I will make it -- Looking forward to taking my life back

First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 576 no porn
Day 16 no MO
Daily meditation
Daily cold showers

Had a sex dream last night (though I woke up before finishing). Also had a sex dream a few days ago I forgot to mention on here (again no finish haha so I suppose the streak continues). Wow, I feel like this happens more regularly whenever I start up no MO for a little while, I'm gonna take it as a positive sign since both dreams were more vanilla (no crazy positions, no hooker crap, not insane body types)

Also on the girl I was seeing, hung out with her again on Saturday. While I'm still not sure how far I'd like to take this, I really began to notice and appreciate the little things about her...like her smile and her laugh and her casual touches. All of it, I really feel like my feelings for real girls are coming back in a big way. I haven't felt like this in YEARS, maybe not since I was in my early 20s. These are the times when it makes me so glad I quit
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Just a reflection post today on urges after 1.5yrs -- they really do get much better. I virtually never get urges out of nowhere. I do still get them but only when there is a trigger (ex. reading a fantasy novel with a sex scene, seeing a really attractive girl outside, etc) and even then, the urges tend to be mild. Sometimes when they are strong they are like a 3 out of 10 but usually just a 1-2. When I first started, the urges were 8+ out of 10. Now if I still trigger myself too much by staring at pictures, googling more crap, etc then the urges do get stronger than that but if I control myself it's pretty minimal

Writing this down for both myself and any others reading this earlier in the journey. It really does get easier and there are results, it just takes a while and it's a VERY windy path -- progress is not linear.

All in all, there are days in which I miss the sheer uninhibited nature of porn and exploring any fantasy I want at any possible time with no restrictions -- however, it's a sweet poison that I know will kill me and lead to a life of depression. These days are pretty uncommon, most of the time I just go about my life. I read recently that over 90% of guys use porn...if you're one of the few that actually quits you're breathing rare air here. Pair that with constant self improvement and I think there's something really great out there for all of us. God bless everyone here
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 579 no porn
Day 19 no MO
Daily meditation
Daily cold showers

Wanted to document some stuff. Had another sex dream last night though it was more porn-like. Doesn't really matter, these vestiges are standing on their last legs and are less common over time. Crazy to have 3 sex dreams less than 3 weeks after stopping MO.

Other thing I remember reading from a reboot story a while back was that as you do the reboot it's like peeling back the layers of an onion with regards to porn history. When I recall some of the more recent porn material (right before my reboot) I feel very little, if anything. When I was thinking of the first porn video I ever used (when I was 18), I definitely got more excited to it. That said, not going to make that a habit as I don't want to reactivate porn pathways! But it's true that our tastes become more vanilla and normal as we continue the reboot which is nice

Anyway, I'm excited to get to 100 days no MO. After that the main milestone is 2yrs porn free on May 15th, 2024. Onwards
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 577 no porn
Day 27 no MO
Daily meditation
Daily cold showers

Doing that long awaited goals post reflecting on my 2023 goals and that 2024 goals will be. Lets get to it, I'll keep it brief


How did I do on my 2023 goals?

1. Continue staying away from porn and rebooting -- There were some rough moments and some occasional peeking, but I've gotten a passing grade here. I have not masturbated to porn once since starting this reboot and my PIED is resolving! Using 25mg Viagra I'm able to have sex in multiple positions -- the goal is to wean down (as I already have from 50mg) to nothing over time

2. Get in much better shape (lose 20lb of fat & recomp) -- Solid progress, but haven't quite gotten to where I want to be. Did a body scanner and my gym, I'm 160lb today at 22% BF

3. Date again -- Did some of it this year, but not as much as I'd like. Some of it was also planned in staying off the apps but I'd like to get that going again

4. Learn to cook for real -- Learned 3 recipes. Not too bad, but I'd like to build up to 8-10 over time

5. Make more friends and deepen existing friendships -- Decent score here, definitely hung out with a lot of friends though I can do a better job of staying in touch

7. Doing a side project regarding work that I've been working on for 5yrs, want to complete it -- Success!

8. Travel a hell of a lot -- Success!

Overall, I've accomplished a few goals and made significant progress on the rest. Not a 10/10 success but enough that this year has seen some good forward momentum. I also now know which goals are really important and which are less so, onwards to 2024 goals

What are my goals in 2024?

1. Continue rebooting and staying away from porn to get to 2yrs mark. Never look back

2. Lose 12-15lb of fat and gain 15-20lb of muscle. Planning on 3-4 months of recomp & losing the fat before starting the long awaited bulk. Going to need to get better about cardio, avoid injuries in lifting, and get stricter on my diet. I'm 22% BF right now, aiming for 15%

3. Date a lot more. Ideally find a long term relationship since I know that's what I want now

4. Become a better cook

5. Focus on the friendships that matter to me

6. Find my next job. Time to move on

There are other things I'd like to do, but these are the things that really matter. I'm excited for 2024!
 
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First_step_thousand_miles

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I'm liking this list brother, many good things here. Sorry I haven't been on here as much as of late, I was busy with school and now I'm traveling.

May we crush our 2024 goals!

Love you.
All good brother, I know things get busy around this time of year. Enjoy your travels!

I want to hear about your 2024 goals too man (if you're open to sharing!), there are big things in store for us in 2024! Love you too
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 581 no porn
Day 31 no MO
Daily meditation
Daily cold showers

Crossed 1 month of no MO. Honestly wasn't very hard this time around, I've felt mild urges a few times but easily suppressed. Had another wet dream of sorts last night, though I just felt so many emotions in the dream beyond pure lust...felt like having real feelings again. I'm experienced that with this girl I've been seeing so that's been nice to see it pop up in other places, though probably going to end things soon with her

Other thing I'll mention which is HUUUUUUUGE -- I no longer have this ridiculous urge to stare at really attractive girls. I realize now it was just my brain trying to substitute for porn when I would see a thick girl to just stare (even though I knew it was creepy, it was like an addiction that I was trying to kick and kick). Was at the gym yesterday with several girls like that but I glanced and then looked away -- there was no compulsion to just keep staring! I've complained about this many times on my reboot page, seems it just took time -- over 1.5yrs to be precise! Nice to be able to interact with girls more normally now. Porn really does warp us in strange ways. Very glad to say that after starting my journey in mid-2023, there have been so many markers of progress in 2024

Next year I'm planning on doing a lot of cardio to achieve my body fat goals (22% BF right now, aiming for 15% by end of March -- pretty aggressive but doable if I work hard), which is also great for erections so that's a nice bonus. In a few months I'll likely also start kegels just to really maximize my sexual function -- though at the end of the day quitting porn and rewiring is like 80-90% of it. Just trying to squeeze out the last piece

Lastly, planning to go on many more dates in 2024. Just getting down from high-20s BF% to low-20s% has made a big difference in my self esteem, I can't wait to get down to mid-teens% while putting on mass. Girls have certainly noticed so far, and I can't wait to keep pushing on this goal. Exciting things in store!
 
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SmokenMirrors

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Other thing I'll mention which is HUUUUUUUGE -- I no longer have this ridiculous urge to stare at really attractive girls. I realize now it was just my brain trying to substitute for porn when I would see a thick girl to just stare (even though I knew it was creepy, it was like an addiction that I was trying to kick and kick). Was at the gym yesterday with several girls like that but I glanced and then looked away -- there was no compulsion to just keep staring! I've complained about this many times on my reboot page, seems it just took time -- over 1.5yrs to be precise! Nice to be able to interact with girls more normally now. Porn really does warp us in strange ways. Very glad to say that after starting my journey in mid-2023, there have been so many markers of progress in 2024
Win win win win WIN! Love you bro
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 586 no porn
Daily meditation
Daily cold showers

Ended up MO'ing last night, just couldn't get to sleep. Also this morning. All in all it was decent (much better last night) -- I think regular cardio (been dabbling this past week, will start a structured regiment next week) and kegels (will probably start this in a few months, it's the last thing I want to add after quitting porn, starting weight lifting again, and starting cardio) will do the trick alongside staying away from porn. I'm very excited, still pretty happy that last time I had sex all I needed was 25mg of Viagra (instead of the usual 50mg dose) and I had sex just fine -- I wasn't rock hard as much as I'd like but just the the fact there was no issues with penetration including a condom was awesome progress. I genuinely think I can ascend to the final stages of healing this year -- it's gonna be time + cardio + maybe kegels (and regular weights / meditation / cold showers for stress). Holistically going to get to a much better place this year.

Late towards end of the first month of no MO started getting way more horny and there have been some porn flashes sometimes that I now am being more diligent on shutting down. It's a fairly mild annoyance vs. a deep craving but even so. Hard to do no MO for super long! I'm reconsidering whether I want to continue abstaining from MO or not, more of a personal questions than something that needs to happen. Anyway just rambling some thoughts out
 
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First_step_thousand_miles

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Double post but I felt like reflecting on some societal stuff that also pertains to action items for me & maybe for many others. The world has shifted in just the past 10-15yrs with the rise of social media to to the point where expectations of people have skyrocketed while reality hasn't necessarily changed. I'm sure you are familiar with the formula Happiness = Reality - Expectations. As Charlie Munger says, the secret to a happy life is low expectations.

Yet with the internet, we see everything that was hidden to us in the past....the fancy cars, the beautiful women, the amazing destinations, the private jets, etc. Before you used to just see people in your town and even then not be privy to most of what went on behind the scenes, now with social media we've turbo-charged this as we see EVERYTHING that we are missing and everything we think we deserve. Comparison truly is the thief of joy and now instead of comparing to your 100 people you see on there regular you are comparing against billions of people....and you are comparing against their highlight reel! It might not even be reel, who has the perfect relationship at all times?

That's why I quit most social media. All I have is Facebook and LinkedIn. Linkedin isn't an issue really because it doesn't have that much to compare against, Facebook I noticed getting deeper into reels recently and am working to cut myself off. Sometimes I also Reddit, but both of these actions I notice make me unhappier and discontent after using them. So I need to stop both.

The other thing is I do read a lot of fiction. Before I used to compare my life guys with women in porn or social media and that was not a great feeling...I suppose I was living vicariously through them which is no way to actually live. Now I've stopped that, I still do read a bunch of fiction & watch anime...I feel like taking it to excess it's maybe raised my expectations to unhealthy levels. In anime esp., there's always some super attractive hot girl who's virgin and absolutely adores the MC with virtually no flaws. Real women aren't like that...this is an idealized version of things. I feel like anime is to guys what Disney is to younger girls / women where there's a perfect Prince Charming out there.

I don't think the fiction reading is a problem as long as I'm careful about the material and also don't take it to excess, which means spending more time around REAL people and real women vs. sitting around all day. My social skills definitely atrophy when I'm not regularly hanging out with people, and that's no way to really live or get good with actual women. So while it's not a devastating behavior like heavy porn use or some other big addiction, it's incrementally something I'd be better off without or at least consuming in much lower quantities.

All in all, this year I'm going to really cut down on anime, cut down on spending time alone (watching TV, reading) and instead find more ways to be around people socially. I've got a decent base to build from so I'm not daunted but I need to be far more proactive. It's taken a while to really come to this realization but it's a must for the future I want. Thankfully my interest in anime has dropped off a lot in 2023 vs. prior years (in a big way because there's no longer any porn attached to it that I'd masturbate to later) and even in reading it's come down somewhat as I replace it with podcasting where I can at least walk around & get exercise. It's the next step
 

Blondie

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Hey @First_step_thousand_miles, I hope you had a great new years!
Double post but I felt like reflecting on some societal stuff that also pertains to action items for me & maybe for many others. The world has shifted in just the past 10-15yrs with the rise of social media to to the point where expectations of people have skyrocketed while reality hasn't necessarily changed. I'm sure you are familiar with the formula Happiness = Reality - Expectations. As Charlie Munger says, the secret to a happy life is low expectations.
I love this quote man. I feel like I'm generally a man who has low expectations (at least for people) and this does cause me to be happier in those moments, however, whenever I do start setting myself up with false expectations of this or that, that same happiness can sudden come crashing down to very low levels. I guess this always comes back to being content with what you have before you. I know for myself, I get so caught up in "improving" that I often lose the forest for the trees, and can never just breathe and be content. It's something I've been thinking about a lot recently.
Yet with the internet, we see everything that was hidden to us in the past....the fancy cars, the beautiful women, the amazing destinations, the private jets, etc. Before you used to just see people in your town and even then not be privy to most of what went on behind the scenes, now with social media we've turbo-charged this as we see EVERYTHING that we are missing and everything we think we deserve. Comparison truly is the thief of joy and now instead of comparing to your 100 people you see on there regular you are comparing against billions of people....and you are comparing against their highlight reel! It might not even be reel, who has the perfect relationship at all times?
This!

I sometimes wonder if we'll ever get use to this new world reality, if we were even "designed" or by evolution to be able to handle it. We used to live in small villages, and hardly would see anymore people in our entire lives than 150 or so. Obviously, we would could still fall into the trap of comparing, but it would be on such a small scale compared to today, that it's hardly worth mentioning. But you're right, with social media, much less the technology changes over the last 100 years or so, we see with "global eyes" now and have a hard time being content in this new global village. Plus, with AI and everything else coming, it is hard to see where we're going with all of this in the coming future.
That's why I quit most social media. All I have is Facebook and LinkedIn. Linkedin isn't an issue really because it doesn't have that much to compare against, Facebook I noticed getting deeper into reels recently and am working to cut myself off. Sometimes I also Reddit, but both of these actions I notice make me unhappier and discontent after using them. So I need to stop both.
I too have Facebook but hardly use it. I found myself getting lost in everyone's post (real or not!) and often found myself comparing their lives to mine. Of course, it's not all bad, it's nice to catch up with family etc. but in general, I don't hang at that waterhole very much.

The other thing is I do read a lot of fiction. Before I used to compare my life guys with women in porn or social media and that was not a great feeling...I suppose I was living vicariously through them which is no way to actually live. Now I've stopped that, I still do read a bunch of fiction & watch anime...I feel like taking it to excess it's maybe raised my expectations to unhealthy levels. In anime esp., there's always some super attractive hot girl who's virgin and absolutely adores the MC with virtually no flaws. Real women aren't like that...this is an idealized version of things. I feel like anime is to guys what Disney is to younger girls / women where there's a perfect Prince Charming out there.

I don't think the fiction reading is a problem as long as I'm careful about the material and also don't take it to excess, which means spending more time around REAL people and real women vs. sitting around all day. My social skills definitely atrophy when I'm not regularly hanging out with people, and that's no way to really live or get good with actual women. So while it's not a devastating behavior like heavy porn use or some other big addiction, it's incrementally something I'd be better off without or at least consuming in much lower quantities.
I can see how his could be a problem, but obviously, still better than porn. I know what you mean by living vicariously through someone though, and that is something to watch out for. You could always read Pride and Prejudice again, that's always a classic! :cool:
All in all, this year I'm going to really cut down on anime, cut down on spending time alone (watching TV, reading) and instead find more ways to be around people socially.
This has really been what has hit me the most on my trip during the holidays, that is, my need and desire for true friendships. It's something I've struggled with for a long time now, but something I want to remedy. This semester I'll will be working more on trying to build relationships.

Best man, keep killing it.
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Day 590 no porn
Daily meditation
Daily cold showers

MO'd last night and today, honestly some really fantastic MO's just imaging regular sex positions with this girl I met (Gw). I feel like I'm finally turned on by the things a man should be turned on by vs. the unnatural stuff that porn morphs our tastes into. Exciting stuff
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Hey @First_step_thousand_miles, I hope you had a great new years!

I love this quote man. I feel like I'm generally a man who has low expectations (at least for people) and this does cause me to be happier in those moments, however, whenever I do start setting myself up with false expectations of this or that, that same happiness can sudden come crashing down to very low levels. I guess this always comes back to being content with what you have before you. I know for myself, I get so caught up in "improving" that I often lose the forest for the trees, and can never just breathe and be content. It's something I've been thinking about a lot recently.
Yeah in some ways humans are like sharks, must always keep moving. It's a hard balance between progress and contentment, though maybe progress is contentment? In some area of your life, this will shift over time. Career progress matters a lot more from 22-65 but after that is that really what we should work on? Maybe it's other things
This!

I sometimes wonder if we'll ever get use to this new world reality, if we were even "designed" or by evolution to be able to handle it. We used to live in small villages, and hardly would see anymore people in our entire lives than 150 or so. Obviously, we would could still fall into the trap of comparing, but it would be on such a small scale compared to today, that it's hardly worth mentioning. But you're right, with social media, much less the technology changes over the last 100 years or so, we see with "global eyes" now and have a hard time being content in this new global village. Plus, with AI and everything else coming, it is hard to see where we're going with all of this in the coming future.
Yeah I'll tell you man, meditation has saved my life in this respect. I've been slacking on proper meditation lately (doing it lying down and not putting 100% into it, only doing it for 10min) and it's showing as my mental state shifts back to one of anxiety. I'm going back to doing the proper practices (sitting down, 15-20min) today. Highly recommend

I too have Facebook but hardly use it. I found myself getting lost in everyone's post (real or not!) and often found myself comparing their lives to mine. Of course, it's not all bad, it's nice to catch up with family etc. but in general, I don't hang at that waterhole very much.


I can see how his could be a problem, but obviously, still better than porn. I know what you mean by living vicariously through someone though, and that is something to watch out for. You could always read Pride and Prejudice again, that's always a classic! :cool:
Haha always a great tale! Yeah it's good to avoid social media man, it adds nothing to our life (beyond messaging and video calling but that's not really social media). The struggle is what to do when you've got time and just your phone (i.e. doctor office visits, waiting at the airport, etc). Gotta figure out something else to occupy that time
This has really been what has hit me the most on my trip during the holidays, that is, my need and desire for true friendships. It's something I've struggled with for a long time now, but something I want to remedy. This semester I'll will be working more on trying to build relationships.

Best man, keep killing it.
I love that man, true long lasting friendships are priceless. Definitely work on those, they'll enrich you in big ways. The trick is to STAY in touch and nurture these friendships over the LT vs. focusing on making many, short lasting friendships (at least my experience as an introvert haha)
 

First_step_thousand_miles

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Quick rant -- recently looked at the stats for how many men use porn, and it's complete BS how much variance there is. Some say only 40% of men have used it in the past month, while others say >90%. I KNOW it's the latter (at least for men 30 or younger) because there isn't a single adult male I know in real life who doesn't use it (aside from myself because of the reboot lol). We know PIED afflicts some ~40% of men under 40 as of the latest studies...so that's how we know that 40% porn usage stat is wrong because that would imply literally every man who uses porn has PIED which is patently false.

I wonder who these studies saying 40%< are trying to fool...we need to acknowledge how widespread it really is to fix the problem. It's also annoying how the media treats porn as just one of many things that are hurting men like video games, not going to college, social media, etc....yes all of those can be negative but I think porn is literally the worst (other than hard drugs of course) and deserves more attention. The sad thing is women couldn't care less either, any girl who even knows you use porn just loses interest. I've seen it happen in friend groups where a friend jokes around about that and women just lose all interest and express disgust. I guess it's the sort of thing no one really wants to campaign on, god bless Gary and Gabe and Noah for being outspoken about it. They don't get nearly the amount of praise they should, love you guys
 
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