I've come further along on this journey, I'm still getting use to the fact, that it's okay to not have sex constantly on your mind.

Emotionally, I've been a mess these last two weeks, and for about seven days, I didn't feel horny at all. I still noticed my lady and other attractive women, but sex just wasn't on my mind. It's insane to write that but it's actually true. Was I in a flatline or is this just normal Blondie in tune with his emotional state? Who knows, maybe this is what a real human feels like? But I honestly didn't care and didn't give it much thought, there were more important matters at hand. Anyway, on Saturday I woke up with a massive boner lifting the sheets, thus, I rolled over and it was game on with the missus, and the same happened on Sunday. My point is, my mind was elsewhere, and thus, my body responded accordingly, but when I woke up on Saturday, my body and mind were in alignment and it was game on, and I had no what ifs or fears about it, and was completely out of my head.

Needless to say, you're on the right track, just keep on pushing and knowing that you're getting better with each and every day. Everything you're doing will help in this regard, so keep on doing it and get out there and keep on meeting new women. Also, redefine for yourself what a "Rockstar" in bed actually is, with the foreknowledge that probably everything you think is "right" might be wrong, if not utterly fucked up and not helpful at all. Maybe a Rockstar in bed is a guy a who doesn't look at porn anymore, and whatever the fuck happens is 20x times better than anything in front of a computer screen. Maybe a Rockstar in bed is a man confident in himself and his recovery, and if a new woman doesn't like his current porn-free state, he politely kicks her ass out the door to find someone who does.

Love you man

Blondie
 
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First_step_thousand_miles

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Hey @First_step_thousand_miles, 96 days of no MO is quite the achievement and no small feat. I have fallen myself into this trap of over analyzing this stuff and making it all the worse for it. It's so hard not to want to test it out and take it for a drive, and I think it's a normal response. Whatever you do, don't be hard on yourself, you did a great thing that definitely improved your situation. That's a whole lot of days.

I've have without doubt experienced this many times, and my whole thought process has been slowing changing concerning it, and it's still changing to be honest. If you read some of my earlier stuff, you'll see that I was greatly concerned with everything going on down there, which is understandable where I was at. Now to be sure, I haven't changed my opinion about any of that, but I have cooled off on it some. My strong opinion is that no man, either single or married (even if he's hidden his porn habit for years, or even cheated) should ever feel ashamed or shamed for worrying about his junk. Let's be honest, it's one of the main things that defines us as men, and it's not a trifling matter if it's not working properly. However, as I've come further and further along this journey, I'm realizing that some of my "great concern" about it all was my addiction to porn and all the sexual baggage that brings. My obsession about it "working" all the fucking time, was because it "works" all the fucking time in porn videos, and we all know those dicks are about as real as the model's tits! It's all a fucking illusion: outtakes, camera angles, pills, drugs, and often unmentioned pain that the female models have to endure, which just pisses me off to be honest. But I digress and back to my point. Life isn't just about sex. Now don't get me wrong, sex is a gigantic factor of a good life, but it's not the only thing that matters. However, as I've come further along on this journey, I'm still getting use to the fact, that it's okay to not have sex constantly on your mind.

Emotionally, I've been a mess these last two weeks, and for about seven days, I didn't feel horny at all. I still noticed my lady and other attractive women, but sex just wasn't on my mind. It's insane to write that but it's actually true. Was I in a flatline or is this just normal Blondie in tune with his emotional state? Who knows, maybe this is what a real human feels like? But I honestly didn't care and didn't give it much thought, there were more important matters at hand. Anyway, on Saturday I woke up with a massive boner lifting the sheets, thus, I rolled over and it was game on with the missus, and the same happened on Sunday. My point is, my mind was elsewhere, and thus, my body responded accordingly, but when I woke up on Saturday, my body and mind were in alignment and it was game on, and I had no what ifs or fears about it, and was completely out of my head.

Needless to say, you're on the right track, just keep on pushing and knowing that you're getting better with each and every day. Everything you're doing will help in this regard, so keep on doing it and get out there and keep on meeting new women. Also, redefine for yourself what a "Rockstar" in bed actually is, with the foreknowledge that probably everything you think is "right" might be wrong, if not utterly fucked up and not helpful at all. Maybe a Rockstar in bed is a guy a who doesn't look at porn anymore, and whatever the fuck happens is 20x times better than anything in front of a computer screen. Maybe a Rockstar in bed is a man confident in himself and his recovery, and if a new woman doesn't like his current porn-free state, he politely kicks her ass out the door to find someone who does.

Love you man

Blondie
Love you bro, I know you're in the midst of going thru your own crap right now and cannot tell you how grateful I am for your thorough, thoughtful response. You're absolutely right that we just put too much pressure on ourselves for absolute perfection because that's what we've been trained to see (though we don't see the behind the scenes stuff at all). Reminds me a lot of the sleep challenges I had some time back -- obsessing over it is the wrong move entirely as that just makes it worse. The trick is just to relax, accept and just not care beyond a certain point. I'm really seeking to implement that here as well, your explanation aligns super well with this philosophy

For sure man, I'm very happy to have done a full 90+ day no PMO session. I'm probably going to MO some more now, might try to do another no MO series again but who knows. Either way, I'm ready to rewire so that's the goal. Thanks again man
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 461 no porn
Day 41 cold shower

Hey guys -- found some more clarity. I MO'd today again just keeping in mind staying in the moment and I was incredibly hard thinking about this woman from work. Pretty vanilla stuff as well. I'm now 100% sure at this point the porn problem regarding my penis is largely fixed (as far as abstaining and letting my brain filter that crap out) -- the next step is just rewiring. More importantly, I've noticed this in MO sessions where I just try to say in the moment, I get hard and stay hard but when I overthink it and step away from the moment that's when I have difficulties. Which means the key is to not overthink and stay with the flow

As such I've officially decided to add a new habit in addition to the no porn and cold showers -- and that's mindfulness meditation. I'm actually not doing this for porn, I was considering this weeks ago purely for lowering stress and staying in the MOMENT in daily life. I have this habit of overthinking stuff even while I'm doing enjoyable activities (not related to porn / sex or anything) vs. focusing on the activity itself (enjoying a great video game, enjoying spending time with a friend, etc). And daily life brings its own stresses that I want to be better positioned to handle (including the ability to dismiss negative thoughts). Anything beyond is just a bonus -- but I'm going to do it since the goal of this forum is to quit porn so that it unlocks new paths for us to become better men holistically. And irregardless, I've just had too many people either tell me or I've seen myself where meditation completely changed their lives -- I want to find that inner peace as well. Very excited for this next step, big shoutout to @SmokenMirrors on this as well (that man has had it right from Day 1!). Will likely start next week as I'm on vacation this week, though might preview it
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 464 no porn
Day 44 cold shower

Had another odd porn dream last night, weird stuff. Anyway, MO'd again very well last night to a normal girl with vanilla scenes. Everything is working well down there in terms of MO, I'm now certain that it's just about staying out of my head and in the moment. Otherwise vacation has been pretty relaxing and I'm looking forward to getting back home tomorrow. Very excited to start meditation next week and get back into swing of exercise. Looking forward to what's to come
 
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