Second try

[noises1990]

Congrats man! I really am happy for you seeing your progress really gives me a boost of confidence! Stay strong!

 

[dwenjang1218]

Day 42 no PMO:

Wuts up guys?
It's been like 5 days since I last updated.
I was out camping for 2 nights with my friends, so I didn't have the time.
I think I've just entered my low-libido phase,
but there's really not much difference anymore.
Morning wood was 50% today (surprisingly low for me), no urges so far, mood is good, I'm very social.

I've been thinking hard about what my plans are from now on.
I believe I am almost completely unwired, so my next step would be to test myself by MO'ing.
I've read up on YBOP on how to perform this experiment.
I'm going to wait till the end of May before doing this, just to make sure.

Here's a rough draft of my plan:

Masturbation Experiment
Purpose: To see how much I have unwired, and see how my response to sexual stimuli has changed during reboot.
Hypothesis: If I have unwired completely, I will feel that it is easy to keep pornographic images out of my mind while MO'ing,
                    feel absolutely fantastic during orgasm, and have minimum Chaser Effect on the following days.
Procedure: 1. Attempt to MO with pure physical stimuli alone, with no porn or sexual imagination.
                  2. Take notes on the difficulty of keeping sexual images out of my mind,
                      the intensity of the orgasm, and the presence of Chaser Effect on the following days.

I gotta go, something just came up and gotta leave the house.
I would appreciate it if you guys can give me tips on this experiment.
See ya!

 

[dwenjang1218]

Day 46 no PMO:

Here are my observations for this week.
There seem to be no "phases" anymore (either that or phases have become longer);
my libido has stabilized and it stays on the high side.
My erections feel like 95% consistently, although morning wood is not as high.
I still haven't had a single wet dream, and my balls still ache.

I need a release. I need a girl.
I've almost finished unwiring, but I don't have any means to go to the next chapter: "re-wiring"
I'm only able to complete 50% of the reboot right now.
I wish I had a car and my own apartment close to where everyone else lives,
so I don't have to travel 1 hour to interact with friends and I can invite some girls over.

If I can't get a sexual relationship with a girl in the next month,
I'm probably going to start masturbating again. But no porn, of course.

 

[SETI]

Here's a rough draft of my plan:

Masturbation Experiment
Purpose: To see how much I have unwired, and see how my response to sexual stimuli has changed during reboot.
Hypothesis: If I have unwired completely, I will feel that it is easy to keep pornographic images out of my mind while MO'ing,
                    feel absolutely fantastic during orgasm, and have minimum Chaser Effect on the following days.
Procedure: 1. Attempt to MO with pure physical stimuli alone, with no porn or sexual imagination.
                  2. Take notes on the difficulty of keeping sexual images out of my mind,
                      the intensity of the orgasm, and the presence of Chaser Effect on the following days.

I gotta go, something just came up and gotta leave the house.
I would appreciate it if you guys can give me tips on this experiment.
See ya!

That's how I would do the test. Personally, I added how long I will wait (at least) until my next test. I don't want to fall into any old habits by mistake.

 

[Shaft]

Happy to hear you see the improvements. Yes, I agree with you on that whole mastrbation thing. I guess, it is a good thing to release that load once a week or once in two weeks or so. I would also recommend try to masturbate in different fashion than most of us used to do (jacking off all all over the body, then taking a tissue to clean everything up). I will personally try to do it in a shower or in a pose in which I would have a real intercourse with a girl. Habits make sense too.

 

[dwenjang1218]

That's how I would do the test. Personally, I added how long I will wait (at least) until my next test. I don't want to fall into any old habits by mistake.

True that.
I guess I'll give it a 1 week term before doing another experiment.

 

[dwenjang1218]

Happy to hear you see the improvements. Yes, I agree with you on that whole mastrbation thing. I guess, it is a good thing to release that load once a week or once in two weeks or so. I would also recommend try to masturbate in different fashion than most of us used to do (jacking off all all over the body, then taking a tissue to clean everything up). I will personally try to do it in a shower or in a pose in which I would have a real intercourse with a girl. Habits make sense too.

Yeah, I thought it would be possible to quit masturbation once and for all,
but I see that there's really no point if you don't have a gf.
And yeah trying different poses makes sense to me as well.

 

[dwenjang1218]

I have some exciting news for you guys today!
I MO'd yesterday.. Twice!
(with no porn of course)

I decided to make some big changes in my reboot regime.
For starters, I changed my counter.
I'm counting now the days I haven't watched porn (from way back in March), and I'm going to continue masturbating.
I'll tell you why, but let me start from the beginning.

Day 70 no P:
Yesterday's masturbation experiment was unbelievable.
It felt like the first time I ever tried masturbation back in elementary school,
except this time there was no fear, no guilt, and I knew exactly what to do.
I came in about 30 seconds or less with no sexual imagination... I seriously didn't even need one.
The O would have been super intense.. if there was no pain.

The pain.
My semen looked really wrong. It was lumpy, brownish, and there was a little bit of pain.
I researched the net and found out that the brownish coloration and thickness is a result of dead sperms.
Apparently, viscous dead sperms get collected in the balls if you don't release often enough
(I'm guessing this is what leads to "blue balls" symptoms).
So I decided to jack it off again at night, which still produced brownish semen.

So here's the conclusion of my masturbation experiment:
First off, my unwiring has been very successful, seeing that I don't even need the slightest sexual thought to reach O.
Secondly, I found out that frequent release is actually required for good health at this point.
Lastly, It looks like I'm gonna pre-ejaculate so bad with an actual girl, so I better start training.

(I failed to observe the intensity of the Chaser Effect. I will try to do this in the near future)

I feel like my understanding of this reboot has increased significantly after the experiment.
I'm really satisfied with the results and it really made my day.
I hope you guys are having an awesome day as well!

 

[SETI]

Good doing man! I also think "release" is good. I also think "not very often" should be in that statement somewhere...

 

[dwenjang1218]

Good doing man! I also think "release" is good. I also think "not very often" should be in that statement somewhere...

Thanks SETI,
but I kinda disagree.
I think anywhere between 0.5~4 times/week would be fine,
given that one has successfully unwired porn from masturbation.
Especially for people who can't resort to natural methods of release,
such as sex or wet dreams (personally, neither is available to me).

Having said that, I think people without girlfriends/boyfriends
should approach reboot in a different angle
than those with gfs/bfs.

 

[SETI]

Good doing man! I also think "release" is good. I also think "not very often" should be in that statement somewhere...

Thanks SETI,
but I kinda disagree.
I think anywhere between 0.5~4 times/week would be fine,
given that one has successfully unwired porn from masturbation.
Especially for people who can't resort to natural methods of release,
such as sex or wet dreams (personally, neither is available to me).

Having said that, I think people without girlfriends/boyfriends
should approach reboot in a different angle
than those with gfs/bfs.

What was the aim of your reboot? What was wrong that made you want to do it in the first place? Just curious. Sorry if you wrote it somewhere else in you journal.

 

[jkkk]

Having said that, I think people without girlfriends/boyfriends
should approach reboot in a different angle
than those with gfs/bfs.

Hey V,

I agree. Myself, I am married now and I have been with my wife for 5 years now. And I can see that there are certain issues where I have other problems than people rebooting who are single or in relationships that are not yet permanent. For me e.g. the part of the reboot where you get really interested in women in general (whether they are your wife or not) is not really a good deal - it does not help with bonding with my wife. So I envy a bit those guys, who can use their improved confidence to get out and meet some girls. On the other hand - the grass is always greener on the other side. I can and should use my new confidence in the relationship with my wife. The other issue is that for years I have suffered from objectifying women - so my approach to women in real life may be tainted anyway, unfortunately.

 

[dwenjang1218]

What was the aim of your reboot? What was wrong that made you want to do it in the first place? Just curious. Sorry if you wrote it somewhere else in you journal.

I didn't have a super heavy addiction, so nothing was "wrong."
(started porn about 8~9 years ago, didn't let myself develop weird fetishes, barely had any ED,
MO'd about 5~6 times/week, long MO sessions)
My aim was to acquire the "superpowers" others claimed to get after reboot,
such as more social life, more confidence, less brain fog, more attraction to girls, etc.

 

[dwenjang1218]

For me e.g. the part of the reboot where you get really interested in women in general (whether they are your wife or not) is not really a good deal - it does not help with bonding with my wife.

Hey jkkk, that's something I never thought about before.
I now have a new appreciation for my power of confidence that I acquired from reboot 
I should definitely go pick up girls while I can lol

 

[Shaft]

Happy with your improvements. Regarding the whole MO thing, do what you feel is right, but I would honestly suggest doing it no more often than once a week. Masturbation even when done without any artificial stimulation is nothing more but self pleasuring activity and teaches you to put all the focus you have on yourself, so it doesn't help you in terms of learning how to focus on the real life partner. No to mention, the feeling of constant relief without a need for a real partner.

And btw. I experienced ED for the first times I was having sex, that was zero porn influences. It was a bit influenced by anxiety, but mostly it was due to the fact that my Mr. Happy was used to my right hand and didn't know how to respond to a woman.

Good luck!

 

[jkkk]

For me e.g. the part of the reboot where you get really interested in women in general (whether they are your wife or not) is not really a good deal - it does not help with bonding with my wife.

Hey jkkk, that's something I never thought about before.
I now have a new appreciation for my power of confidence that I acquired from reboot 
I should definitely go pick up girls while I can lol

...yes! You should. (if you feel like it )

 

[SETI]

What was the aim of your reboot? What was wrong that made you want to do it in the first place? Just curious. Sorry if you wrote it somewhere else in you journal.

I didn't have a super heavy addiction, so nothing was "wrong."
(started porn about 8~9 years ago, didn't let myself develop weird fetishes, barely had any ED,
MO'd about 5~6 times/week, long MO sessions)
My aim was to acquire the "superpowers" others claimed to get after reboot,
such as more social life, more confidence, less brain fog, more attraction to girls, etc.

Thanks for the reply. Thats clears up your reasoning in my head anyways!

 

[dwenjang1218]

And btw. I experienced ED for the first times I was having sex, that was zero porn influences. It was a bit influenced by anxiety, but mostly it was due to the fact that my Mr. Happy was used to my right hand and didn't know how to respond to a woman.

Thanks for sharing this with me Shaft!
I'm a virgin so I didn't know this could happen.

Your point is that if you masturbate too much,
your brain gets wired so that you can get hard to your own hands, but not to real girls, right?
But isn't that what the whole re-wiring part is all about?
What I mean is, how would not masturbating help my brain get wired to get erection during real sex?
The frequency of masturbation won't change the fact that sex is going to be a completely new experience for my brain.
Wouldn't I go through the same experience in bed whether or not I masturbate?

I would love to hear what you and the others think about this.

 

[SETI]

Your point is that if you masturbate too much,
your brain gets wired so that you can get hard to your own hands, but not to real girls, right?
But isn't that what the whole re-wiring part is all about?
What I mean is, how would not masturbating help my brain get wired to get erection during real sex?
The frequency of masturbation won't change the fact that sex is going to be a completely new experience for my brain.
Wouldn't I go through the same experience in bed whether or not I masturbate?

I would love to hear what you and the others think about this.

Well, there is only one way to find out. I think most guys first time at sex isn't very "good". We come too fast or don't get hard enough or whatever, but that is all part of the process. If there is a problem, you can deal with it. If there isn't. Happy times

 

[dwenjang1218]

Well, there is only one way to find out. I think most guys first time at sex isn't very "good". We come too fast or don't get hard enough or whatever, but that is all part of the process. If there is a problem, you can deal with it. If there isn't. Happy times

Yeah, I think I'll probably come too fast on my first try.