Patrick's Journal: A gay guy's imperfect reboot

marsturm

Active Member
Thanks for your support, C_K. I've just found out about emergency.nofap.com, and it's worth checking out.

We can be free of this, for good. My biggest help right now is

waiting, waiting, waiting, until the urges pass
seeing through the illusion: I'm always, always home and cared for
going to emergency.nofap.com and the Nation
asking my friends how they could support me
thinking about how good I'll feel when I'm at 90 days (i.e. end of September)
remembering that I've never really known what it's like to be with another human being without the P fog
remembering that I've had a 60 f*ing awesome day streak 8)

I'm happy for you, you're on the right track, too ;) Take care and stay strong. Blessings.
 
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notgivinup

Guest
Hey Patrick....just read your journal and wanted to encourage you. I'm glad you found emergency.nofap.com. it really is a great tool.

i clicked on it the other day....and just what I needed came on the screen. it said, "Don't be stupid. Do your work."

I said to myself...yep, that's just what I need right now. Stop being stupid. and I got back to work.

You can do this....I've heard others say this....but I know I can say it for sure, and it''s this: If I can do it, anyone can do it.

You can do this...just a day at a time...and walking away from pmo, and turning to other things...and to people.

I hope you have a great weekend.

Thanks,
NGU
 
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ianmac

Guest
Patrick said:
I've just found out about emergency.nofap.com, and it's worth checking out.

Excellent resource, Patrick.

Been through almost a week's worth of chaser effect.  Know how it feels.  It will pass.  Each cycle gets a bit weaker.

I'm sort of glad we get it.  If there were no consequences to using porn, we'd keep doing it forever.  I'm grateful for it, even though it's not pleasant to resist.  It gets us to do our job.

Ian
 

marsturm

Active Member
Thanks for your support, guys, really appreciated :) I just broke my "small" record of 39 days no PMO. My last relapse happened at that time. I'm so grateful for not having acted out. My #1 rule is: WAIT! Happy to be here with you all. Cheers. Still clean and happy. I pray it stays that way.
 
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Leon

Guest
Patrick said:
Thanks for your support, guys, really appreciated :) I just broke my "small" record of 39 days no PMO. My last relapse happened at that time. I'm so grateful for not having acted out. My #1 rule is: WAIT! Happy to be here with you all. Cheers. Still clean and happy. I pray it stays that way.

Hi, Patrick. You are proving that you can indeed do this. That, my friend, is precisely it, wait. It's just like that quote I provided for you above, that there's a space between stimulus (trigger/urge) and response- and in that space is precisely our key to freedom from this thing.

So proud of you, man.
 

marsturm

Active Member
Thanks, Leon. Yay, 40 days! 2/3 of my 60 day goal and almost 50% of my 90 day goal. I pray to have the continuous willingness to WAIT and LET GO if the urges come. Everybody stay strong. PMO is not an option. Life is awesome without P. Blessings, love, and a happy day for everyone.
 

marsturm

Active Member
I'm close to 44 days. Wow! I need to stay vigilant. PMO is not an option. I can feel that my life is wonderful without P. I'm so grateful and happy that I don't want to watch this sh*t anymore. Got triggered today at the railway station. Never mind. I'm letting it go. Stay strong, guys. Much love.
 

savingmysoul

Active Member
Hang in there Patrick - you can do this.  YOU have the strength inside you, find it, grab it - and you can experience the freedom.  It is wonderful, the journey is so worth it.

Walk with me.

SMS
 

marsturm

Active Member
Hey guys, I just beat my previous best of 60 days - yahoo!! My next goal is 90 days. I only masturbated once, no PMO involved. I felt very strong urges around three times, and I felt a swing to other addictions, e.g. sugar, eating more than is good for me, and hitting dopamine highs by watching horror flicks. Still, I'm proud of myself because my main goal was to beat my last record. The need to PMO has diminished and I've been flatlining for ages...at least that's what it feels like. Thanks for hanging in there with me, guys. Everybody stay strong. I'm off setting up a new tracker.
 
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Leon

Guest
Congratulations, Patrick! I'm so proud of you!

Keep it up, you can do this! More and more it will become a thing of the past.

Your other tendencies will also be conquered one by one as you learn new coping skills.

Skies the limit, brother- excited about your new goal.
 

marsturm

Active Member
Thank you so much, Leon, it's great to have a friend like you by my side. Let's conquer the beast (which is a paper tiger anyway)!
 

marsturm

Active Member
Update after 69 days PMO free:

Hey Nation, I'm happy to say that I beat my last record of 60 days no PMO. The challenges are still here, though: How to find a guy to rewire with and not sparking up the dopamine high at the same time.

Well, first of all I'm really, really grateful that I haven't had to watch P since the end of June. I can assure you that I don't feel an inch of having missed out, just pure gratefulness that my conscience has risen above the addiction.

I only M'd twice, no P involved, no pixels involved. My long-term goal is to quit M as well.

Second challenge: Dope highs. I've been watching a lot of horror flicks lately, something I also used to do when I was a teen, a relic from the old days... Still, I have to admit that this is way less harmful than P. I see it as a substitute, like someone who has been on heroine and is glad that they only smoke cigarettes now. I know I'm not 100% willing to give up dope highs through horror immersion, and I'm 110% willing to not watch P anymore. That's the deal right now, folks.

Yesterday, I logged on to a gay dating site, and I had my first live date this afternoon. I'm proud of myself that I rose to the occasion and was bold enough to get away from pixeltown. The man I met isn't going to be my rewiring partner, and the socialness did me good. It's much less intimidating than I thought. Just a conversation between 2 human beings, no casual sex involved. On the other hand: The dating site has a lot of P ads which I can easily ignore, they almost bore me or I have to laugh at them (used to be different a while ago:)

So I really need to focus and take care that my spending time on this site leads to REAL HUMAN CONTACT and hopefully a rewiring partner or partners. This feels like a new life to me.

Take care, Nation, stay strong and WAIT until the urges pass. They are just illusions. Special thanks to all the brave warriors who have been fighting alongside me.

 
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Leon

Guest
So proud of you, Patrick. You are awesome, being 9 days above your last best. Time for a new best, or rather, time for the rest of your life to be porn free.

My previous best used to be something like 52 days, that was before RN. Then you can follow my streaks from there on my signature, but it does feel good to go beyond your previous limitations.

You nailed it on the head- just wait out the urges. Prove to yourself that you can do this, that you're in control, and not the addiction.

Best wishes.
 

marsturm

Active Member
73 days PMO free:

As I told you guys I signed up on a gay dating site to find rewiring partners. In the last 5 days I had three (!) real live dates with men. The first was an encounter in a caf? which was socially successful; I realised that talking to a potential partner face to face doesn't kill me. The second was a hook up. I did well because I orgasmed with a real man, not pixels. I had some unpleasant ED problems, but we were both cool about it. No penetrating possible. Without the knowledge I have from this site, I would have been devastated. The third was a lunch date that strengthened my social skills.

What I find rather troublesome is the dopamine surge I still get while browsing the dating site for potential rewiring partners. I'm often close to the edge of feeling super-excited as the activity reminds me of searching out my favourite P.

One possible step to escape this would be to not log on anymore. But I'm not willing to relinquish the opportunity to focus on meeting men in real life. This is fun. Once you meet them in person, a whole new world opens up. My life has become more colorful in the last few days, just knowing that a normal relationship might be beckoning. I can feel that this is my brain rewiring to adequate sexual and relational connections.

All I want right now is to stay off P and let go of the sadness, desperation, and shame that I felt while in the grip of those terrible, terrible PMO sessions, for hours on end, aggravating my erectile problems.

My current strategy is: Focus on meeting real men for rewiring, monitor my ability to live with the dope rushes while connecting with them on the internet, be patient with myself, trust that my inner wisdom will tell me the best way to move forward, acknowledge myself for the brave actions I have taken to venture out into life and find rewiring partners as I don't have a BF yet, develop the willingness to let go of the dating site if I have the feeling that my rebooting process is heavily undermined through it, love myself.

Hang in there, guys, and stay strong. Progress not perfection. Really proud to be here with you.

 
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Leon

Guest
Hi, Patrick. Glad that you're still PMO free, and that you're making efforts to reconnect with real life.

As real sex is emotionally (if not spiritually) based, I'd develop that aspect before engaging in sex. That's my opinion however.

One important thing I'd like to say is- it seems that going through these dating sites may be reactivating (resensitizing) old neural pathways, hence the familiar feelings. This may work against you. If at all possible, find other venues for meeting people, like social settings, night clubs, or art shows (that just came to me). But, since you're getting away from pixelized artificial sex, maybe going through the 'menu' in pixel-land is not a good idea.

Love you, and as usual am so proud of your progress.
 

marsturm

Active Member
78 days PMO free, gay dating site next phase, the downside of "seeking and searching, anxiety" while looking for rewiring partners:

I'm really happy that I'm at 78 days. When I bought my first computer roughly 3 years ago, I didn't know I'd be winding down Addiction Rd. I remember being super-excited that I'd be able to check out anything I wanted to watch (go figure!) Of course, The Nation or YBOP were inexistent for me. So this has been my longest streak since having access to the internet at home. Yay!

There are some things I must reconsider with the dating site: Although I believe that it is reasonable and fine to look for a rewiring partner, there are definite downsides to seeking them out on a screen. As Gary Wilson writes in Your Brain on Porn, dopamine fires up for certain emotions and stimuli. Two of these, for me, are worth looking at more closely, i.e. "anxiety" and "seeking and searching."

Seeking and searching: I know now that I must have a strict set of rules when I log on to the dating site. I must know beforehand what I want to do. Currently, my plan is as follows: I log on to the site and immediately go to my message centre. The message centre doesn't trigger dopamine in me in an unhealthy way. My goal is to have real dates with real men, not pixels. Today, I don't feel that I'm able to handle any pixel-pictures. Maybe tomorrow or so I can check who visited my profile; if there's anybody who counts as a rewiring partner, I will shoot them a message that just says "I would like to date you etc." No chatting or staying longer than I need to. The third step would be to actively seek out guys. This is the hardest for me because it strongly triggers dopamine and reminds me very much of seeking and searching novelty porn.

Anxiety: This is strongly linked to my fetish of finding young men attractive and obsessing about them. Sometimes I can't differentiate between a healthy side of my sexuality (it's OK to find younger men attractive) and an addictive side (exploitation and glorification of youth in porn). They are still very much entwined. I guess this will resolve itself the more I stay away from porn and dopamine surges.

You might ask yourself why I don't let it all go completely - no dating site, no worries. Well, there are three reasons for me to stay in this game. First, I've tried other ways of finding rewiring partners, and it's V E R Y tedious and doesn't lead anywhere. Clubs, bars, and art exhibitions just aren't my thing. Through the dating site, I've had 6 (!) real live dates within a week - very good for re-learning social skills, overcoming isolation, and having pure fun just sitting with a human being over coffee.  Secondly, I don't have a BF. I guess if I had one, it would be easier to focus on him as my rewiring partner. Thirdly, I can feel that it is so, so important for me to reconnect to my natural, healthy sexuality. I'm really, really tired of missing out. I don't know for sure but I guess that straight people statistically also have a higher chance of meeting mates just by the power of numbers.

If I think of quitting the dating site, I feel that I'm relinquishing a chance to meet rewiring partners. This may change, of course, but right now this is how I will proceed. My main goal, of course, is to stay PMO free and not reinforce the neural pathways by unnecessary dopamine surges.

Take care everybody and thanks for reading. I'm a proud member of the Nation.
 

Jason

Member
Hello Patrick,

I just wanted to say hello and thank you for your kind words.  Together we will overcome these addictions or as you would say 'The illusion of them that resides in our minds."  Jason 
 

marsturm

Active Member
90 days PMO free!!!! Yay! I'm so happy and proud. I still get dope fixes from horror movies and my gay dating site, but NOTHING COMPARED TO THOSE AWFUL ENDLESS ENDLESS ENDLESS PMO SESSIONS!!!! I'm a proud member of the Nation. Take care, dudes.
 
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